MD Senate race: Mfume leads Cardin, Van Hollen; Steele attracts strong support
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« on: April 18, 2005, 07:46:32 AM »

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal-te.md.senate18apr18,1,3440030.story?coll=bal-home-headlines

Steele attracts strong support in Senate race
Lieutenant governor neck and neck with three possible Democrats; Mfume leads Cardin, Van Hollen

By Andrew A. Green
Sun Staff
Originally published April 18, 2005
Former NAACP head Kweisi Mfume has the edge against the other prominent Democrats hoping to replace U.S. Sen. Paul S. Sarbanes, but Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele would run neck and neck against any of them in the 2006 election, the new Sun Poll shows.

Mfume - a former congressman - would have a narrow lead over Rep. Benjamin L. Cardin and a large edge over Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Montgomery County if the primary were held now.

But in a matchup against the Republican lieutenant governor, Cardin, who is popular among the suburban Baltimore voters crucial to statewide Republican candidates, would fare best, edging Steele by 4 points. Against the other two Democrats, Steele was in a statistical tie in the telephone poll conducted April 11-13.

"He's a political force to be reckoned with," said Keith Haller, president of Potomac Survey Research, which conducted the poll. "You're looking at him against the most-known Democratic leaders, and he's still going toe-to-toe against them at this point."

Mfume is the only major candidate who has formally declared for the state's first open U.S. Senate seat in two decades. Both Cardin and Van Hollen have made clear their serious interest in the seat, while fellow Democratic Rep. C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger announced last week that he will not run.

But the strong support for Steele illustrates the difficult decision he and the Maryland Republican Party face. Should Steele stick with Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. to provide the strongest possible ticket for re-election, or should he take a risk that could either land Republicans in two of the most powerful positions in the state or leave the party with neither?

"I think this seals the deal on Steele running. He'd be crazy not to run, and the national Republicans would be crazy not to do whatever it takes to get him to run," said Thomas F. Schaller, a political science professor from the University of Maryland, Baltimore County who has been active in Democratic causes.

"I'd be very wary," said Richard Vatz, a professor of political rhetoric at Towson University who admires Ehrlich and Steele. "I think there's a real chemistry to this team."

The poll sampled 1,000 likely voters and has a margin of error of 3.2 percentage points. Questions about the Democratic primary for Senate are based on a smaller sample and have a margin of error of 4.5 percentage points.

Steele spokeswoman Reagan Hopper said the lieutenant governor is considering the race very seriously but hasn't made a decision yet.

"He wants to make sure it's right for his family, right for the governor and right for the state of Maryland," she said.

The lieutenant governor, a 46-year-old attorney and former state party chairman, is coming off a year during which his profile has increased significantly inside and outside the state.

He had a prime-time speaking slot at the Republican National Convention and has stepped up his speaking engagements for the GOP around the nation. At the same time, he has toured the state on a mission from the governor to study Maryland's educational system as a precursor to reform efforts.

The poll found that 48 percent of likely voters view Steele favorably and just 16 percent negatively. That 32-point spread is larger than that for any other politician in the poll, including Ehrlich.

"I think that Steele needs to seize the opportunity. This is a golden opportunity for him, and he cannot let this go by," said GOP consultant Carol L. Hirschburg.

Although Steele is the first African-American to hold statewide elected office in Maryland and by far the most prominent black Republican in the state, his base of support is the same as that of Ehrlich and other members of his party who have run statewide.

Steele does well in Baltimore, Howard and Anne Arundel counties and in rural parts of the state, while faring more poorly in Baltimore City and the populous Washington suburbs, including his native Prince George's County.

He generally fares no better with African-Americans than does Ehrlich.

In a race against Mfume, the former head of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People would beat Steele among black voters by 66 points, the poll shows. Cardin, who is white, would beat Steele among blacks by 41 points.

But unlike Mfume, Steele, a political conservative, does well in the poll among whites and men, groups that typically trend more Republican.

"He is for a strong economy, and he is for managed growth," said Bill Stearn, 50, a Republican who lives in New Market in Frederick County.

"Having another black representative in the Senate would be a good thing," Stearn added.

Mfume, who polled at 32 percent in the primary matchup compared to 26 percent for Cardin and 16 percent for Van Hollen, has a strong base in the state's two majority African-American jurisdictions, Prince George's County and Baltimore.

Although he has been out of public office for nearly a decade, Mfume's years in Congress, time as head of the nation's most prominent civil rights organization and former career as a television host make his name just as well recognized statewide as Steele's.

"He has dealt with all sorts of things as head of the NAACP and with his television show, so I think he would be a real positive force in the Senate," said Mary Smith, 59, a Republican poll respondent from Ellicott City. "He has lived the life, so I think he is more in touch with the needs that some people might have."

