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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2005, 10:35:16 AM »

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!   apparently I'm the frustrated and impatient kind.  I got the following result:  "We cannot give you a score becuse you left some of them blank"

well, wtf?  of course I left some of them blank.  actually I left 6 and 17 blank.  I suppose I'm admitting my ignorance but I can't remember the answer to those two.  I guess I like to think I'm fairly well educated about the religions of the world, and I generally do well on standardized tests, so just assume my score would be somewhere between 330 and 400.  And if it's not, I'll argue with the grader till he/she gives me a score between 330 and 400 goddammit!
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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2005, 10:49:02 AM »

well, okay, I went back in and took my best shot

on #6 I'm putting the fourth choice, since I think that's reasonable.

on #17 it was much harder since I really don't believe any of the choices are technically correct are they?  jmfcst, a little help here.  Didn't Jesus get executed since he was preordained to be the Lamb of God, to die for the sins of Man?  If so, if I'm not remembering incorrectly, doesn't that make all those choices a little weird.  Was it the blasphemy?  Is that it?

Apparently I don't remember what I've read very well.  My score is 272. 

ouch.

#9 was pretty tough too.  I'm pretty sure he was gay in real life, but I assumed we're supposed to answer these mythologically.  Like the way you'd answer on a literature test when the teacher asks "Did Diana spring forth from her mother's womb fully armed and ready for battle?"  of course the answer is yes.  but there's always some smartass kid who says, "no that's just a fairy tale."  But on #9 it's a bit difficult since I can't remember what the mythology of Jesus sexual orientation was.  Was he gay in the scripture, or is that just some conclusion I drew?
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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2005, 11:01:06 AM »

 Okay, the Gospel according to St. Mark, Chapter 10, in verses 34 and 35 you'll find this:

"And the youth, looking upon him (Jesus), loved him and beseeched that he might remain with him. And going out of the tomb, they went into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days, Jesus instructed him and, at evening, the youth came to him wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God."


so #9 the correct answer is   Gay.

I'm going to try to look up #17 now.

hmmmm.  a cursory search blames on "the jews" in general.  let's see if we can find a scholarly source, i.e., the Bible.

Ah, Matthew 27:  Pilate's wife told him of a dream warning him against any dealings with Jesus, could have supposedly influenced his judgement.  Seems that "public nuissance" is the correct answer.   Hmmm.  but apparently the Acts of the Apostles talk about his followers being persecuted well after his death.  Maybe the Revolutionary thing is correct.

I must admit #17 stumps me.
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« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2005, 11:31:28 AM »

Okay, the Gospel according to St. Mark, Chapter 10, in verses 34 and 35 you'll find this:

"And the youth, looking upon him (Jesus), loved him and beseeched that he might remain with him. And going out of the tomb, they went into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days, Jesus instructed him and, at evening, the youth came to him wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God."

WTF?!?

From the Skeptic's Annotated Bible (the online Bible of choice for left-leaning Christians Smiley)

Mark 10:34-35
 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.  And James and John, the sons of Zebedee, come unto him, saying, Master, we would that thou shouldest do for us whatsoever we shall desire.
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« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2005, 11:44:50 AM »

They had a what kind of Jew are you test, so I took that.

You scored 15, on a scale of 0 to 66
 
You are a Haroseth Jew.
Like this Passover fruit and nut mixture, your Jewish identity can take any number of forms, each blending tradition and innovation. Your cultural and ethnic ties to Judaism are stronger than your religious ones. Your religiosity and Jewish identity often revolve around holidays, lifecycle events, and other special religious times are important to you. 
 
 
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« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2005, 04:37:52 PM »

Secular Christian or non-Christian
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« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2005, 06:11:46 PM »

You know the Romans used to feed christians to lions.  Did you know that?

Which only made martyrs, which resulted in a faster spread of Christianity.
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« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2005, 06:16:09 PM »

You know the Romans used to feed christians to lions.  Did you know that?

Which only made martyrs, which resulted in a faster spread of Christianity.

