WI-Gravis Marketing(REDO): Walker up 4 now

[ElectionsGuy]

Funny how its almost identical to the Marquette poll.

[ElectionsGuy]

Okay, we all already knew Gravis was trash before this, but now they're redoing polls when they don't get the results they want? They really should be excluded from the poll database. All they do is screw up the averages. Even RCP doesn't include them.

Unfortunately there are people here literally defending Gravis when they see the result they like.

[ElectionsGuy]

Who is defending Gravis? I think everyone agrees it's junk. But IMO any non-fraudulent poll that isn't a campaign's internal should be entered into the database.

Sounds about right, even if it is Gravis.

Gravis is consistently bad in a specific way.  If anything, this suggests Orman is ahead by more

This. Gravis is showing Hillary doing horribly in all of the four states they've polled to date; California, Connecticut, Nevada and Iowa. Gravis has had an extreme R bias all year long. So taking that into account, Orman should be up by 10% at least.

I mean, Gravis showing Hillary would do 14% worse than Obama in California? Come on! Give me a break.

Gravis is never overly favorable to Democrats, so this is good.

[ElectionsGuy]

Who is defending Gravis? I think everyone agrees it's junk. But IMO any non-fraudulent poll that isn't a campaign's internal should be entered into the database.

Sounds about right, even if it is Gravis.

Gravis is consistently bad in a specific way.  If anything, this suggests Orman is ahead by more

This. Gravis is showing Hillary doing horribly in all of the four states they've polled to date; California, Connecticut, Nevada and Iowa. Gravis has had an extreme R bias all year long. So taking that into account, Orman should be up by 10% at least.

I mean, Gravis showing Hillary would do 14% worse than Obama in California? Come on! Give me a break.

Gravis is never overly favorable to Democrats, so this is good.

I was not defending Gravis

Do you disagree that we can generally treat them as Republican internals?

Perhaps "defending" was the wrong word. But twisting it to fit your opinions? yes. As we've seen with the past 5+ polls, they are not wrong in a "certain way"