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« Reply #1300 on: August 08, 2018, 09:42:12 PM »

I'll base mine on the guy right before me.

Labels:
Social: Totalitarian
Economic: Full Communism
Foreign Policy: Racial Nationalist/Proletarian Internationalist/Maoist Third-Worldist
Party: NACAZAI

Social Issues:
Abortion: Total ban in all cases except eugenics, race-mixing and rape. Death penalty for Jew abortionists.
Same-Sex Marriage: f****ts and bull dykes forced back in the closet with "gay pride" activists shoved into Gulags. However, bisexual women are fine if they are hot and make me masturbate. Nazbols realize lesbian erotica is a great propaganda tool.
Drugs: Legalize marijuana, decriminalize users and low level dealers of hard drugs, death penalty for Jewish/capitalist importers and traffickers of hard drugs
Death Penalty: used on pedophiles, the class enemy and various race and class traitors.
Euthanasia: Mandatory for Downies, the hydrocephalic and other dysgenic freaks.
Immigration: all non-White immigration banned and non-Whites repatriated unless they are only here as students, studying tactics for the Marxist overthrow of the neocolonial ZOG puppets in their own countries
Police and Prisons: ACAB.  the police. Destroy the current prison system which is a capitalist torture chamber for the poor and oppressed. Under the dictatorship of the proletariat, Gulags and secret police would be employed liberally for class enemies and class traitors.

Economic Issues:
Minimum Wage: Equal living wages for all workers.
Healthcare: total collectivization of health care, execute all capitalists who try to profit
Trade and Globalization: Unite with revolutionary communists and anti-imperialists all over the world for the destruction of WTO, IMF, World Bank, etc. Overturn the disaster of (((globalization))). Free trade of revolutionary Marxist-Leninist philosophical ideas between Socialist nations.
Campaign Finance: Finance revolutionary Marxist guerilla campaigns all over the world.
Energy: Use the flesh and blood of dead Zionists as fuel to heat the homes of the poor and working class.
Taxes: 100% tax on all capitalists to fund unlimited welfare for poor whites.

Foreign Policy Issues:
Foreign Funding: Fund revolutionary communist subversion and terror as well as bourgeois nationalist Third Positionist anti-imperialist strongmen all over the world.
Israel and Palestine: Off the planet with the fascist Zionist terror state of Israel! Total support for PFLP, DFLP, PFLP-GC Palestinian Popular Brigades and the Abu Nidal Organization. Long live Palestine, free and Arab, from the river to the sea, forever!
Russia: Rebuild the USSR.
Venezuela: Unconditional internationalist solidarity with the Bolivarian Revolution against the Jewish-led fascist counterrrevolution.
Syria: Victory to Assad, death to the ZOG.

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« Reply #1301 on: August 08, 2018, 10:18:13 PM »

I'll base mine on the guy right before me.

Labels:
Social: Totalitarian
Economic: Full Communism
Foreign Policy: Racial Nationalist/Proletarian Internationalist/Maoist Third-Worldist
Party: NACAZAI

Social Issues:
Abortion: Total ban in all cases except eugenics, race-mixing and rape. Death penalty for Jew abortionists.
Same-Sex Marriage: f****ts and bull dykes forced back in the closet with "gay pride" activists shoved into Gulags. However, bisexual women are fine if they are hot and make me masturbate. Nazbols realize lesbian erotica is a great propaganda tool.
Drugs: Legalize marijuana, decriminalize users and low level dealers of hard drugs, death penalty for Jewish/capitalist importers and traffickers of hard drugs
Death Penalty: used on pedophiles, the class enemy and various race and class traitors.
Euthanasia: Mandatory for Downies, the hydrocephalic and other dysgenic freaks.
Immigration: all non-White immigration banned and non-Whites repatriated unless they are only here as students, studying tactics for the Marxist overthrow of the neocolonial ZOG puppets in their own countries
Police and Prisons: ACAB.  the police. Destroy the current prison system which is a capitalist torture chamber for the poor and oppressed. Under the dictatorship of the proletariat, Gulags and secret police would be employed liberally for class enemies and class traitors.

Economic Issues:
Minimum Wage: Equal living wages for all workers.
Healthcare: total collectivization of health care, execute all capitalists who try to profit
Trade and Globalization: Unite with revolutionary communists and anti-imperialists all over the world for the destruction of WTO, IMF, World Bank, etc. Overturn the disaster of (((globalization))). Free trade of revolutionary Marxist-Leninist philosophical ideas between Socialist nations.
Campaign Finance: Finance revolutionary Marxist guerilla campaigns all over the world.
Energy: Use the flesh and blood of dead Zionists as fuel to heat the homes of the poor and working class.
Taxes: 100% tax on all capitalists to fund unlimited welfare for poor whites.

