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Tender Branson
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« Reply #175 on: December 13, 2018, 01:16:59 PM »

A wealthy aristocrat/count, who owned a big mansion/castle in Lower Austria, a winery and a horse/polo club - shot and killed 3 family members (his father, brother and step-mother) today with a hunting rifle.

https://www.krone.at/1826117

Apparently, there was a dispute about money ...
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« Reply #176 on: December 16, 2018, 02:30:17 AM »

A 17 year old Afghan so-called „refugee“ has stabbed his 16 year old Austrian girlfriend to death in her room at her home today:

https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/16-Jaehrige-getoetet-Taeter-fluechtete-nach-Wien/359349578

The Afghan bastard, who fled to Vienna, was captured today ...

Turns out that the Afghan killer once posed in an Afghan military uniform (picture was taken when he already had "refugee" status in Austria) and showing the so-called "ISIS-finger":



He also says the murder of the 16-year old Austrian girl was an "accident" and that she "fell into his knife" ...

https://www.krone.at/1827181
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« Reply #177 on: December 21, 2018, 10:15:29 AM »
« Edited: January 28, 2019, 12:55:56 PM by Kalwejt »

1 person shot dead and 1 seriously wounded in a shooting outside a Schnitzel restaurant in Vienna:

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Tender Branson
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« Reply #178 on: December 21, 2018, 11:01:12 AM »

Those shot dead and wounded today and most likely the killer too were from the Serb/Montenegrin mafia.

Maybe Omega21 can do the translating ...

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/hronika/aktuelno.291.html:767413-NOVOSTI-SAZNAJU-Ubijeni-Vlada-Roganovic-i-Stefan-Vilotijevic
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #179 on: December 21, 2018, 12:55:04 PM »

Those shot dead and wounded today and most likely the killer too were from the Serb/Montenegrin mafia.

Maybe Omega21 can do the translating ...

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/hronika/aktuelno.291.html:767413-NOVOSTI-SAZNAJU-Ubijeni-Vlada-Roganovic-i-Stefan-Vilotijevic


Vlada Roganović and Stefan Vilotijević killed

In a shooting in the centre of Vienna at 13:30, Vladimir Roganović (31) from Herceg Novog (MNE) was killed. He was regarded as a member of the "infamous" "kavač" clan from Montenegro.

"According to our information, this "tough guy" was eliminated along with another member of the previously mentioned organization."

The second victim is "Stefan Vilotijević" from Nikšić.

Both were shot in the head.

It is also being reported that those involved in the shooting yelled "Brate brate", which is something that is commonly heard around Serbia and Montenegro, and would be similar to "Mate" in GB, although the exact meaning is "Brother".

So, seems like a few sh**theads taking their sh**t out on the streets, can't they just kill each other somewhere where there are no people around...

Anyway, hope they get arrested, given 40-year sentences, and deported if possible.

Thanks.

Yeah, maybe not "mafia" as I wrote, but intra-clan-fights.

BTW: there are no 40-year sentences in Austria. In this case, clan/gang-members killing each other, the killer will get a life-sentence - which means an average of 20-25 years in prison. Theoretically, a killer sentenced to "life" can apply for release after 15 years in prison, but that basically never gets granted. If the killer has a psychological abnormality (which probably is not the case here), that killer will then be put into followup imprisonment in a closed psychological prison ward after serving the 20+ year "life sentence" and can only be released if he gets psychological clearance from some psychiatrists. There have been some cases though where psychiatrists have "cleared" killers and they were released into the public because of their positive assessment, only to kill again after a short period ...
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #180 on: December 22, 2018, 07:42:20 AM »

Those shot dead and wounded today and most likely the killer too were from the Serb/Montenegrin mafia.

Maybe Omega21 can do the translating ...

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/hronika/aktuelno.291.html:767413-NOVOSTI-SAZNAJU-Ubijeni-Vlada-Roganovic-i-Stefan-Vilotijevic


Vlada Roganović and Stefan Vilotijević killed

In a shooting in the centre of Vienna at 13:30, Vladimir Roganović (31) from Herceg Novog (MNE) was killed. He was regarded as a member of the "infamous" "kavač" clan from Montenegro.

"According to our information, this "tough guy" was eliminated along with another member of the previously mentioned organization."

The second victim is "Stefan Vilotijević" from Nikšić.

Both were shot in the head.

