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pbrower2a
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Re: 2014 national exit poll on 2016 candidates
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November 07, 2014, 05:18:47 AM »
Who wins in 2016 will depend heavily on turnout. The turnout of 2014 was perfect for crypto-fascism which just won.
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pbrower2a
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Re: 2014 national exit poll on 2016 candidates
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November 11, 2014, 05:48:11 PM »
If the 2016 electorate looks like that of 2014, then the Democrats have no chance of even winning a Senate majority, let alone electing their Presidential nominee. The Democratic Party will have shown itself incapable of going beyond 47% support even in a good year, which means that the Koch family might as well ask the regent that they support step down and turn the White House into a royal palace.
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pbrower2a
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Re: 2014 national exit poll on 2016 candidates
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November 12, 2014, 01:24:14 PM »
Quote from: IceSpear on November 11, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 11, 2014, 05:48:11 PM
If the 2016 electorate looks like that of 2014, then the Democrats have no chance of even winning a Senate majority, let alone electing their Presidential nominee. The Democratic Party will have shown itself incapable of going beyond 47% support even in a good year, which means that the Koch family might as well ask the regent that they support step down and turn the White House into a royal palace.
It won't, so who cares? Presidential elections aren't 36% turnout affairs.
I certainly hope that you are right.
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pbrower2a
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Re: 2014 national exit poll on 2016 candidates
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November 12, 2014, 02:31:33 PM »
Quote from: King on November 12, 2014, 01:49:05 PM
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 12, 2014, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: IceSpear on November 11, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 11, 2014, 05:48:11 PM
If the 2016 electorate looks like that of 2014, then the Democrats have no chance of even winning a Senate majority, let alone electing their Presidential nominee. The Democratic Party will have shown itself incapable of going beyond 47% support even in a good year, which means that the Koch family might as well ask the regent that they support step down and turn the White House into a royal palace.
It won't, so who cares? Presidential elections aren't 36% turnout affairs.
I certainly hope that you are right.
In a scenario where only 36% of registered voters vote in 2016, the outcome of those elections will be the least of our problems.
The least of our problems would be whether we have a nominal republic under a Medici-style dynasty or a full-blown absolute monarchy. The only thing good about the Koch family is that they are great patrons of the arts.
I see nothing in their libertarian ideology contrary to turning people in economic distress into debt-bonded serfs lest those in distress die of hunger.
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pbrower2a
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Re: 2014 national exit poll on 2016 candidates
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November 16, 2014, 06:17:26 AM »
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 12, 2014, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: King on November 12, 2014, 01:49:05 PM
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 12, 2014, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: IceSpear on November 11, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 11, 2014, 05:48:11 PM
If the 2016 electorate looks like that of 2014, then the Democrats have no chance of even winning a Senate majority, let alone electing their Presidential nominee. The Democratic Party will have shown itself incapable of going beyond 47% support even in a good year, which means that the Koch family might as well ask the regent that they support step down and turn the White House into a royal palace.
It won't, so who cares? Presidential elections aren't 36% turnout affairs.
I certainly hope that you are right.
In a scenario where only 36% of registered voters vote in 2016, the outcome of those elections will be the least of our problems.
The least of our problems would be whether we have a nominal republic under a Medici-style dynasty or a full-blown absolute monarchy. The only thing good about the Koch family is that they are great patrons of the arts, for which the Medici family was well known -- a couple centuries after they lost power.
I see nothing in their libertarian ideology contrary to turning people in economic distress into debt-bonded serfs lest those in distress die of hunger.
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pbrower2a
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Re: 2014 national exit poll on 2016 candidates
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November 25, 2014, 11:01:34 PM »
Quote from: I Can't Believe It's Not Murder! on November 24, 2014, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 16, 2014, 06:17:26 AM
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 12, 2014, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: King on November 12, 2014, 01:49:05 PM
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 12, 2014, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: IceSpear on November 11, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 11, 2014, 05:48:11 PM
If the 2016 electorate looks like that of 2014, then the Democrats have no chance of even winning a Senate majority, let alone electing their Presidential nominee. The Democratic Party will have shown itself incapable of going beyond 47% support even in a good year, which means that the Koch family might as well ask the regent that they support step down and turn the White House into a royal palace.
It won't, so who cares? Presidential elections aren't 36% turnout affairs.
I certainly hope that you are right.
In a scenario where only 36% of registered voters vote in 2016, the outcome of those elections will be the least of our problems.
The least of our problems would be whether we have a nominal republic under a Medici-style dynasty or a full-blown absolute monarchy. The only thing good about the Koch family is that they are great patrons of the arts, for which the Medici family was well known -- a couple centuries after they lost power.
I see nothing in their libertarian ideology contrary to turning people in economic distress into debt-bonded serfs lest those in distress die of hunger.
Where do we go as a country from there?
At best, the inverse of what America was a century ago - the sort of place that people want to leave. Unfortunately for Americans around 2030 there will be no country to attract undereducated people with few skills as America was before World War I.
For Americans with some cognitive ability but no connection to the Master Class America would be the sort of place where Americans learn foreign languages with an eye to getting jobs in the tourist industry so that they might seduce a foreigner and get a better life.
The worst -- an Evil Empire -- maybe Imperial Russia with nukes.
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