Unlike Mfume and Van Hollen, Cardin has a strong base of support in the suburban Baltimore communities that were key to Ehrlich's victory and now make up the heart of Steele's base, the poll shows.

Cardin, who for years has represented a district that straddles the Baltimore City-Baltimore County line, has a 15-point lead in the poll against Steele in Baltimore County, a voter-rich jurisdiction where the lieutenant governor trounces the other Democratic candidates. Cardin also is competitive in the Steele-friendly jurisdictions of Anne Arundel and Howard counties, parts of which he also represents in Congress.

Julia Locke, 57, a custodian with the Howard County school system, said her community, Elkridge, has been well served by the congressman. "He has always paid attention to what people have to say," said Locke, a Democrat.

Of the three Democrats who have expressed the strongest interest in the race, the poll shows Van Hollen with the most difficult path to a seat in the U.S. Senate. He is the least-known of the three, and the poll shows he has little support outside the Washington suburbs.

In a matchup with Steele, he does much worse than the other Democrats among African-Americans and in Baltimore City, factors that would make it hard for him to win statewide.

But no matter how well Steele matches up in early polling against the Democrats, the lieutenant governor and the Republican Party would be taking a large risk if he got in the race, said Matthew Crenson, a Johns Hopkins University political science professor.

Steele is more conservative than Ehrlich on social issues, and that could pose a problem for him with Maryland voters, Crenson said.

"He's a likable figure, and he's been generally low-profile during this administration. He hasn't been called upon to be the bad guy," Crenson said. "But any Democrat who runs against him is going to try to smoke him out on abortion, stem cell research and gay rights, and he's going to be placed in a very awkward position."
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2005, 10:16:48 AM »
« Edited: April 18, 2005, 10:45:25 AM by nickshepDEM »

Steele is a staunch conservative.  He is not an opportunist like Ehrlich.    Once the voters know where he stands on the issues he'll drop like brick.  Still, Im suprised and impressed that he is polling this well. 

My "worry" meter has gone from 0 to 5 (out of 100).
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2005, 10:32:36 AM »

Here are the actual numbers...

Steele vs Mfume

Steele  41%
Mfume  43%
Undecided/Not sure  15%

Steele vs Van Hollen

Steele  41%
Van Hollen  37%
Undecided/Not sure  22%

Steele vs Cardin

Steele  37%
Cardin  41%
Undecided/Not sure  21%

Democratic Primary

Cardin  26%
Mfume  32%
Van Hollen  16%
Undecided/Not sure  24%

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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2005, 10:32:56 AM »
« Edited: April 18, 2005, 11:48:56 AM by Nation of Ulysses »

That's true. As for the possibility of Mfume winning the primary, I doubt Van Hollen will run, and almost all of his support would go to Cardin with him eliminated.

My predictions:

1-Cardin wins the primary with around 55%
2-Steele doesn't run
3-Cardin beats his joke opponent by at least 12 points. If Steele does run it'd be about 6 points, but still a solid victory for Cardin.
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2005, 11:33:56 AM »


Hmm...interesting that Mfume is drawing 43% when 2/3 of the voters hate him (as AuH20 claims).

Anyone found the favoribility ratings on this poll?
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2005, 11:40:05 AM »

That's true. As for the possibility of Mfume winning the primary, I doubt Van Hollen will run, and almost all of his support would go to Cardin with him eliminated.

My predictions:

1-Cardin wins the primary with around 55%
2-Steele doesn't win
3-Cardin beats his joke opponent by at least 12 points. If Steele does run it'd be about 6 points, but still a solid victory for Cardin.

I agree with BRTD here, if it's an Mfume vs. Cardin primary in a vs. Steele election.

My gut tells me though, that Steele is probably just waiting to see whether Cardin or Van Hollen announce that they're running.

If neither of them run (unlikely), he'll probably run.

If either Cardin or Van Hollen run, he probably will stay with Ehrlich, though he might think about running with Van Hollen, because of the fact that he might not cut into the Baltimore/Howard County area that Republicans have to win strongly in order to win statewide at this time.

If both Van Hollen and Cardin enter, he'll probably run as well, considering there might be a nasty primary and Mfume's chances of winning the primary go up significantly in that scenario.

Simply put, Maryland is like Tennessee in reverse.  Unless the Democrats get involved in a nasty primary fight and nominate the weakest candidate there (imo, Mfume) against Steele, a race that Steele could possibly win, the seat will stay Democrat.
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2005, 11:48:44 AM »

I should clarify #2, I meant Steele doesn't RUN. I'd still bet against him running, although I still say he can't beat Cardin. The fact that he's even trailing Mfume is also rather telling.