It is also being reported that those involved in the shooting yelled "Brate brate", which is something that is commonly heard around Serbia and Montenegro, and would be similar to "Mate" in GB, although the exact meaning is "Brother".

So, seems like a few sh**theads taking their sh**t out on the streets, can't they just kill each other somewhere where there are no people around...

Anyway, hope they get arrested, given 40-year sentences, and deported if possible.

Turns out that the killed guy, Vladimir Roganović, was only released from a Belgrade prison 3 weeks ago where he served a sentence for a bomb attack. His brother and uncle were also killed a few years ago, when they started a car which had bombs planted inside.

The clans (operating in Serbia, Montenegro and Bosnia) have a history of violence because of drug dealing/smuggling and the above-mentioned bomb attacks.

While the Montenegrin media says that the 2nd person, Stefan Vilotijević, is now dead as well - the hospital in Vienna cannot confirm this.
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #181 on: December 23, 2018, 12:19:54 PM »

Those shot dead and wounded today and most likely the killer too were from the Serb/Montenegrin mafia.

Maybe Omega21 can do the translating ...

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/hronika/aktuelno.291.html:767413-NOVOSTI-SAZNAJU-Ubijeni-Vlada-Roganovic-i-Stefan-Vilotijevic


Vlada Roganović and Stefan Vilotijević killed

In a shooting in the centre of Vienna at 13:30, Vladimir Roganović (31) from Herceg Novog (MNE) was killed. He was regarded as a member of the "infamous" "kavač" clan from Montenegro.

"According to our information, this "tough guy" was eliminated along with another member of the previously mentioned organization."

The second victim is "Stefan Vilotijević" from Nikšić.

Both were shot in the head.

It is also being reported that those involved in the shooting yelled "Brate brate", which is something that is commonly heard around Serbia and Montenegro, and would be similar to "Mate" in GB, although the exact meaning is "Brother".

So, seems like a few sh**theads taking their sh**t out on the streets, can't they just kill each other somewhere where there are no people around...

Anyway, hope they get arrested, given 40-year sentences, and deported if possible.

Thanks.

Yeah, maybe not "mafia" as I wrote, but intra-clan-fights.

But what does clan mean in this context if it's not just a mafia family? How old are these clans?

Some of them started a bit before the collapse of Yugoslavia, and some of them during and just after it.

In 2002/3, the situation in Serbia was hopeless. The "Zemun clan" (Zemun is a part of Belgrade) even participated in the murder of Prime Minister Zoran Đinđić.

Even the Deputy State Prosecutor of Serbia was on their payroll.

That triggered the biggest police operation in Serbia, to date, with 11,000 people being arrested, including members of various government branches.

After the operation, revenue for all malls in Belgrade dropped by 20%, which is a testament as to how much money these people had.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zemun_Clan

These 2 were not part of that clan, but a smaller Montenegro clan, but they still operate in mainly the same way.

Yeah, they were part of the Kavač clan, which is in a tough fight with the Skaljarski clan.

Apparently, the battle has originated from a 2014 coup, in which one clan has stolen 200 kilograms of cocaine from the other clan in an apartment in Valencia, Spain.

Since then, they try to kill each other in Spain, in Montenegro, in Serbia, in Bosnia, in the Czech Republic and now in Austria as well.

Crips vs. Bloods - Balkan style ...
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #182 on: December 23, 2018, 12:52:48 PM »

Those shot dead and wounded today and most likely the killer too were from the Serb/Montenegrin mafia.

Maybe Omega21 can do the translating ...

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/hronika/aktuelno.291.html:767413-NOVOSTI-SAZNAJU-Ubijeni-Vlada-Roganovic-i-Stefan-Vilotijevic


Vlada Roganović and Stefan Vilotijević killed

In a shooting in the centre of Vienna at 13:30, Vladimir Roganović (31) from Herceg Novog (MNE) was killed. He was regarded as a member of the "infamous" "kavač" clan from Montenegro.

"According to our information, this "tough guy" was eliminated along with another member of the previously mentioned organization."

The second victim is "Stefan Vilotijević" from Nikšić.

Both were shot in the head.

It is also being reported that those involved in the shooting yelled "Brate brate", which is something that is commonly heard around Serbia and Montenegro, and would be similar to "Mate" in GB, although the exact meaning is "Brother".

So, seems like a few sh**theads taking their sh**t out on the streets, can't they just kill each other somewhere where there are no people around...

