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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2015, 01:13:02 PM »

1912: all 3 progressive
1924: both conservative (excluding LaFollete)
1936: all liberal (ish)
1944: all liberal
1948: all liberal
1952: all liberal
1956: all liberal
1960: all liberal maybe
1976: both centerist
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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2015, 02:51:19 PM »

In 1908 Taft was arguably liberal/progressive, but he definitely was not in 1912.
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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2016, 03:02:39 PM »

What about 1980? There had to be a reason the Liberal party of NY State didn't endorse Carter.
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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2016, 03:31:53 PM »

What about 1980? There had to be a reason the Liberal party of NY State didn't endorse Carter.

Thats surprising
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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2016, 06:22:34 PM »

While Carter is certainly centrist, Reagan was still far to the right of him, specifically on foreign affairs.
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« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2016, 08:30:31 AM »

1912: all 3 progressive
1924: both conservative (excluding LaFollete)
1936: all liberal (ish)
1944: all liberal
1948: all liberal
1952: all liberal
1956: all liberal
1960: all liberal maybe
1976: both centerist


Holy moly, Dwight Eisenhower was not a liberal.  This is the strangest revisionism of them all.

You know how hardcore conservatives like Cruz call people like Kasich "RINOs" because they aren't quite as extreme as the "true conservatives" would like, but Democrats laugh at this because both are conservatives at the end of the day who simply disagree on method and pragmatism?  Insert Goldwater and Eisenhower instead.
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« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2016, 08:31:19 AM »

In 1908 Taft was arguably liberal/progressive, but he definitely was not in 1912.

You know Roosevelt criticized him for breaking up TOO MANY trusts, right?...
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« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2016, 10:57:13 AM »

What about 1980? There had to be a reason the Liberal party of NY State didn't endorse Carter.

Roger Stone dropped off a briefcase full of cash at the office of an attorney who was a leading member of the Liberal Party. Ronald Reagan would go on to claim a plurality in New York State that year.
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« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2016, 11:39:29 AM »

In 1912 all cannidates were left of center on economics.
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« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2016, 03:43:11 PM »

Both Conservative:1924
Both Liberal:1940 and 1912

Eisenhower was NOT a liberal. He was a center-right conservative with populist leanings and support for certain government programs.
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« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2016, 05:41:50 PM »

1996 one could argue had two Conservatives running against eachother.
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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2016, 05:46:48 PM »

1996 one could argue had two Conservatives running against eachother.

The top 3 candidates were right-wing, since Perot was right-wing too.

They were all more conservative than the Libertarians.
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« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2016, 08:40:56 PM »

1996 one could argue had two Conservatives running against eachother.

The top 3 candidates were right-wing, since Perot was right-wing too.

They were all more conservative than the Libertarians.

Depends on how you view conservative, IMO.  If you're looking at wedge issues and rudimentary metrics like "small government," sure ... but if you're looking at motive (means to an end) and the type of world/societal structure each candidate would prefer, not at all.  With the latter view (which I adhere to), the GOP and Democrats largely haven't strayed from their basic goals since each of their inceptions, regardless of which methods or campaign slogans they've used to get there.
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« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2016, 10:07:25 PM »

1912: all 3 progressive
1924: both conservative (excluding LaFollete)
1936: all liberal (ish)
1944: all liberal
1948: all liberal
1952: all liberal
1956: all liberal
1960: all liberal maybe
1976: both centerist


Holy moly, Dwight Eisenhower was not a liberal.  This is the strangest revisionism of them all.

You know how hardcore conservatives like Cruz call people like Kasich "RINOs" because they aren't quite as extreme as the "true conservatives" would like, but Democrats laugh at this because both are conservatives at the end of the day who simply disagree on method and pragmatism?  Insert Goldwater and Eisenhower instead.

except Goldwater would likely be considered a moderate in todays GOP. Ever since Newt Gingrich impeached Clinton the entire GOP has moved way far to the right
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« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2016, 11:30:53 PM »

1912: all 3 progressive
1924: both conservative (excluding LaFollete)
1936: all liberal (ish)
1944: all liberal
1948: all liberal
1952: all liberal
1956: all liberal
1960: all liberal maybe
1976: both centerist


Holy moly, Dwight Eisenhower was not a liberal.  This is the strangest revisionism of them all.

You know how hardcore conservatives like Cruz call people like Kasich "RINOs" because they aren't quite as extreme as the "true conservatives" would like, but Democrats laugh at this because both are conservatives at the end of the day who simply disagree on method and pragmatism?  Insert Goldwater and Eisenhower instead.

You do know Ike didn't run in 1960, right?
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« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2016, 11:55:51 PM »

1912: all 3 progressive
1924: both conservative (excluding LaFollete)
1936: all liberal (ish)
1944: all liberal
1948: all liberal
1952: all liberal
1956: all liberal
1960: all liberal maybe
1976: both centerist


Holy moly, Dwight Eisenhower was not a liberal.  This is the strangest revisionism of them all.

You know how hardcore conservatives like Cruz call people like Kasich "RINOs" because they aren't quite as extreme as the "true conservatives" would like, but Democrats laugh at this because both are conservatives at the end of the day who simply disagree on method and pragmatism?  Insert Goldwater and Eisenhower instead.

You do know Ike didn't run in 1960, right?
He was talking about 1952 and 1956, which are also on the list.
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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2016, 12:43:40 AM »

1912: all 3 progressive
1924: both conservative (excluding LaFollete)
1936: all liberal (ish)
1944: all liberal
1948: all liberal
1952: all liberal
1956: all liberal
1960: all liberal maybe
1976: both centerist


Holy moly, Dwight Eisenhower was not a liberal.  This is the strangest revisionism of them all.

You know how hardcore conservatives like Cruz call people like Kasich "RINOs" because they aren't quite as extreme as the "true conservatives" would like, but Democrats laugh at this because both are conservatives at the end of the day who simply disagree on method and pragmatism?  Insert Goldwater and Eisenhower instead.

You do know Ike didn't run in 1960, right?
He was talking about 1952 and 1956, which are also on the list.

He did put 1960 in bold.
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« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2016, 11:02:40 AM »

1912: all 3 progressive
1924: both conservative (excluding LaFollete)
1936: all liberal (ish)
1944: all liberal
1948: all liberal
1952: all liberal
1956: all liberal
1960: all liberal maybe
1976: both centerist


Holy moly, Dwight Eisenhower was not a liberal.  This is the strangest revisionism of them all.

You know how hardcore conservatives like Cruz call people like Kasich "RINOs" because they aren't quite as extreme as the "true conservatives" would like, but Democrats laugh at this because both are conservatives at the end of the day who simply disagree on method and pragmatism?  Insert Goldwater and Eisenhower instead.

You do know Ike didn't run in 1960, right?
He was talking about 1952 and 1956, which are also on the list.

He did put 1960 in bold.

No, the post I was quoting already had it in bold.
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« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2016, 10:29:47 AM »
« Edited: February 27, 2016, 01:34:40 AM by GeologistSaidYes »

1960, Nixon the liberal. JFK the conservative.
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« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2016, 01:39:08 PM »

1960, Nicon the liberal. JFK the conservative.

Even if this post weren't comically retarded, it wouldn't even qualify as you've clearly labeled the two candidates as being of differing ideologies (even if you got that horribly wrong).
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