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J.R. Brown
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« on: April 17, 2005, 07:12:53 PM »

I believe that complete abolishment of prayer in public schools is completely ridiculous. If a group of young people want to get together in a public setting and pray for something, I believe they may do so. I also believe that people should not be forced to pray at the beginning of the school day or at any extracurricular event to a God that they may or may not believe exists. In summary, I believe that forced prayer is never a good thing, especially on people of different faiths, at the same time prayer should not be completely prohibited. Prayer could maybe be considered as an extracurricular activity. Something that is voluntary and not required.

What is your opinion on this issue?
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2005, 07:14:03 PM »

I don't really have an opinion about school prayer, but it definitely isn't unconstitutional.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2005, 07:16:17 PM »

I don't really have an opinion about school prayer, but it definitely isn't unconstitutional.
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2005, 07:19:40 PM »

I have no problem with a moment of silence right before the pledge every morning.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2005, 07:26:49 PM »

I have no problem with a moment of silence right before the pledge every morning.
Agree, except that the Pledge should also be optional.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2005, 07:28:53 PM »

I have no problem with a moment of silence right before the pledge every morning.
Agree, except that the Pledge should also be optional.

It is.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2005, 07:30:08 PM »

I have no problem with a moment of silence right before the pledge every morning.

I would agree except I don't think the pledge should be said at all (and no, it makes no difference if "Under God" is included or not.)
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2005, 07:30:32 PM »

I believe that complete abolishment of prayer in public schools is completely ridiculous. If a group of young people want to get together in a public setting and pray for something, I believe they may do so. I also believe that people should not be forced to pray at the beginning of the school day or at any extracurricular event to a God that they may or may not believe exists. In summary, I believe that forced prayer is never a good thing, especially on people of different faiths, at the same time prayer should not be completely prohibited. Prayer could maybe be considered as an extracurricular activity. Something that is voluntary and not required.

What is your opinion on this issue?

Who's wanting to ban private prayer in schools?

At any rate, I'm perfectly fine with prayer in school as long as it's not organized prayer sponsored by a school employee.
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2005, 07:38:13 PM »

oppose.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2005, 07:41:11 PM »

Against it, but support the "moment of silence".
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J.R. Brown
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2005, 07:45:30 PM »

I believe that complete abolishment of prayer in public schools is completely ridiculous. If a group of young people want to get together in a public setting and pray for something, I believe they may do so. I also believe that people should not be forced to pray at the beginning of the school day or at any extracurricular event to a God that they may or may not believe exists. In summary, I believe that forced prayer is never a good thing, especially on people of different faiths, at the same time prayer should not be completely prohibited. Prayer could maybe be considered as an extracurricular activity. Something that is voluntary and not required.

What is your opinion on this issue?

Who's wanting to ban private prayer in schools?

At any rate, I'm perfectly fine with prayer in school as long as it's not organized prayer sponsored by a school employee.

There are a lot of school administrators and politicians out there who believe any prayer in school is against the separation a church and state and should not occur within public facilities. I also believe a lot of people percieve an opposition to organized school prayer in schools as an opposition to optional prayer and a condemnation of religion.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2005, 07:47:11 PM »

Against it, but support the "moment of silence".

why do we even need a moment of silence?
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2005, 08:04:25 PM »

Against it, but support the "moment of silence".

why do we even need a moment of silence?

Why do we even need public schools?
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2005, 08:05:34 PM »

I have no problem with a moment of silence right before the pledge every morning.
Agree, except that the Pledge should also be optional.

It is.

Yeah, just saying it should stay that way.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2005, 09:20:45 PM »

Against it, but support the "moment of silence".

why do we even need a moment of silence?

Why do we even need public schools?

Believe it or not, there are some people who have great potential and with a proper education, could use that potential for great things, who cannot afford private institutions.

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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2005, 09:23:27 PM »

Believe it or not, there are some people who have great potential and with a proper education, could use that potential for great things, who cannot afford private institutions.