Anyway, hope they get arrested, given 40-year sentences, and deported if possible.

Thanks.

Yeah, maybe not "mafia" as I wrote, but intra-clan-fights.

But what does clan mean in this context if it's not just a mafia family? How old are these clans?

Some of them started a bit before the collapse of Yugoslavia, and some of them during and just after it.

In 2002/3, the situation in Serbia was hopeless. The "Zemun clan" (Zemun is a part of Belgrade) even participated in the murder of Prime Minister Zoran Đinđić.

Even the Deputy State Prosecutor of Serbia was on their payroll.

That triggered the biggest police operation in Serbia, to date, with 11,000 people being arrested, including members of various government branches.

After the operation, revenue for all malls in Belgrade dropped by 20%, which is a testament as to how much money these people had.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zemun_Clan

These 2 were not part of that clan, but a smaller Montenegro clan, but they still operate in mainly the same way.

Yeah, they were part of the Kavač clan, which is in a tough fight with the Skaljarski clan.

Apparently, the battle has originated from a 2014 coup, in which one clan has stolen 200 kilograms of cocaine from the other clan in an apartment in Valencia, Spain.

Since then, they try to kill each other in Spain, in Montenegro, in Serbia, in Bosnia, in the Czech Republic and now in Austria as well.

Crips vs. Bloods - Balkan style ...

Yeah, that's about right lol

I really hope they get deported, since Serbia has 40-year sentences, and the guy who killed the Prime minister got 130+, which is a lot worse than the 20ish years they will get here.

The Austrian BMI is working closely together with the Serb and Montenegrin officials, so yeah, they might get extradited ... assuming the killer(s) are still in Austria and not somewhere else already.
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #183 on: December 23, 2018, 01:10:08 PM »
« Edited: December 23, 2018, 01:13:34 PM by Tender Branson »

Those shot dead and wounded today and most likely the killer too were from the Serb/Montenegrin mafia.

Maybe Omega21 can do the translating ...

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/hronika/aktuelno.291.html:767413-NOVOSTI-SAZNAJU-Ubijeni-Vlada-Roganovic-i-Stefan-Vilotijevic


Vlada Roganović and Stefan Vilotijević killed

In a shooting in the centre of Vienna at 13:30, Vladimir Roganović (31) from Herceg Novog (MNE) was killed. He was regarded as a member of the "infamous" "kavač" clan from Montenegro.

"According to our information, this "tough guy" was eliminated along with another member of the previously mentioned organization."

The second victim is "Stefan Vilotijević" from Nikšić.

Both were shot in the head.

It is also being reported that those involved in the shooting yelled "Brate brate", which is something that is commonly heard around Serbia and Montenegro, and would be similar to "Mate" in GB, although the exact meaning is "Brother".

So, seems like a few sh**theads taking their sh**t out on the streets, can't they just kill each other somewhere where there are no people around...

Anyway, hope they get arrested, given 40-year sentences, and deported if possible.

Thanks.

Yeah, maybe not "mafia" as I wrote, but intra-clan-fights.

But what does clan mean in this context if it's not just a mafia family? How old are these clans?

Some of them started a bit before the collapse of Yugoslavia, and some of them during and just after it.

In 2002/3, the situation in Serbia was hopeless. The "Zemun clan" (Zemun is a part of Belgrade) even participated in the murder of Prime Minister Zoran Đinđić.

Even the Deputy State Prosecutor of Serbia was on their payroll.

That triggered the biggest police operation in Serbia, to date, with 11,000 people being arrested, including members of various government branches.

After the operation, revenue for all malls in Belgrade dropped by 20%, which is a testament as to how much money these people had.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zemun_Clan

These 2 were not part of that clan, but a smaller Montenegro clan, but they still operate in mainly the same way.

Yeah, they were part of the Kavač clan, which is in a tough fight with the Skaljarski clan.

Apparently, the battle has originated from a 2014 coup, in which one clan has stolen 200 kilograms of cocaine from the other clan in an apartment in Valencia, Spain.

Since then, they try to kill each other in Spain, in Montenegro, in Serbia, in Bosnia, in the Czech Republic and now in Austria as well.

Crips vs. Bloods - Balkan style ...

Yeah, that's about right lol

I really hope they get deported, since Serbia has 40-year sentences, and the guy who killed the Prime minister got 130+, which is a lot worse than the 20ish years they will get here.

