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« on: June 25, 2014, 11:03:58 PM »

The North Korean regime is a cancer in the heart of Northeast Asia that must be ripped out- even if it costs Seoul in the process.
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2014, 08:41:36 AM »

The North Korean regime is a cancer in the heart of Northeast Asia that must be ripped out- even if it costs Seoul in the process.

Why?

It's a cancer. Cancers don't go away; they just metastasize. Yesterday, it would have cost Seoul. Today, Seoul and Tokyo. Tomorrow, Seoul, Tokyo, Beijing, Los Angeles and San Francisco. What you have is a highly unstable regime with steadily progressing rocket technology. One day they will have working ICBMs. Maybe not this year or next year, but that is the trajectory. The sooner this thing is ripped out the better we can take stock of our existing losses.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2014, 10:06:20 PM »

That's why they should have been taken them out in 1994. The longer we wait, the more painful it will be when the regime finally tips over the oblivion.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2014, 10:24:07 PM »

That's why they should have been taken them out in 1994. The longer we wait, the more painful it will be when the regime finally tips over the oblivion.

If # they need to be "taken out" wont it be safer to wait until China is ready to do it?
It seems they could do it at a lower cost and possibly parts of the army would desert to the Chinese, but never to the US.

# and Ill assume for the sake of argument that you are right about this.

EDIT: North Korea is actually an area where I trust Beijing to have it under control. They have as much interest in North Korea not going crazy as the West and better intelligence about the situation. If its necessary to intervene they will do it.

Jang Song Thaek would still be alive if Beijing had control. They might have had a leash when  Kim Jong Il was in, but not Kim Jong Un.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2014, 10:40:08 PM »

That's why they should have been taken them out in 1994. The longer we wait, the more painful it will be when the regime finally tips over the oblivion.

If # they need to be "taken out" wont it be safer to wait until China is ready to do it?
It seems they could do it at a lower cost and possibly parts of the army would desert to the Chinese, but never to the US.

# and Ill assume for the sake of argument that you are right about this.

EDIT: North Korea is actually an area where I trust Beijing to have it under control. They have as much interest in North Korea not going crazy as the West and better intelligence about the situation. If its necessary to intervene they will do it.

Jang Song Thaek would still be alive if Beijing had control. They might have had a leash when  Kim Jong Il was in, but not Kim Jong Un.

You misunderstand, I am not saying they control North Korea, but that they monitor the situation (with better info than the US) and are able to intervene with less terrible consequences than if the US does it.

Sure, if they do it. But they've shown no signs of doing so... they are still clinging to the delusion that North Korea is their friend, and a "buffer zone" against the U.S. By the time they realize Kim Jong Un is off the rocks it will be too late.
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