Definitely. If the Romans had simply ignored Christianity, it would have likely died out, or it would have been just a minor cult. But don't trouble Opebo with the facts...
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« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2005, 06:36:39 PM »

You know the Romans used to feed christians to lions.  Did you know that?

Which only made martyrs, which resulted in a faster spread of Christianity.

Well perhaps, but the point is that they understood what christianity was!  Very astute people the Romans.
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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2005, 06:41:24 PM »

You know the Romans used to feed christians to lions.  Did you know that?

Which only made martyrs, which resulted in a faster spread of Christianity.

Well perhaps, but the point is that they understood what christianity was!  Very astute people the Romans.

The Romans were in the pockets of the Jewish Leaders. They listened to their slander of Christianity and the Romans bought it. So the Romans were a tool of "Religous People."
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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2005, 06:45:34 PM »

You know the Romans used to feed christians to lions.  Did you know that?

Which only made martyrs, which resulted in a faster spread of Christianity.

Well perhaps, but the point is that they understood what christianity was!  Very astute people the Romans.

The Romans were in the pockets of the Jewish Leaders. They listened to their slander of Christianity and the Romans bought it. So the Romans were a tool of "Religous People."

Wow, I didn't know the Jews were actually powerful, and actually in a position to slander other religions (Not that I condone it).
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« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2005, 06:46:51 PM »

You know the Romans used to feed christians to lions.  Did you know that?

Which only made martyrs, which resulted in a faster spread of Christianity.

Well perhaps, but the point is that they understood what christianity was!  Very astute people the Romans.

The Romans were in the pockets of the Jewish Leaders. They listened to their slander of Christianity and the Romans bought it. So the Romans were a tool of "Religous People."

Wow, I didn't know the Jews were actually powerful, and actually in a position to slander other religions (Not that I condone it).

Well it is what I have been taught. The Jews were quite popular in the Roman Empier until the rebellion in 70 a.d.
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« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2005, 12:15:11 AM »
« Edited: April 09, 2005, 12:33:39 AM by Frodo »

The Romans were in the pockets of the Jewish Leaders. They listened to their slander of Christianity and the Romans bought it. So the Romans were a tool of "Religous People."

Wow, I didn't know the Jews were actually powerful, and actually in a position to slander other religions (Not that I condone it).

Well it is what I have been taught. The Jews were quite popular in the Roman Empier until the rebellion in 70 a.d.

PBrunsel, where do you get your history anyway?  this is the first i have heard of that Judaism was somehow 'popular' within the Roman Empire, especially given that it was and is a strictly monotheistic faith that denied the existence of other gods, including the ancestral deities of Rome like Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva.  The Romans, as i understand them, were during their early imperial phase tolerant of the deities of the peoples that they conquered -for the most part (with the notable exception of the Druids in Britain)- and sought to draw parallels and connections between these local gods and goddesses and their own.  having such a tolerant mindset, i somehow doubt that the Romans would have looked kindly on a faith like Judaism which continually fostered rebellion after rebellion against Roman rule in Judea which reached a climax in the great rebellion of A.D. 70 that you mentioned, and the destruction of the Second Temple, and the subsequent dispersement of the Jewish population to the far flung corners of the Greco-Roman world. 

perhaps a more accurate depiction of the relationship between Judaism and the Roman Empire would have been one of wariness and distrust by both sides, though the Romans were pragmatic enough to let the Jews run their own affairs under their own kings who pledged loyalty to Rome, and had an established Jewish priesthood that made a tacit deal with the Roman imperial authorities that in return for some measure of autonomy that they would maintain the status quo and not challenge the authority of Rome.       
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« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2005, 07:53:15 AM »

I see my post which included a lovely old painting of two lions eating a christian has been removed.

These boards are getting so censored it is almost impossible to express any idea unacceptable to the Religious Right.
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« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2005, 05:02:16 PM »

I scored 260, making me a George Bush Sr. Christian (a.k.a. "Right-Leaning Traditionalist").

Sad right wing....
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« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2005, 01:29:26 PM »

 You scored 413, on a scale of 0 to 400. Here's how to interpret your score:
 330 - 400     
You are a Jerry Falwell Christian (a.k.a "Historicist").
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