The Austrian BMI is working closely together with the Serb and Montenegrin officials, so yeah, they might get extradited ... assuming the killer(s) are still in Austria and not somewhere else already.


As long as they are in the EU, I assume they will be extradited.

If they managed to go back to Montenegro, it will probably be tougher, because their money has more influence there and they can stay under the radar.

Fun fact:

One of them is a cousin to the Balkan singer Dara Bubamara, or so they say at least.

Yeah, would be good if the killer could serve the 40 years in Serbia instead of the 20 years here.

We already have enough Afghan, Syrian etc. rapists and killers crowding our prisons, so no need to feed through additional Serb mafia killers with my tax €s ...

On this case, I can point to a new initiative by ÖVP-FPÖ, in which they want to increase extraditions of foreign criminals in Austria to their native countries, where they can serve their prison time instead of burdening the Austrian taxpayers.

https://www.heute.at/politik/news/story/Straftaeter-sollen-Haft-in-der-Heimat-verbue-en-49556427
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #184 on: December 24, 2018, 09:05:38 AM »

An Austro-Indian has killed his wife yesterday evening in Vienna, by strangling her and then drowning her to death in the bathtub:

https://kurier.at/chronik/wien/ehefrau-in-wien-kurz-vor-weihnachten-in-badenwanne-ertraenkt/400361975

He then cut her wrists to make it look like a suicide, but police quickly noticed that he only staged it. He quickly confessed to the murder.
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« Reply #185 on: December 26, 2018, 05:08:43 AM »

A 37-year old Syrian asylum seeker has killed his 23-year old wife tonight:

https://tirol.orf.at/news/stories/2955511
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #186 on: December 27, 2018, 07:21:48 AM »

A 20-year old local woman has been shot dead yesterday night here in Zell am See in her own home by an unknown perpetrator ... Sad

SWAT teams are currently searching for the suspect. The motive is also unknown (even though the tabloid "Ö24" speculates about a drug connection).

https://salzburg.orf.at/news/stories/2942813

https://www.krone.at/1793244

https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/20-Jaehrige-in-Wohnhaus-erschossen/353035905

The crime scene is not far away from my apartment, like a mile or so.

A 17-year old from Zell am See district was arrested yesterday as the likely perpetrator.

Apparently, the gun used in the crime was also found.

https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/Mord-an-Irene-P-17-Jaehriger-verhaftet/361395772

Good.
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #187 on: December 27, 2018, 10:31:57 AM »

A 20-year old local woman has been shot dead yesterday night here in Zell am See in her own home by an unknown perpetrator ... Sad

SWAT teams are currently searching for the suspect. The motive is also unknown (even though the tabloid "Ö24" speculates about a drug connection).

https://salzburg.orf.at/news/stories/2942813

https://www.krone.at/1793244

https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/20-Jaehrige-in-Wohnhaus-erschossen/353035905

The crime scene is not far away from my apartment, like a mile or so.

A 17-year old from Zell am See district was arrested yesterday as the likely perpetrator.

Apparently, the gun used in the crime was also found.

https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/Mord-an-Irene-P-17-Jaehriger-verhaftet/361395772

Good.

The "Krone" reports that the 17-year old killer's motive was likely not drugs (even though he bought weed from her several times), but more the fact that he was an incel.
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #188 on: January 03, 2019, 10:50:33 AM »

Oh man ... another one of these disgusting cases where you can just Roll Eyes

https://kurier.at/chronik/wien/frau-bricht-grapscher-die-nase-afghane-bleibt-asylberechtigt/400367672

During New Year, a 21-year old Swiss woman visited Vienna's New Year Path to watch the fireworks there. After midnight, she was groped and sexually attacked by a 20-year old Afghan asylum seeker. When she fended him off, she broke his nose and he ran away. The Swiss woman filed a charge against him and police arrested him at the hospital.

Now the fu**ed-up thing:

Not only was the Afghan so-called "refugee" and wannabe-rapist arrested, but also the woman (for serious bodily injury) !

And even if the asylum seeker is charged and sentenced to prison, he probably cannot be deported back to Afghanistan.

