ERIC CANTOR *LOSES* PRIMARY!!!

[Bacon King]

Simfan, for someone comparing his political opponents to the Nazis, your rhetoric is kinda sounding a bit fascist.

PS do you currently have any sock and are they participating in this thread because I find it difficult to believe anyone else would actually feel so strongly about this

[traininthedistance]

Simfan's meltdown in this thread has, I think, eclipsed ag on Ukraine.  Epic.

[Simfan34]

Simfan, for someone comparing his political opponents to the Nazis, your rhetoric is kinda sounding a bit fascist.

PS do you currently have any sock and are they participating in this thread because I find it difficult to believe anyone else would actually feel so strongly about this

Who else is expressing such feeling? I'm confused. What makes you think there is a sock, and what does my rhetoric have to do with it?

[Joe Republic]

I honestly am amazed at the level of attacks on Brat for somehow being anti-semitic. I just can't comprehend some of these posts at all.

Eric Cantor losing is not the end of the GOP. Sorry folks. Kevin McCarthy or Cathy McMorris Rogers is going to replace him, and nothing will change in Washington-besides Boehnor's biggest threat being removed. Cantor was a man who put ambition over ideology; he'd stab his mother in the back for power. And everyone wins tonight-the GOP leadership, the Tea Party, and the Democrats, who have ridded the man most responsible for the shutdown.

The only narrative that comes from this is "GOP CIVIL WAR CLAIMS MAJORITY LEADER".  That is hardly a message the GOP needs to still be fighting against five months before the mid-terms.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I honestly am amazed at the level of attacks on Brat for somehow being anti-semitic. I just can't comprehend some of these posts at all.

Eric Cantor losing is not the end of the GOP. Sorry folks. Kevin McCarthy or Cathy McMorris Rogers is going to replace him, and nothing will change in Washington-besides Boehnor's biggest threat being removed. Cantor was a man who put ambition over ideology; he'd stab his mother in the back for power. And everyone wins tonight-the GOP leadership, the Tea Party, and the Democrats, who have ridded the man most responsible for the shutdown.

The only narrative that comes from this is "GOP CIVIL WAR CLAIMS MAJORITY LEADER".  That is hardly a message the GOP needs to still be fighting against five months before the mid-terms.

Election wise, your right. But I was thinking more about the daily affairs in Congress rather than elections.

[Ab1234mdusr]

Interesting fact: Cantor's district includes Kings Dominion. I guess Brat is the real "Dominator" in this election.

[Simfan34]

More coded anti-Semitic rhetoric from Brat:

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/05/14/

[Deus Naturae]

I like how people in this thread are trying to pretend that Cantor and Brat are the exact same. There were plenty of other policy differences between them besides immigration. Brat opposes Federal educational mandates while Cantor voted for No Child Left Behind. Brat opposes crony capitalism and bailouts while Cantor voted for the Farm Bill and TARP. Brat opposes NSA spying and indefinite detention while Cantor voted for the NDAA and against the Amash amendment. The idea that Cantor is identical to any Tea Partier and only got challenged because he's Jewish is just ridiculous.

[Deus Naturae]

More coded anti-Semitic rhetoric from Brat:

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/05/14/

So, he's a secret anti-Semite because he's comparing himself to a Jewish hero?

[Meursault]

Define "crony capitalism" in terms of the traits it has that no other form of capitalism.

[Maxwell]

I like how people in this thread are trying to pretend that Cantor and Brat are the exact same. There were plenty of other policy differences between them besides immigration. Brat opposes Federal educational mandates while Cantor voted for No Child Left Behind. Brat opposes crony capitalism and bailouts while Cantor voted for the Farm Bill and TARP. Brat opposes NSA spying and indefinite detention while Cantor voted for the NDAA and against the Amash amendment. The idea that Cantor is identical to any Tea Partier and only got challenged because he's Jewish is just ridiculous.

I did some research on Brat, but not a lot, but he sounds excellent. Glad to see him in congress then, even with the dumb religious stuff.

[bedstuy]

More coded anti-Semitic rhetoric from Brat:

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/05/14/

This guy must really know his religion.  Remember when David fought the Roman Empire?  I think that was in the book of Robert Zemeckis where David used a modified Delorian to go into the future and help the Jews fight Rome.

[Yank2133]

GOPs own damn fault, should have nipped this bud in 2009.

[Likely Voter]

If the hand of god was at hand, don't  you think the Almighty could pull off more than 54%?

[King]

I actually came across impressed with the guy from his interview on Hannity.  For a Teabagger, he doesn't sound too dumb and seems to be more of a serious issues guy rather than simply a mouthbreathing Neanderthal racist like Louie Gohmert.  

I'd rather have a far right economics professor than a far right lawyer coming out of far right districts.

[TJ in Oregon]

Meh good riddance. Cantor was always one of the worst in the GOP establishment and a huge part of the government shutdown debacle. I have no idea who Brat is but I probably would have voted for him after that. Maybe Brat will turn out to be a disaster, but if he does, his disaster will most likely not have as far reaching effects since he isn't a part of the House leadership.

