FreedomHawk vs. Miles

[Dwarven Dragon]

My Map:

Red = Miles
Blue = FreedomHawk

[politicus]

Miles by a thousand country miles.

Why wouldn't Miles win Pennsylvania and Ohio?

[Goldwater]

Miles, although I think the map would look more like this:

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Freedomhawk gets McCain'd.

[Free Bird]

K why do I lose NC GA and FL?

[C r a b c a k e]

I can't see Hawk winning Connecticut - I believe he has made his feelings about his home state quite clear enough to not endear him to the states residents

Would be an interesting race though. I think Miles would clinch it, because he is moderate enough to grab those large Southern states like North Carolina.

However, I do get a sense that FH will get a better-than-average-Repug score in urban areas.

[Miles]

K why do I lose NC GA and FL?

Well, I grew up in NC and know the state pretty well

GA and FL would be close.

[SNJ1985]

I have a hard time believing that most of the South would vote for a LeVay-admiring, socially liberal atheist from Connecticut over a socially conservative economic populist from Louisiana.

I feel like this kind of election is what it would take for those states to return to their Southern Democratic roots.

[Mr. Smith]

Miles stands to be Dukakis'd because of his failure to stand with the liberals.

He loses the entire West Coast by only being Moderate-left economically in the name of taking the South back. And even then he doesn't get Texas because he is still seen as business hostile.

Since it seems to have left some gray areas: Freedom Hawk wins all of them except Iowa and West Virginia. Also I forgot to flip Arkansas.


...Seriously why Atlasia continuously forgets how far hated social conservatism is is beyond me. Democrats have won as they have in elections with great turnout because of social issues, knowing that Reaganomics and his buzzwords will murder any chances of New Deal populism.

[Free Bird]

I have a hard time believing that most of the South would vote for a LeVay-admiring, socially liberal atheist from Connecticut over a socially conservative economic populist from Louisiana.

I feel like this kind of election is what it would take for those states to return to their Southern Democratic roots.

You're not wrong at all

[Free Bird]

Miles stands to be Dukakis'd because of his failure to stand with the liberals.

He loses the entire West Coast by only being Moderate-left economically in the name of taking the South back. And even then he doesn't get Texas because he is still seen as business hostile.

Since it seems to have left some gray areas: Freedom Hawk wins all of them except Iowa and West Virginia. Also I forgot to flip Arkansas.


...Seriously why Atlasia continuously forgets how far hated social conservatism is is beyond me. Democrats have won as they have in elections with great turnout because of social issues, knowing that Reaganomics and his buzzwords will murder any chances of New Deal populism.

The atheist wins Utah...

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Why isn't Miles winning at least 40 states?

[Mr. Smith]

Utah is very pro-business too, and like Texas I think they'll literally refuse to vote Democrat. That was a tough one though

But remember, Gerald Ford did his best in Utah even though Carter should've been the best candidate for that.

[Boston Bread]

Some southern states are just too party-line to shift for Miles, but he'd bring them above Clinton levels. I believe Miles is pro-extraction? That would let him win MT, WV, KY if so.

[Brewer]

Miles stands to be Dukakis'd because of his failure to stand with the liberals.

He loses the entire West Coast by only being Moderate-left economically in the name of taking the South back. And even then he doesn't get Texas because he is still seen as business hostile.

Since it seems to have left some gray areas: Freedom Hawk wins all of them except Iowa and West Virginia. Also I forgot to flip Arkansas.


...Seriously why Atlasia continuously forgets how far hated social conservatism is is beyond me. Democrats have won as they have in elections with great turnout because of social issues, knowing that Reaganomics and his buzzwords will murder any chances of New Deal populism.

lol

[Tokugawa Sexgod Ieyasu]

Miles (sane, normal, not a terrible, et cetera).