Also, Cardin has already announced. I expect Van Hollen will announce he's out in awhile, and then the Democratic machine will go forward to annoint Cardin as the nominee.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2005, 01:18:23 PM »

I like Chris Van Hollen, a lot, and I was thinking about supporting him in the priamry.  But now Im sorta' hoping he drops out and allows Cardin to take on Mfume.  I dont want a roller coaster primary followed by a brutal general election. 
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2005, 01:32:41 PM »

Discounting Steele might be a mistake, should Democrats do so (it's always bad to think anything other than your opponent is formidable).

There is a very real possibility of at least a divisive Democratic primary with just Cardin and Mfume, throwing Van Hollen in only makes that worse. Especially in an off-year, that could make a very substantial difference, since presumably Steele would cruise to the GOP nomination should he enter the race.

Against Cardin he is an obvious underdog, but arguably in better shape than anything Democrats will dredge up in Tennessee or Texas. And I wouldn't put too much stock in this poll either way, but I would like nothing better than to place bets in favor of Steele against Mfume. I could use some free money.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2005, 01:42:24 PM »

I like Chris Van Hollen, a lot, and I was thinking about supporting him in the priamry.  But now Im sorta' hoping he drops out and allows Cardin to take on Mfume.  I dont want a roller coaster primary followed by a brutal general election. 

Me too.  I like having Van Hollen as my Congressman, and don't want to see him give up his seat just to lose a primary.   I would enthusiastically support him for Senate in 2010.  Most of the influential Dems in Montgomery don't think it's his time yet either.
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2005, 02:54:40 PM »
« Edited: April 18, 2005, 02:58:32 PM by nickshepDEM »

Discounting Steele might be a mistake...

Don't get me wrong.  I am not discounting Steele.  In fact, if Steele can pull 18% of the Af-American vote like he did back in 2002 and hold the same percentage in the swing counties as 2002, he will win.  But against Cardin I think his numbers would drop significantly in just about every county and demographic.

Van Hollen should do the right thing and pull out.  Ben Cardin waited his turn.  Van Hollen should do the same.
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2005, 04:14:29 PM »

How much of Van Hollen's support would go to Cardin? If all of it does, it's 42-32 Cardin. If the polling continually shows Van Hollen to be in the bottom, I predict there will be a lot of pressure on him to drop out from the party establishment, who likely support Cardin.

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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2005, 06:22:38 PM »


In defense of Van Hollen here, the primary is still more than a year away, even if they move to the earier primary schedule.  There's no reason at this point why Van Hollen would even be recognized by voters outside his district, so 16% support is to be expected.  And I don't think his decision will affect Cardin's decision about whether to run.  So why not test the waters and see how much money and endorsements you can get?  I think Van Hollen would probably lose if he ran, but its way too earlier to draw that conclusion just from polls at this point.
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2005, 06:53:54 PM »


In defense of Van Hollen here, the primary is still more than a year away, even if they move to the earier primary schedule.  There's no reason at this point why Van Hollen would even be recognized by voters outside his district, so 16% support is to be expected.  And I don't think his decision will affect Cardin's decision about whether to run.  So why not test the waters and see how much money and endorsements you can get?  I think Van Hollen would probably lose if he ran, but its way too earlier to draw that conclusion just from polls at this point.

I don't know how well he could do even in the fundraising/endorsement phase. If the establishment (and the donors) truly feel that it is Cardin's turn, Van Hollen simply will not have the resources to compete with Cardin and Mfume.

On a side note, 2006 is building up to have possibly two clashes between the Baltimore section and DC suburbs section, and I have a feeling if the DC suburbs lose both fights (which, according to this poll, seems likely), they will be pretty upset.
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2005, 08:31:31 PM »


On a side note, 2006 is building up to have possibly two clashes between the Baltimore section and DC suburbs section, and I have a feeling if the DC suburbs lose both fights (which, according to this poll, seems likely), they will be pretty upset.

That is my biggest fear and the GOP's biggest wet dream.  If we have a brutal primary that clashes the DC suburbs and Baltimore City.  The loser will be less enthusiastic about the general election and possible come out in low numbers.  That would kill the Democrats 2006 considering both hold a ton of votes and are DEM-Strongholds.
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2005, 08:36:41 PM »


On a side note, 2006 is building up to have possibly two clashes between the Baltimore section and DC suburbs section, and I have a feeling if the DC suburbs lose both fights (which, according to this poll, seems likely), they will be pretty upset.

That is my biggest fear and the GOP's biggest wet dream.  If we have a brutal primary that clashes the DC suburbs and Baltimore City.  The loser will be less enthusiastic about the general election and possible come out in low numbers.  That would kill the Democrats 2006 considering both hold a ton of votes and are DEM-Strongholds.

I don't think Baltimore City really loses, I can't imagine a scenerio in which they really lose, with O'Malley, Mfume, and Cardin all failing to get their nominations. But if the DC suburbs don't get what they want, don't expect too serious GOTV drives, which could cost us the Governorship and scare the hell out us with the senate race.
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