Simfan, Cantor's religion has absolutely nothing to do with this. What part of the Gospels did Brat quote? Unless he's saying "His blood is on our hands and the hands of our children" or something along those lines, it probably had nothing to do with Cantor whatsoever. And of course he thinks he's the right guy to win. What remotely competitive politician doesn't believe that? Simfan, the human mind is made to see patterns even where there are none. There's none here.

[Simfan34]

Perhaps, TJ. As you might imagine I am mellowing a bit here. Earlier, I wanted to drive down to Virginia and bludgeon Brat with a baseball bat. Now, I realise that might not have been the best of ideas, alongside the calls for extermination of Tea Partiers and whatnot, perhaps. In hindsight, the rhetoric seems a bit... extreme. But it is still a travesty, indubitably.

[MaxQue]

Some of these comments make me laugh. Yes, how dare someone run against a Jewish Republican, as if that was the main issue of the campaign.

It is not that. It is the tenor of his campaign, all this talk about God and Jesus, that was rather blatant dog-whistling, as to say I am the God-fearing, church-going Christian in this race. It is obvious.

So, according to this logic, a Christian cannot mention his faith in the presence of a Jew? I don't think this was an issue at all-Cantor has survived challenge after challenge in the past, and I doubt they were all from fellow Jewish Republicans....

No, pretty much. He can't. It's of no relevance. It's not "mentioning his faith". It's taking a semi-messianic approach to it.

God is of no relevance?

Well, in my opinion, politicians are talking way too often about God, and it's often not because of their faith, but because being a good Christian is a vote-getter. I find that despicable and insulting for God. God is more than a political argument. My interpretation of "Thou shalt not take the name of God in vain" is than God should be used in religions matters and personal morals, perhaps policy issues, but there is nothing of it there. He is mentioning God to show to voters he is a strong Christian. Perhaps he is, but anyways, either he is an hypocrite, either he uses the name of God for his personal benefit.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Interesting that Cantor focused on helping and empowering the "working middle class families"/compassionate conservatism in his concession speech.

[Simfan34]

Interesting that Cantor focused on helping and empowering the "working middle class families"/compassionate conservatism in his concession speech.

The way forwards out of this cesspool of a mess.

[Never]

I actually came across impressed with the guy from his interview on Hannity.  For a Teabagger, he doesn't sound too dumb and seems to be more of a serious issues guy rather than simply a mouthbreathing Neanderthal racist like Louie Gohmert.  

I'd rather have a far right economics professor than a far right lawyer coming out of far right districts.

He does seem reasonable. I read a transcript of that interview, and he appears to be informed. I'm inclined to claim that Brat is probably a solid conservative, not an extremist.

Interesting that Cantor focused on helping and empowering the "working middle class families"/compassionate conservatism in his concession speech.

Cantor for Senate? I'm just joking.

[Deus Naturae]

Define "crony capitalism" in terms of the traits it has that no other form of capitalism.

It's a political buzzword that refers to government interventionism in favor of various interest groups (the "cronies").  Not a precise term, to be sure, but you get the point. I suppose the reason "capitalism" gets added on is because it typically refers to situation in which the government takes the place of private markets actors, often capitalists. For example, in the case of agricultural subsidies, the government has taken the place of private investors and has poured huge amounts of capital into the agricultural industry that otherwise would not have been invested. Or, more likely, "crony capitalism" just sounds catchier to people and is better at stimulating voters.

[Napoleon]

Mother of God, the party needs to carpetbomb his challenger. Ruin his life, and not just politically. Make him end his days a homeless drunk lying in the sewer.

You seriously need to check yourself in.

[Adam Griffin]

RIP GOP

BOOYAKASHA
BOOYAKASHA
BOOYAKASHA

[TJ in Oregon]

Perhaps, TJ. As you might imagine I am mellowing a bit here. Earlier, I wanted to drive down to Virginia and bludgeon Brat with a baseball bat. Now, I realise that might not have been the best of ideas, alongside the calls for extermination of Tea Partiers and whatnot, perhaps. In hindsight, the rhetoric seems a bit... extreme. But it is still a travesty, indubitably.

The Tea Party has been responsible for a number of travesties, and if you want one from this year look to Mississippi. But this is not a travesty. Cantor was part of the problem even if he was a member of the party leadership. Did immigration play some role? Certainly. But that's not the whole story here, look at South Carolina where Lindsay Graham just romped his way to a primary victory. The difference is the quality of the candidates and their abilities to connect with people. Graham is excellent and Cantor is not. Brat is apparently excellent and Graham's opponents were not. I don't think many people in Cantor's district really get the feeling he accurately represents their interests. The Tea Party doesn't trust him since he's part of the leadership and opposed to them on practically every issue dividing the Republican Party. And what moderate Republicans are really going to find any sort of inspiration for the abrasive Cantor who to a large extent was part of the reason for the GOP's endless House leadership vacuum by playing continual opposition to Boehner? Who exactly is it that supports Cantor right now? As Tmth pointed out in one of the other threads, as long as Brat doesn't turn out to lose the seat or cause a national uproar, this will probably be a good thing for the GOP as we'll avoid the looming chance of an eventual Cantor Speakership. We might have just dodged a bullet.