What a scum and what a fu**ing disgrace of a system we have here ! I'd give these people a personal asskick out of the country, if they violate their host country and its people in such a gross manner.
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« Reply #189 on: January 08, 2019, 02:24:52 PM »

First murder of the year 2019:

A fundamentalist Muslim (a Turk) has killed his wife in front of their 4 children today, by slashing her throat. The fundie Muslim wanted to frequently convert neighbours to Islam and even talked small children there into it. His wife has converted to Islam, according to the report.

https://www.krone.at/1839484
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« Reply #190 on: January 14, 2019, 12:21:47 PM »

Murders #2 and #3 so far this year:

* A native Austrian gun nut killed his ex-wife by stabbing her to death. On Social Media he posed with guns and said he worked as a security employee, but actually was unemployed. He also tried to escape, but SWAT teams found and arrested him after a few hours.

https://www.heute.at/oesterreich/niederoesterreich/story/Mord--Cobra-konnte-Taeter-festnehmen-40982701

* Yesterday in Lower Austria, a Syrian so-called "refugee" named Yazan A. (19) killed his native Austrian girlfriend Manuela K. (16) by strangling her to death and then dumped her under a pile of leaves in a park near her home. He then tried to escape by hiding in Vienna, but police quickly got him and he already confessed to the murder.

https://www.heute.at/oesterreich/niederoesterreich/story/Mord-Park-Wiener-Neustadt-Yazar-A-legt-Gestaendnis-ab-Widerruf--50547270

All 3 murder victims so far were women, killed by their male partners.

All 3 murders so far happened in Lower Austria.
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« Reply #191 on: January 14, 2019, 12:37:47 PM »
« Edited: January 24, 2019, 01:52:54 PM by Kalwejt »

The sad thing with #3 is that the 19-year Syrian has already committed a crime last year against her (domestic violence), but sadly he wasn't stripped of his asylum status and immediately deported back to Syria. It would have prevented this murder of the 16-year old Austrian girl yesterday.

I repeat: If accepted refugees f**k their host countries in such a disgusting way or even commit small crimes, their asylum status needs to be revoked immediately, put into preventive deportation imprisonment and they need to be deported back to where they came from. ÖVP+FPÖ need to act and throw all criminal refugees out of the country now ! If they cannot behave, they have no place here !
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« Reply #192 on: January 15, 2019, 12:18:14 AM »

Murder #4 tonight:

A 25-year old woman was killed by a 21-year old man at Vienna‘s Main Train Station.

https://derstandard.at/2000096227312/25-jaehrige-Frau-am-Wiener-Hauptbahnhof-mit-Messer-getoetet
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« Reply #193 on: January 15, 2019, 12:11:46 PM »


The killer is a Spanish citizen and the victim his sister !

Very tragic background:

The killer, a Spanish citizen with Ethiopian origin, worked as a cook in Switzerland and Austria when he became a drug addict.

His 2 sisters, who lived in London, did fly to Vienna to talk with him and "rescue" him out of the drug scene. The older sister (33) had to watch her brother kill her younger sister ... Sad

  

https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/wien/25-Jaehrige-erstochen-Schwester-Killer-hatte-Liebeskummer/363836488

The FPÖ-led Interior Ministry has set up a task force today which will look into the increasing number of women being killed in Austria over the past year or so ...

About 70-90% of murder victims are women, which is abnormally high in an international context.

https://derstandard.at/2000096281586/Innenminister-Kickl-will-Gewalt-gegen-Frauen-besser-verhindern
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« Reply #194 on: January 21, 2019, 11:37:45 AM »

32-year old Macedonian woman killed by her 36-year old Macedonian husband today, who stabbed her to death in a parking lot of a supermarket.

https://derstandard.at/2000096760199/32-Jaehrige-nach-Stichen-in-den-Halsbereich-in-Tulln-gestorben

That's the 5th murder in 3 weeks.

All of the victims so far were women. 4/5 killers were foreigners. 4/5 murders took place in Lower Austria, 1 in Vienna.
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« Reply #195 on: January 21, 2019, 12:00:33 PM »
« Edited: January 24, 2019, 10:52:19 AM by Kalwejt »

1000 people came to a vigil in a small town in Lower Austria for the murdered 16-year old Austrian girl, who was killed by her boyfriend from Syria.

Today, another march is planned with more people to protest the recent wave of killings against women.



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« Reply #196 on: January 25, 2019, 10:53:48 AM »

Just discovered this thread, and oh my......

Tender is even more off his nut than I thought. Which is saying a lot.

