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Question: Which crimes should be subject to the death penalty?
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None		  
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Crimes against humanity (genocide, terrorism)		  
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Murder in the first degree (premeditated) with special circumstances		  
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Murder in the first degree without special circumstances		  
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Murder in the second degree		  
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Other violent felonies (Manslaughter, rape)		  
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non-violent drug related felonies (Smuggling, distribution)		  
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Other Nonviolent, non-drug related felonies (grand larceny, tax evasion)		  
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Serious misdemenors (burglary, drunk driving)		  
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Lesser misdemenors (minor drug possesion, shoplifting)		  
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Infractions (speeding, parking in a red zone)		  
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Citizen James
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« on: March 30, 2005, 04:59:11 AM »
For anyone who needs clarification:

Murder in the first degree is murder which is preplanned.

Special circumstances are criteria used in some states to classify the most henious forms of murder (Murder/rape, murder/torture, murder for hire, etc)

Murder in the second degree is when the murder is not planned in advance (often a crime of passion), but the accused acted with apperent intent to kill.

Manslaughter is an unintentional killing, either in violence without lethal intent (some fights), or gross neglegence (as a result of drunk driving, for example).
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2005, 05:02:35 AM »
Crimes against humanity are a legal fiction.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2005, 05:08:48 AM »
None.

You forgot to include treason and espionage, which Dick Cheney favors the death penalty for.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2005, 05:17:58 AM »
Quote from: Bono on March 30, 2005, 05:02:35 AM
Crimes against humanity are a legal fiction.
What?
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2005, 05:26:20 AM »
None, but replace with hard labor.

If not that, then just all the really sick stuff.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2005, 08:01:15 AM »

Crimes against humanity are a legal fiction becasue groups can't be the target of crimes. They are crimes against a very large number of individuals, but not crimes against humanity.
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2005, 08:14:05 AM »
I voted speeding. Smiley  (Only kidding - that would have put me on death row several times over.)

I voted for large-scale murder and murder with special circumstances.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2005, 10:20:26 AM »
Genocide - something on the scale of what Hitler did. That is it. I could go into another long rant on why I hate the death penalty but I think I will refrain this time Wink
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2005, 02:41:27 PM »
Murder, rape, kidnapping, abortion, treason.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2005, 02:58:06 PM »
I don't support the defined death penalty for anyone; however, if someone attacks our country (Osama) he/she should be found and killed so as to prevent something awful like this from happening again.
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2005, 02:58:38 PM »
btw, I didn't vote b/c I needed to specify how I feel about the death penalty for terrorists.
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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2005, 03:12:25 PM »
Quote from: James42 on March 30, 2005, 04:59:11 AM
For anyone who needs clarification:

Murder in the first degree is murder which is preplanned.

Special circumstances are criteria used in some states to classify the most henious forms of murder (Murder/rape, murder/torture, murder for hire, etc)

Murder in the second degree is when the murder is not planned in advance (often a crime of passion), but the accused acted with apperent intent to kill.

Manslaughter is an unintentional killing, either in violence without lethal intent (some fights), or gross neglegence (as a result of drunk driving, for example).

James,

You should have broken down the category for "other" meaning manslaughter and rape. I don't agree w/the death penalty for manslaughter but I definately think child rapists should be executed w/special circumstances. No, a 18y.o. messing w/a 17yo girl shouldn't get death but a 40yo perv messing with a 8 y.o. should be eliminated immediately.
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2005, 03:14:26 PM »
Yes for crimes against humanity, or for first or second degree murder.
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2005, 05:02:12 PM »
none.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2005, 05:10:20 PM »
Genocide, Mass Murder, Terrorism, Child Molestation, Abortion, Rape (special circumstances), 1st Degree murder
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2005, 05:13:20 PM »
I would also apply the death penalty to crimes where the criminal  used extreme brutality and/or cruelty and caused severe injury to his victim.
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2005, 07:13:18 PM »
Quote from: A18 on March 30, 2005, 05:26:20 AM
None, but replace with hard labor.

If not that, then just all the really sick stuff.

For once I agree.  A lot of public works programs could be done if the work force is free.  Like slavery, but they actually deserve it.
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2005, 07:28:19 PM »
Everything down to murder in the second degree. Not that I would usually favor the death penalty in such a circumstance, but if by subject you mean there is a *possibility*, then yes, it would depend on the individual circumstance.
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2005, 07:39:54 PM »
Options #2-5, plus child molestation.
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