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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2014, 03:11:37 PM »

Not going to dismiss PPP out of hand, but they do sometimes screw up (they had Akin running close to McCaskill for a while, for instance). I want to see confirmation.
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2014, 03:27:37 PM »

I always thought Malloy would win. If a blue-state Pub couldn't win in 2010, they ain't winning now.
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2014, 03:28:16 PM »

How does a state swing 10 points in one month? Not going to change my prediction yet, but this is something new.
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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2014, 04:18:58 PM »

How does a state swing 10 points in one month? Not going to change my prediction yet, but this is something new.

McMahon was leading in her races at times but eventually the Dem pulled away by October and won by double digits
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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2014, 04:25:30 PM »

Where are Visconti voters likely to go?
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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2014, 04:27:55 PM »

Where are Visconti voters likely to go?

They are Foley-heavy, Foley trails by 6 rather than 8 if Visconti is removed.
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« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2014, 05:27:47 PM »

Where are Visconti voters likely to go?

They are Foley-heavy, Foley trails by 6 rather than 8 if Visconti is removed.

RCP entered the Visconti-removed numbers, but it's strange to see Foley only gaining 2 if Visconti's 9 are taken out.
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« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2014, 05:30:13 PM »

Where are Visconti voters likely to go?

They are Foley-heavy, Foley trails by 6 rather than 8 if Visconti is removed.

RCP entered the Visconti-removed numbers, but it's strange to see Foley only gaining 2 if Visconti's 9 are taken out.

A third of them go undecided.
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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2014, 05:33:01 PM »

Great news!
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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2014, 05:36:20 PM »

Intelligent discussion, then Illini shows up and does the typical stuff.
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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2014, 05:42:16 PM »

Intelligent discussion, then Illini shows up and does the typical stuff.

Take a few points off for the (D) bias, I still trust PPP enough to confirm a Malloy lead.
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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2014, 07:39:40 PM »

Where are Visconti voters likely to go?

They are Foley-heavy, Foley trails by 6 rather than 8 if Visconti is removed.

RCP entered the Visconti-removed numbers, but it's strange to see Foley only gaining 2 if Visconti's 9 are taken out.

Who are the Foley and Visconti voters demographically, ideologically, etc.? Are the Visconti people libertarians, unhappy Democrats, what?
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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2014, 07:46:51 PM »

Too bad nobody besides YouCrap is gonna bother polling Connecticut to confirm or deny this.

Quinnipiac will likely poll its home state before the election.  I'd be shocked if they didn't.
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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2014, 07:47:14 PM »

Malloy will win. Likely D as from the beginning. Moving along...
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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2014, 07:56:33 PM »


Not for the allegedly unhappy CT voters who won't see any change ... States that become too partisan one way or the other ---> bad news, IMO.
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« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2014, 08:25:28 PM »

Most of the other polls have this closer.  This one is poppycock (or should I say, PoPPycock.)  PPP once again proves their partisan bias.
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« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2014, 08:51:07 PM »
« Edited: October 06, 2014, 09:44:57 PM by Invisible Obama »

PPP is labeled a gold standard when Republicans are leading, but it's back to being a hack firm when a Democrat is up. Interesting.
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« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2014, 08:54:49 PM »

Best   Poll   Ever

I liked McKinney, who lost to Foley in the Primary in August; but Republican voters insisted on staying with Greenwich moneybags Foley instead and now they are paying the price. McKinney would have kicked Malloy's ass.

We love moderate Republicans for Governor in this state, but the state party and its closed-primary voters have only themselves to blame for this.

Hopefully after Foley and that trashbag McMahon losing twice Nutmeggers will stop re-nominating losing candidates. 
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« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2014, 08:57:28 PM »

PPP is labeled a gold standard when Republicans are leading, but it's back to being a hack firm when a Democrat is up. Interesting.0

It's because it doesn't remotely line up with anything else. Essentially every poll of this race has showed Foley tied or ahead. The only exceptions are YouGov and Vox Populi, but even in those the Malloy lead was 1-2, not 8.
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« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2014, 08:58:29 PM »

Malloy will win. Likely D as from the beginning. Moving along...

This was at best a Tilt D during the times when Malloy was in the best shape (which is probably right now).
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« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2014, 09:00:26 PM »

PPP is labeled a gold standard when Republicans are leading, but it's back to being a hack firm when a Democrat is up. Interesting.0

It's because it doesn't remotely line up with anything else. Essentially every poll of this race has showed Foley tied or ahead. The only exceptions are YouGov and Vox Populi, but even in those the Malloy lead was 1-2, not 8.

There have not been any public polls in this state in a month aside from YouGov, which showed a tie. It is possible the race has moved since early September.
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« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2014, 09:35:00 PM »

PPP is labeled a gold standard when Republicans are leading, but it's back to being a hack firm when a Democrat is up. Interesting.0

It's because it doesn't remotely line up with anything else. Essentially every poll of this race has showed Foley tied or ahead. The only exceptions are YouGov and Vox Populi, but even in those the Malloy lead was 1-2, not 8.

WHAT OTHER POLLS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

The last non-Yougov poll in Connecticut was from Quinnipiac at the start of September and they have been a joke this cycle. This has been the only poll from a firm with a decent track record all cycle. Sorry if I trust gold standard PPP over Youcrap and Quinnijoke. 
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« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2014, 09:42:38 PM »

PPP is labeled a gold standard when Republicans are leading, but it's back to being a hack firm when a Democrat is up. Interesting.0

It's because it doesn't remotely line up with anything else. Essentially every poll of this race has showed Foley tied or ahead. The only exceptions are YouGov and Vox Populi, but even in those the Malloy lead was 1-2, not 8.

1. We haven't had any polls from here in a while.
2. Don't you remember McMahon in her races? Started off close/tied but both Dems pulled away in the last month and won by double digits. Of course the undecideds were going to break towards the Dems. It's the exact same thing that happened in Illinois.
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« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2014, 10:28:30 PM »


Not for the allegedly unhappy CT voters who won't see any change ... States that become too partisan one way or the other ---> bad news, IMO.

It's a good thing it is those same CT voters who will make this choice.

You people talk as if Quinn and Malloy are about to be forced on the voters against their will.
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« Reply #49 on: October 06, 2014, 11:08:03 PM »


Not for the allegedly unhappy CT voters who won't see any change ... States that become too partisan one way or the other ---> bad news, IMO.

It's a good thing it is those same CT voters who will make this choice.

You people talk as if Quinn and Malloy are about to be forced on the voters against their will.

No, more suggesting that a significant enough bloc of voters in reliably red or reliably blue states have gotten so caught up in national politics/RNC and DNC gimmick campaigning that they simply won't even vote for any member of the "other party," even if it's a well-qualified and moderate local candidate who they might have had no qualms with sending to DC or the governor's mansion even ten years ago.

And, at the end of the day, whether that's CT no longer voting for ANY Republican just because of their grievances with the national GOP or Alabama no longer voting for ANY Democrat just because of their grievances with the national Dems, I think it's sad and bad for politics.
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