Tender's megathread on crime in Austria

[Tender Branson]

Not to mention that the Austrian Railway is a deeply red (= Social Democratic) institution.

A desperate security situation calls for desperate measures I guess ...

[DavidB.]

real WiFi leeches

Not sure if serious. And cutting off the WiFi is now a "desperate measure"?

Anyway, RIP McDonald's.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Tender Branson, please see a psychiatrist about your rampant sexual insecurity.

[Tender Branson]

Tender Branson, please see a psychiatrist about your rampant sexual insecurity.

Stop playing Sigmund Freud.

[ApatheticAustrian]

this is obviously not "leeching" ... i think every modern big city should set up free wifi.... otherwise i am okay with that.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Tender Branson, please see a psychiatrist about your rampant sexual insecurity.

Stop playing Sigmund Freud.

I'll do that moment you create several threads attacking Austrians for sexual assault or accuse them of being leaches for one reason or another.

[ApatheticAustrian]

tender is not wrong, it just feels a little bit like the typical rural-city divide.

[Tender Branson]

Tender Branson, please see a psychiatrist about your rampant sexual insecurity.

Stop playing Sigmund Freud.

I'll do that moment you create several threads attacking Austrians for sexual assault or accuse them of being leaches for one reason or another.

I attack Austrians for sexual assault (or other serious crimes), if these rare cases pop up ...

But currently, migrant crime is much more prevalent and especially comitted at rates much higher than what their share is in the population. So, I'll focus on this instead.

Besides, I have never heard of groups of Austrians rotting themselves together at a train station to deal with drugs, rape women or stab someone to death ...

Also, your classification of me having a "rampant sexual insecurity" is not only wrong but also has nothing to do with this topic. Try again ...

[ApatheticAustrian]

ofc austrians also deal with drugs....but they are doing it in more sophisticated and less "visible" ways.

[Hnv1]

Are you a member of the Grün party ? If they are anything like their counterparts in Germany then I find your political alignment strange

[ApatheticAustrian]

Are you a member of the Grün party ? If they are anything like their counterparts in Germany then I find your political alignment strange

there is a big difference between the city green party and the rural green parties.

and like in germany, the green party also is strong in areas who have been historially hard for social democrats.

[parochial boy]

They come over here, they steal our Wifi...

[Famous Mortimer]

Yep. People will say this isn't a big deal but it is actually making life worse for people in a small way and it's part of what will undoubtedly become a larger trend.

Because of third world immigration and homelessness (two problems that are very much connected), New York City lacks a lot of amenities that other cities have. Public bathrooms had to be closed. Not as many businesses offer wifi. Public parks close at night. Supermarkets close at 8 or 9pm because they can't afford to pay people due to high rents.

[Zioneer]

Oh look, it's another Tender Branson thread whining about migrants/refugees! Who could have guessed?!?

[Alex]

Oh look, it's another Tender Branson thread whining about migrants/refugees! And Xenophobe Morty standing by him! Who could have guessed?!?

[Devout Centrist]

Go jack off and take a break, Xenophobic Freud.

Leeching off wifi?! Man people get angry over anything these days.

[GlobeSoc]

When there is an underclass abusing the amenities that a city offers, of course the quality of life gets worse.

[Tender Branson]

8 of the 9 were sentenced to 9-13 years in prison.

One was aquitted because of credible doubts.

The Interior Ministry is now checking if they can be deported to Iraq ...

[Tender Branson]

Important to note also that both the judge and the state prosecutor who charged them were women ...

[Tender Branson]

Trump on Twitter: "Did you know what happened in Austria today ?"

[Simfan34]

Yep. People will say this isn't a big deal but it is actually making life worse for people in a small way and it's part of what will undoubtedly become a larger trend.

Because of third world immigration and homelessness (two problems that are very much connected), New York City lacks a lot of amenities that other cities have. Public bathrooms had to be closed. Not as many businesses offer wifi. Public parks close at night. Supermarkets close at 8 or 9pm because they can't afford to pay people due to high rents.

Clearly you're familiar with a different New York City than I. First off, the case for linking "third world immigration" (see also: my post responding to CountryClassSF on AAD) with homelessness is extremely tenuous, to put it mildly. A majority of the homeless in NYC are black (i.e.: not immigrants), and an overwhelming majority street homeless. The proportion of Hispanics is broadly in line with their share of the overall city population.

Obviously, there's a homeless problem, and it's been getting worse in recent years. If you were acquainted with the actual New York, you'd know about those kiosks they put up last year at which the homeless setting up camp and watching porn until they blocked the websites, and now they've basically been disabling them except for emergency use. The street homeless seem to be getting more aggressive, and while it's still not as bad as San Francisco, it's likely "progressive" interests will continue to work against enforcement of existing laws. Again, this doesn't have much to do with migration!

But what really struck was the claim that groceries close at 8-9pm (!), which bears no relation to my experience; the two groceries nearest to me are open 24/7 and others are open until 10-12. I also don't get what high commercial rents have to do with homelessness.

[Meclazine]

The Australian gang rapes are on the news again:

https://www.9now.com.au/a-current-affair/2017/clip-cizxwfdkh006e0ht6fj357jby

One girl was raped 44 times in 4 hours by 14 men.

It was essentially "organised rape" by muslim men who targeted white girls:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_gang_rapes

[Lach]

You're using A Current Affair as a reliable source? I'm not so sure that's a good idea.

[Meclazine]

You're using A Current Affair as a reliable source? I'm not so sure that's a good idea.

Don't you step on Tracy Grimshaw's toes. She is my favourite lesbian residing from God's country.

[Tender Branson]

84-page report:

http://www.bmi.gv.at/cms/cs03documentsbmi/1983.pdf

I will post the main findings about the report and especially about the migrant-crime-related parts in the evening when I have some time ...