Who will win in 2008?

[© tweed]

didn't they take a poll showing that a vast majority of people don't want her to run

something like 75%

[PBrunsel]

2008:



John Edwards (NC)/Harold Ford Jr. (TN) 358
Bill Owens (CO)/Jim Talent (MO) 180

I think owens would win Arizona, Tenesse, and North Carolina. They do not have a history of Democratic controll.

[© tweed]

2008:



John Edwards (NC)/Harold Ford Jr. (TN) 358
Bill Owens (CO)/Jim Talent (MO) 180

NC=Edwards home state
TN=Ford's home state
AZ=Increasing hispanic population

I think owens would win Arizona, Tenesse, and North Carolina. They do not have a history of Democratic controll.

[Reaganfan]

Gov Bill Owens of Colorado over either Hillary Clinton or PA Gov Ed Rendell.....over Clinton by alot by Rendell over a little

Owens / Voinovich 2008

I lived by Voinovich when he was mayor. Met him It think.

[The Duke]

I think you overrate Edwards as a cnadidate.  He would not win re-election to the Senate this year if he were running.  He'd not win any of those southern states.  I'll believe that Harold Ford can carry Tennessee when he wins a Senate race there, until then he's just another nobody hitting .320 in AA ball.

Edwards also stunk up the Dem primaries in Ohio and Michigan, calling into question whther he could win those states in a general.  His overly southern accent didn't wear well in the rustbelt.

His only strenght is in farm states.  He'd hold his own in Iowa and Wisconsin, but I can't see him doing well in the southwest or the moderate New England states (Maine, New Hampshire).  He is a southern populist in the tradition of Al Gore Sr. in a south that doesn't want populists anymore.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

If Edwards was to jump back into the NC Senate race now (which he won't), he'd win a landslide...

[Rococo4]

If Edwards was to jump back into the NC Senate race now (which he won't), he'd win a landslide...

If he was so confident he was going to win, maybe he would have come back to the race.  I suspect he is not so confident.

[JohnFKennedy]

If Edwards was to jump back into the NC Senate race now (which he won't), he'd win a landslide...

If he was so confident he was going to win, maybe he would have come back to the race.  I suspect he is not so confident.

Democrats have already picked a candidate for the race so he couldn't.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The NC Dems have pick Erskine Bowles (who lost to Dole in 2002).
He's currently in the lead over Burr, because he's been banging on about trade.

[© tweed]

If Edwards was to jump back into the NC Senate race now (which he won't), he'd win a landslide...

not a landslide, maybe 5-10% win.

[Rococo4]

If Edwards was to jump back into the NC Senate race now (which he won't), he'd win a landslide...

I didnt think they had their primary yet for the Senate.  If they hadnt, Edwards could have done something.

If he was so confident he was going to win, maybe he would have come back to the race.  I suspect he is not so confident.

Democrats have already picked a candidate for the race so he couldn't.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

If Edwards was to jump back into the NC Senate race now (which he won't), he'd win a landslide...

not a landslide, maybe 5-10% win.

"Landslide" depends on your interpretation of the word
Over 10% certainly

[GD]

If Kerry wins 2004, then Kerry 2008.

If Bush wins 2004 -

I'll say a Dem and go with Tom Vilsek (sp?) of Iowa.

[JohnFKennedy]

Edwards in 2008!!!!!

[GD]

Hillary wuldn't win a primary...she would be busted in the south.

I don't think that matters any more. The Dems are not going to take the South for a couple of generations, I'd say. Florida is the only important exception.

But on the other hand Vermont which only voted for one Democrat from 1856-1988 will never vote Republican again in the foreseeable future.

[JohnFKennedy]

She wouldn't win any southern states in an election if she was chosen.

He was referring to the Southern PRIMARIES, in which she would be slaughtered by other Democrats.

[© tweed]

She wouldn't win any southern states in an election if she was chosen.

Against Rice she might...

[JohnFKennedy]

Hillary Clinton Vs Condoleeza Rice??

That will happen when Pigs not only fly, they fly a mission to the moon and return with cheese that turns them into a fighting force to be reckoned with, thus creating a new Piggy World Power that will take over the world.

THEN that election will happen.

[GD]

She wouldn't win any southern states in an election if she was chosen.

He was referring to the Southern PRIMARIES, in which she would be slaughtered by other Democrats.

I don't think Clinton would do that bad with Southern (largly black) Democrats. A regional candidate like Edwards might give her trouble. She could do well in Iowa, but might have some trouble in New Hampshire.

[MAS117]

I choose other cause I'll be voting for John Kerry for reelection

[Reaganfan]

Over Clinton, Giuliani would win.

[The Duke]

Rudy is the man.

[Demrepdan]

Both of these people will have a VERY hard time getting elected by their party. Rudy is too liberal......and Hillary is just........well......Hillary. So if ONE of them were to get nominated...that would surpise the hell out of me....but if BOTH get nominated TOGETHER....and run AGAINST one another.....then it will be the end of the world......

[StevenNick]

I don't think either will be running in 2008.  Rudy will just be getting used to the perks of his new senate seat while Hillary is sulking in her forced retirement.

If Hillary does manage to survive reelection to the Senate, I would love to see a Hillary Clinton vs. Condoleeza Rice campaign.  Would that not be an entertaining race.  I think Condi would win a landslide.

[© tweed]

I don't think either will be running in 2008.  Rudy will just be getting used to the perks of his new senate seat while Hillary is sulking in her forced retirement.

If Hillary does manage to survive reelection to the Senate, I would love to see a Hillary Clinton vs. Condoleeza Rice campaign.  Would that not be an entertaining race.  I think Condi would win a landslide.

No landslide.  Turnout in the south would be SUPERLOW unless a Roy Moore emerged, then we would be looking at no electoral majority.