Because if we eliminated public schools, private schools would cost the same amount of money. Roll Eyes

The market adjusts to changes.  If public schools were eliminated, private schools would just start up, buy the old public school buildings, and continue as normal.  It's just that they would have much more control over their operations.
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2005, 09:28:32 PM »
« Edited: April 17, 2005, 09:31:11 PM by J.R. Brown »

Believe it or not, there are some people who have great potential and with a proper education, could use that potential for great things, who cannot afford private institutions.

Because if we eliminated public schools, private schools would cost the same amount of money. Roll Eyes

The market adjusts to changes.  If public schools were eliminated, private schools would just start up, buy the old public school buildings, and continue as normal.  It's just that they would have much more control over their operations.

They would also have the right to be much more discriminate in who they choose to attend their schools. I'm also thinking of those people who are lower than the middle class.
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2005, 09:32:36 PM »

Believe it or not, there are some people who have great potential and with a proper education, could use that potential for great things, who cannot afford private institutions.

Because if we eliminated public schools, private schools would cost the same amount of money. Roll Eyes

The market adjusts to changes.  If public schools were eliminated, private schools would just start up, buy the old public school buildings, and continue as normal.  It's just that they would have much more control over their operations.

They would also have the right to be much more discriminate in who they choose to attend their schools. I'm also thinking of those people who are lower than the middle class.

So what, if a school discriminates, they just lose money. Discrimination is bad business.
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2005, 09:37:45 PM »

Believe it or not, there are some people who have great potential and with a proper education, could use that potential for great things, who cannot afford private institutions.

Because if we eliminated public schools, private schools would cost the same amount of money. Roll Eyes

The market adjusts to changes.  If public schools were eliminated, private schools would just start up, buy the old public school buildings, and continue as normal.  It's just that they would have much more control over their operations.

They would also have the right to be much more discriminate in who they choose to attend their schools. I'm also thinking of those people who are lower than the middle class.

So what, if a school discriminates, they just lose money. Discrimination is bad business.

I paid 37 dollars a year, when I was in high school, and even that can be expensive for some parents with 3-4 kids. I doubt private institutions would lower their prices to that extreme.
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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2005, 09:40:27 PM »

You're forgetting that everyone who pays taxes will have alot more in their pockets if we eliminate federal funding of education. College works out fine for people, and if they can't afford college, they get scholarships.
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2005, 09:57:14 PM »


You are not being very sympathetic to the people who don't have access to the working and lower class in this country. The tax cuts that Bush has put in place benefits the very rich first then works its way down. Most of the money saved by cutting the federal funding of education won't even reach the families who really need it. We need an education system in this county that rivals the private institutions or are even better, and that is attainable to anybody, no matter how economically advantaged or disadvantaged you may be.
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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2005, 10:08:30 PM »

My family got the same percent off our income taxes as everyone else who pays them. Obviously, the rich would get more total money back, because they are taxed more. Only fair.

The way to get that education utopia obviously is not throwing billions out the window. 

First, take all sports out of schools. Make local clubs the place to play sports, not schools. Make schools a place for learning, and only learning.

Second, establish two levels of schools. The first level is for the students who desire to learn and that take the oppurtunities given to them and run with them. The second is for those that cause trouble. Kick those that repeatedly act up out of the public school system entirely.

Third, give all control over money, teachers, curriculum, etc to local school boards. Establish minimum requirements and give the schools the money based on their student population.

I'll post the next few when I get the time.
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2005, 10:09:50 PM »

Against it, but support the "moment of silence".

why do we even need a moment of silence?

Because it doesn't hurt. Both sides are happy that way.
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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2005, 10:11:25 PM »

You're forgetting that everyone who pays taxes will have alot more in their pockets if we eliminate federal funding of education.

What about those who make so little that the reduction of taxes won't effect them?
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2005, 10:14:45 PM »

You're forgetting that everyone who pays taxes will have alot more in their pockets if we eliminate federal funding of education.

What about those who make so little that the reduction of taxes won't effect them?

read the next sentence
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