Another Question to Pro-Lifers

[Akno21]

Well

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Option 3. I already have all the children I want.

[A18]

No, but plenty of other people will. And it's adoption, BTW, not "adaption."

[Jake]

Have to see where I am in life.  Certainly if I want children and can't create one, I'd definitely adopt.

[dazzleman]

I know this is a loaded question, Akno21.  You are trying to suggest that pro-life people are hypocrites.

I would adopt a child if I were married and we were unable to have children.  To do that, I would probably have to go to Russia or China, as adoption in the US is very expensive and fraught with long-term legal difficulties.

In my state, Gov. Rell is proposing measures to make adoption easier and free kids from long-term foster care.  Right now, there are people willing to adopt, and our laws prevent them from doing so.

Adoption is a beautiful thing, and can often work out very successfully.

[Richard]

Probably.  I think it would be cool to have like 10 kids.

[Akno21]

I know this is a loaded question, Akno21.  You are trying to suggest that pro-life people are hypocrites.

I'm not denying that it is, although certainly not all of them are hypocrites. People who consistantly talk about the benefits of adoption, (which I don't deny, and I am all for it, and gay adoption as well) and are in a position to do so should adapt.

If you talk the talk you should walk the walk. We can teach in schools to those in pregnancy alternatives to abortion, such as having your child adopted.

I am for easing the laws to make it less intimidating and full of paperwork to adopt.

[dazzleman]

I know this is a loaded question, Akno21.  You are trying to suggest that pro-life people are hypocrites.

I'm not denying that it is, although certainly not all of them are hypocrites. People who consistantly talk about the benefits of adoption, (which I don't deny, and I am all for it, and gay adoption as well) and are in a position to do so should adapt.

If you talk the talk you should walk the walk. We can teach in schools to those in pregnancy alternatives to abortion, such as having your child adopted.

I am for easing the laws to make it less intimidating and full of paperwork to adopt.

You didn't seem to read the part of my post, which suggested that there are more people willing to adopt than there are children to adopt, at this point in time.

In order for adoption to work, it is not necessary that every person adopt a child.  There wouldn't be anywhere near enough children to meet this demand, even if abortion were totally outlawed.

[Akno21]

I know this is a loaded question, Akno21.  You are trying to suggest that pro-life people are hypocrites.

I'm not denying that it is, although certainly not all of them are hypocrites. People who consistantly talk about the benefits of adoption, (which I don't deny, and I am all for it, and gay adoption as well) and are in a position to do so should adapt.

If you talk the talk you should walk the walk. We can teach in schools to those in pregnancy alternatives to abortion, such as having your child adopted.

I am for easing the laws to make it less intimidating and full of paperwork to adopt.

You didn't seem to read the part of my post, which suggested that there are more people willing to adopt than there are children to adopt, at this point in time.

In order for adoption to work, it is not necessary that every person adopt a child.  There wouldn't be anywhere near enough children to meet this demand, even if abortion were totally outlawed.

I don't want to force people to adopt, a main purpose of adoption in the first place is to get the kid out of the hands of someone who doesn't want it.

Is there data that shows how many households are willing to adopt children?

[opebo]

Probably.  I think it would be cool to have like 10 kids.

They wouldn't allow you to adopt.

[phk]

I know this is a loaded question, Akno21.  You are trying to suggest that pro-life people are hypocrites.

I'm not denying that it is, although certainly not all of them are hypocrites. People who consistantly talk about the benefits of adoption, (which I don't deny, and I am all for it, and gay adoption as well) and are in a position to do so should adapt.

If you talk the talk you should walk the walk. We can teach in schools to those in pregnancy alternatives to abortion, such as having your child adopted.

I am for easing the laws to make it less intimidating and full of paperwork to adopt.

You didn't seem to read the part of my post, which suggested that there are more people willing to adopt than there are children to adopt, at this point in time.

In order for adoption to work, it is not necessary that every person adopt a child.  There wouldn't be anywhere near enough children to meet this demand, even if abortion were totally outlawed.

I don't want to force people to adopt, a main purpose of adoption in the first place is to get the kid out of the hands of someone who doesn't want it.

Is there data that shows how many households are willing to adopt children?

I believe that there are more unwanted kids and abortions per year than there are parents willing to adopt.

To be pro-life, means to ensure a kid will get tortured his whole life, to a third worlder it means dying of starvvation before age 5.

Pre-birth abortions are definitely better than post-biirth abortions.

[opebo]

I believe that there are more unwanted kids and abortions per year than there are parents willing to adopt.

Well many of them are inconvenient and unpopular colours.

[The Duke]

Since I don't want children, I have to only vote maybe.  You never know what a wife can convince you to do.  But if I ever do get talked into having children, my preference is adoption.

[Bono]

Probably.  I think it would be cool to have like 10 kids.

So that you could provide 10 new recruits to the Ontario Militia?

[George W. Bush]

Yea I plan to adopt, I dont like little kids.

[J.R. Brown]

Yes.

[Dave from Michigan]

I voted maybe,  personally I don't know if I even want children.  If I did I would most likely not adopt, but you don't know whats going to happen.

[Ebowed]

I believe that there are more unwanted kids and abortions per year than there are parents willing to adopt.

Well many of them are inconvenient and unpopular colours.

There's a shortage of children available and legal technicalities make it more difficult.  Don't try and suggest racism conspiracy theories for every possible cause related to pro-life people (or religion for that matter).

[Blue Rectangle]

Akno, your question implies a shifting of the burden of proof.  Pro-lifers do not need to solve all society's ills in order for our position to be valid, any more than pro-choicers do.

The abortion question is this simple: when does a human become a human?  If the answer is "at birth" then the pro-choice position is correct, if the answer is "before birth" then the pro-life position is correct.  Societal benefits do not justify the taking of an innocent human life.

[Nym90]

Akno, your question implies a shifting of the burden of proof.  Pro-lifers do not need to solve all society's ills in order for our position to be valid, any more than pro-choicers do.

The abortion question is this simple: when does a human become a human?  If the answer is "at birth" then the pro-choice position is correct, if the answer is "before birth" then the pro-life position is correct.  Societal benefits do not justify the taking of an innocent human life.

Actually, my answer is "before birth, but after conception" and I'm pro-choice before that moment, and pro-life afterwards. That, however, is generally considered pro-choice, as in order to be pro-life, as I understand it, you generally have to feel that abortion should be illegal at any stage in the pregnancy (with perhaps some exceptions, such as rape, life of mother, etc).

[ian]

Yes.