Foreign Policy Issues:
Foreign Funding: Fund revolutionary communist subversion and terror as well as bourgeois nationalist Third Positionist anti-imperialist strongmen all over the world.
Israel and Palestine: Off the planet with the fascist Zionist terror state of Israel! Total support for PFLP, DFLP, PFLP-GC Palestinian Popular Brigades and the Abu Nidal Organization. Long live Palestine, free and Arab, from the river to the sea, forever!
Russia: Rebuild the USSR.
Venezuela: Unconditional internationalist solidarity with the Bolivarian Revolution against the Jewish-led fascist counterrrevolution.
Syria: Victory to Assad, death to the ZOG.



My views as well
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« Reply #1302 on: August 08, 2018, 10:21:56 PM »

You're literally calling for genocide. Why should we respect your viewpoints?
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« Reply #1303 on: August 08, 2018, 10:24:09 PM »

I'll base mine on the guy right before me.

Labels:
Social: Totalitarian
Economic: Full Communism
Foreign Policy: Racial Nationalist/Proletarian Internationalist/Maoist Third-Worldist
Party: NACAZAI

Social Issues:
Abortion: Total ban in all cases except eugenics, race-mixing and rape. Death penalty for Jew abortionists.
Same-Sex Marriage: f****ts and bull dykes forced back in the closet with "gay pride" activists shoved into Gulags. However, bisexual women are fine if they are hot and make me masturbate. Nazbols realize lesbian erotica is a great propaganda tool.
Drugs: Legalize marijuana, decriminalize users and low level dealers of hard drugs, death penalty for Jewish/capitalist importers and traffickers of hard drugs
Death Penalty: used on pedophiles, the class enemy and various race and class traitors.
Euthanasia: Mandatory for Downies, the hydrocephalic and other dysgenic freaks.
Immigration: all non-White immigration banned and non-Whites repatriated unless they are only here as students, studying tactics for the Marxist overthrow of the neocolonial ZOG puppets in their own countries
Police and Prisons: ACAB.  the police. Destroy the current prison system which is a capitalist torture chamber for the poor and oppressed. Under the dictatorship of the proletariat, Gulags and secret police would be employed liberally for class enemies and class traitors.

Economic Issues:
Minimum Wage: Equal living wages for all workers.
Healthcare: total collectivization of health care, execute all capitalists who try to profit
Trade and Globalization: Unite with revolutionary communists and anti-imperialists all over the world for the destruction of WTO, IMF, World Bank, etc. Overturn the disaster of (((globalization))). Free trade of revolutionary Marxist-Leninist philosophical ideas between Socialist nations.
Campaign Finance: Finance revolutionary Marxist guerilla campaigns all over the world.
Energy: Use the flesh and blood of dead Zionists as fuel to heat the homes of the poor and working class.
Taxes: 100% tax on all capitalists to fund unlimited welfare for poor whites.

Foreign Policy Issues:
Foreign Funding: Fund revolutionary communist subversion and terror as well as bourgeois nationalist Third Positionist anti-imperialist strongmen all over the world.
Israel and Palestine: Off the planet with the fascist Zionist terror state of Israel! Total support for PFLP, DFLP, PFLP-GC Palestinian Popular Brigades and the Abu Nidal Organization. Long live Palestine, free and Arab, from the river to the sea, forever!
Russia: Rebuild the USSR.
Venezuela: Unconditional internationalist solidarity with the Bolivarian Revolution against the Jewish-led fascist counterrrevolution.
Syria: Victory to Assad, death to the ZOG.



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« Reply #1304 on: August 08, 2018, 10:59:07 PM »

I'll base mine on the guy right before me.

Labels:
Social: Totalitarian
Economic: Full Communism
Foreign Policy: Racial Nationalist/Proletarian Internationalist/Maoist Third-Worldist
Party: NACAZAI

Social Issues:
Abortion: Total ban in all cases except eugenics, race-mixing and rape. Death penalty for Jew abortionists.
Same-Sex Marriage: f****ts and bull dykes forced back in the closet with "gay pride" activists shoved into Gulags. However, bisexual women are fine if they are hot and make me masturbate. Nazbols realize lesbian erotica is a great propaganda tool.
Drugs: Legalize marijuana, decriminalize users and low level dealers of hard drugs, death penalty for Jewish/capitalist importers and traffickers of hard drugs
Death Penalty: used on pedophiles, the class enemy and various race and class traitors.
Euthanasia: Mandatory for Downies, the hydrocephalic and other dysgenic freaks.
Immigration: all non-White immigration banned and non-Whites repatriated unless they are only here as students, studying tactics for the Marxist overthrow of the neocolonial ZOG puppets in their own countries
Police and Prisons: ACAB.  the police. Destroy the current prison system which is a capitalist torture chamber for the poor and oppressed. Under the dictatorship of the proletariat, Gulags and secret police would be employed liberally for class enemies and class traitors.