He's posting about crime in Austria, and if the thread title is any indication, he's not being coy about it.  I understand the details might be a little embarassing to some political stripes, but that's ok, those people have a million things to be offended by (aren't the sheep still focused on a smirk and a hat?), this is just a blip.  Just drop by every few months to remind us that you're better and forget about it the rest of the time.  You'll need your energy for the next recrational outrage anyway.  I heard a black lesbian in a MAGA hat just got harassed inline at a CVS by a white lady while a bunch of Mountain Jews ran by eating bok choy and screaming about the gold standard.

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There is nothing wrong with posting about these things. And you can interpret what you want.

Fact is, these things need to be addressed and measures taken to prevent future such cases. The best way to do so is to deport (or not let into the country) the people who are responsible for 50% of the rape and murder cases here (you cannot deport the Austrians). If fewer of the culture-hostile people are coming and more of those that are already here are deported, a lot of women can be saved from being raped in the future and many people prevented from being killed.

That's quite a common-sense thing (even though I fully understand that you guys don't agree, because according to you it doesn't matter if some more people are being raped and killed).
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« Reply #197 on: January 25, 2019, 11:00:28 AM »

@ Old Europe:

Sad to hear the thing with the depression and anti-depressants. I hope you get well soon and I want to notice that it is nothing against you or any other personally, but more the naive, stubborn politically-correct ideology behind you guys that you think cannot be changed. It can and it is good that these developments are changed.

Also: I referred to 80-90% of murder victims being women here, this is correct. But is was more about the recent murders, where in fact 80-90% were women. In 2019 so far, there were 5 murders and all 5 were women. So, 100%. It doesn't really matter if it's 60%, 70%, 80%, 90% or 100%. We have a problem when more than 52% of murder victims are women.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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« Reply #198 on: January 25, 2019, 11:20:29 AM »

For instance, in my high school class was a group of boys who to put it bluntly were very much into racism. On one school trip, they convinced the driver of our bus to play some of their right-wing extremist music on the loudspeakers of the bus. The lyrics of one song was something along the lines of "Stab the Turk into his belly 20, 30, 40 times..." I remember that the bus driver happened to enjoy these songs very much. What I don't recall is an intervention by the accompanying teachers or any other noticable repercussions from or debate about that or similar incidents. Unfortunately, around the same time I happened to be frequent victim of bullying attacks from the same groups of boys. The worst incident I'm able to remember in that regard is to be spat upon by them for their entertainment. And going by some Facebook profiles I've seen in recent years many of these classmates seem to have grown into argent AfD voters nowadays. And I certainly wouldn't rule out that things got blended a bit in mind so that I started equating saying negative things about immigrants with being bullied or something.

Several depressions and a psychotherapy later the European refugee crisis of 2015 happened and I was working at a job where I quickly learned that refugee crisis must have been a welcome pretext for many people to finally act like the assholes they always wanted to be. Suddenly I found myself filing complaints with the police or being subpoenad as a court witness, mostly due to death threats we received. People started to describe in detail how they wanted to poke out the eyes and cut off the tongue and rape people who supported more liberal immigrations policies. Or that they intended to buy a Kalashnikov for the same reason. And this went on on almost a daily basis for more than a year. Fair to say that this experience changed me. I seem to recall that 10 or more years ago I tried to put a lot in emphasis on being the reasonable, moderate, consensus-oriented guy. It was sometime during 2016 that I simply stopped to care about such things. Now I often simply wanted to see the world burn.

As for why I recently returned to this forum.... to tell you the truth I was on sick leave until last week for worsening depression and insomnia and therefore I had not much to do at home. I'm on antidepressents again now (the last time was 2015-2017) so things are starting to get a bit better right now.

Disgusting. Those were literal Nazis and bullies. Sad that you had to go through this, but yeah, parts of East Germany were pretty bad in the 1990s, especially if you were a leftist.

Still, that has nothing to do with me because I'm more the "reasonable, moderate, consensus-oriented guy" that you talked about you were yourself some 10 years ago. Maybe, to get better, you need to get back to that state by accepting some restrictions to uncontrolled/unchecked immigration and all the negative results it brings ---
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Tender Branson
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Posts: 58,156
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #199 on: January 26, 2019, 10:49:42 AM »

6th murder in 4 weeks and another woman as victim:

"64-year old retired woman found dead in her apartment in Lower Austria."

https://derstandard.at/2000097069350/Pensionistin-tot-in-Wohnung-im-Bezirk-Bruck-an-der-Leitha

100% women as victims so far this year.
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