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« on: May 27, 2014, 08:26:39 PM »

Snyder 47
Schauer 38

Snyder's approvals are awful though:

Approve 41
Disapprove 58

http://www.freep.com/article/20140527/NEWS06/305270129/
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2014, 08:38:36 PM »

If those approval numbers are accurate (which they may not be, Michigan pollsters after all) then Snyder will be in real trouble once Schauer gets more name recognition.
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2014, 01:19:48 PM »

If those approval numbers are accurate (which they may not be, Michigan pollsters after all) then Snyder will be in real trouble once Schauer gets more name recognition.

Nah. Engler's approvals were consistently in the dumps, and he won in landslides in 1994 and 1998. Same with Granholm in 2006.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2014, 08:43:00 AM »

If those approval numbers are accurate (which they may not be, Michigan pollsters after all) then Snyder will be in real trouble once Schauer gets more name recognition.

Nah. Engler's approvals were consistently in the dumps, and he won in landslides in 1994 and 1998. Same with Granholm in 2006.

We definately need MI to lock in the senate. It is definately the tipping pt state along with Pa and FL and Me and even ARK gov. Synder is still vul.
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2014, 09:13:00 AM »

If those approval numbers are accurate (which they may not be, Michigan pollsters after all) then Snyder will be in real trouble once Schauer gets more name recognition.

Nah. Engler's approvals were consistently in the dumps, and he won in landslides in 1994 and 1998. Same with Granholm in 2006.
I'd probably call Granholm's 2006 reelection a near-landslide, since she only got 56% of the vote.

Anyway, Michigan seems to have a habit of reelecting unpopular governors. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2014, 10:07:49 AM »

Snyder 47
Schauer 38

Snyder's approvals are awful though:

Approve 41
Disapprove 58


http://www.freep.com/article/20140527/NEWS06/305270129/

EPIC-MRA uses an "excellent/good/fair/poor" scale to rate the approval.

This is not comparable with an "approve/disapprove" poll.

Many people who say "fair" usually approve, which means Snyders approval is much higher in reality.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2014, 10:10:51 AM »

Snyder 47
Schauer 38

Snyder's approvals are awful though:

Approve 41
Disapprove 58


http://www.freep.com/article/20140527/NEWS06/305270129/

EPIC-MRA uses an "excellent/good/fair/poor" scale to rate the approval.

This is not comparable with an "approve/disapprove" poll.

Many people who say "fair" usually approve, which means Snyders approval is much higher in reality.
Agreed.
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2014, 10:17:15 AM »

According to that other recent MI poll, Snyder's approval is this:

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2014, 12:58:51 PM »

Snyder 47
Schauer 38

Snyder's approvals are awful though:

Approve 41
Disapprove 58


http://www.freep.com/article/20140527/NEWS06/305270129/

EPIC-MRA uses an "excellent/good/fair/poor" scale to rate the approval.

This is not comparable with an "approve/disapprove" poll.

Many people who say "fair" usually approve, which means Snyders approval is much higher in reality.

Ah, that explains it. Ignore my previous comment then.

The "E/G/F/P" scale is pretty useless, especially when they convert it to a straight approve/disapprove rating.
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2014, 03:37:43 PM »

A nine pt swing isnt insurmountable and with the labor movt GOTV with Peters may spill over to gov race. As long as we hold the cards over Land in Senate campaign, it may spill over to the gov race. And especially despite positive polls.
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2014, 09:54:37 PM »

A nine pt swing isnt insurmountable and with the labor movt GOTV with Peters may spill over to gov race. As long as we hold the cards over Land in Senate campaign, it may spill over to the gov race. And especially despite positive polls.

"A nine point swing isn't impossible, if Labor has a strong GOTV campaign and with Peters performance in the Senate race increasing Democratic turnout, Schauer can win."

Right?
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2014, 10:10:06 PM »

I didnt say we definately will win this race but Epic leans to the Right sometimes and PPP has had it much tighter. Give it time, it isnt late Sept. But Schauer is better off than Fitgerald.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2014, 12:28:35 AM »

I didnt say we definately will win this race but Epic leans to the Right sometimes and PPP has had it much tighter. Give it time, it isnt late Sept. But Schauer is better off than Fitgerald.

Can =/= Definitely

It's debatable whether or not Schauer is better off than FitzGerald, but I also feel the race will tighten, but Snyder should win by 5 or so points.
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2014, 01:00:23 PM »

I didnt say we definately will win this race but Epic leans to the Right sometimes and PPP has had it much tighter. Give it time, it isnt late Sept. But Schauer is better off than Fitgerald.

Can =/= Definitely

It's debatable whether or not Schauer is better off than FitzGerald, but I also feel the race will tighten, but Snyder should win by 5 or so points.

How is Schauers name recognition so weak at this point? That is not a good sign for his candidacy. Even Fitzgerald is probably a better candidate at this point, but we'll see.
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2014, 01:17:12 PM »

I didnt say we definately will win this race but Epic leans to the Right sometimes and PPP has had it much tighter. Give it time, it isnt late Sept. But Schauer is better off than Fitgerald.

Can =/= Definitely

It's debatable whether or not Schauer is better off than FitzGerald, but I also feel the race will tighten, but Snyder should win by 5 or so points.

How is Schauers name recognition so weak at this point? That is not a good sign for his candidacy. Even Fitzgerald is probably a better candidate at this point, but we'll see.

Honestly, I haven't seen a whole lot of ads for either candidate--Schauer was running a few ads a month or so back, and there were some RGA ads running for a while, but that's about it.

On the other hand, the airwaves have been (relatively) flooded with US Senate ads. Hence why Peters' numbers have improved.

My take is totally anecdotal, so take it for what it's worth.
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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2014, 01:25:44 PM »

If those approval numbers are accurate (which they may not be, Michigan pollsters after all) then Snyder will be in real trouble once Schauer gets more name recognition.

Nah. Engler's approvals were consistently in the dumps, and he won in landslides in 1994 and 1998. Same with Granholm in 2006.
I'd probably call Granholm's 2006 reelection a near-landslide, since she only got 56% of the vote.

Anyway, Michigan seems to have a habit of reelecting unpopular governors. Smiley

Tough state to govern due to an economy in depression since the 1970s.
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