Economic Issues:
Minimum Wage: Equal living wages for all workers.
Healthcare: total collectivization of health care, execute all capitalists who try to profit
Trade and Globalization: Unite with revolutionary communists and anti-imperialists all over the world for the destruction of WTO, IMF, World Bank, etc. Overturn the disaster of (((globalization))). Free trade of revolutionary Marxist-Leninist philosophical ideas between Socialist nations.
Campaign Finance: Finance revolutionary Marxist guerilla campaigns all over the world.
Energy: Use the flesh and blood of dead Zionists as fuel to heat the homes of the poor and working class.
Taxes: 100% tax on all capitalists to fund unlimited welfare for poor whites.

Foreign Policy Issues:
Foreign Funding: Fund revolutionary communist subversion and terror as well as bourgeois nationalist Third Positionist anti-imperialist strongmen all over the world.
Israel and Palestine: Off the planet with the fascist Zionist terror state of Israel! Total support for PFLP, DFLP, PFLP-GC Palestinian Popular Brigades and the Abu Nidal Organization. Long live Palestine, free and Arab, from the river to the sea, forever!
Russia: Rebuild the USSR.
Venezuela: Unconditional internationalist solidarity with the Bolivarian Revolution against the Jewish-led fascist counterrrevolution.
Syria: Victory to Assad, death to the ZOG.

This one seems to be full Hitler.
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« Reply #1305 on: August 09, 2018, 08:30:36 AM »

I'll base mine on the guy right before me.

Labels:
Social: Totalitarian
Economic: Full Communism
Foreign Policy: Racial Nationalist/Proletarian Internationalist/Maoist Third-Worldist
Party: NACAZAI

Social Issues:
Abortion: Total ban in all cases except eugenics, race-mixing and rape. Death penalty for Jew abortionists.
Same-Sex Marriage: f****ts and bull dykes forced back in the closet with "gay pride" activists shoved into Gulags. However, bisexual women are fine if they are hot and make me masturbate. Nazbols realize lesbian erotica is a great propaganda tool.
Drugs: Legalize marijuana, decriminalize users and low level dealers of hard drugs, death penalty for Jewish/capitalist importers and traffickers of hard drugs
Death Penalty: used on pedophiles, the class enemy and various race and class traitors.
Euthanasia: Mandatory for Downies, the hydrocephalic and other dysgenic freaks.
Immigration: all non-White immigration banned and non-Whites repatriated unless they are only here as students, studying tactics for the Marxist overthrow of the neocolonial ZOG puppets in their own countries
Police and Prisons: ACAB.  the police. Destroy the current prison system which is a capitalist torture chamber for the poor and oppressed. Under the dictatorship of the proletariat, Gulags and secret police would be employed liberally for class enemies and class traitors.

Economic Issues:
Minimum Wage: Equal living wages for all workers.
Healthcare: total collectivization of health care, execute all capitalists who try to profit
Trade and Globalization: Unite with revolutionary communists and anti-imperialists all over the world for the destruction of WTO, IMF, World Bank, etc. Overturn the disaster of (((globalization))). Free trade of revolutionary Marxist-Leninist philosophical ideas between Socialist nations.
Campaign Finance: Finance revolutionary Marxist guerilla campaigns all over the world.
Energy: Use the flesh and blood of dead Zionists as fuel to heat the homes of the poor and working class.
Taxes: 100% tax on all capitalists to fund unlimited welfare for poor whites.

Foreign Policy Issues:
Foreign Funding: Fund revolutionary communist subversion and terror as well as bourgeois nationalist Third Positionist anti-imperialist strongmen all over the world.
Israel and Palestine: Off the planet with the fascist Zionist terror state of Israel! Total support for PFLP, DFLP, PFLP-GC Palestinian Popular Brigades and the Abu Nidal Organization. Long live Palestine, free and Arab, from the river to the sea, forever!
Russia: Rebuild the USSR.
Venezuela: Unconditional internationalist solidarity with the Bolivarian Revolution against the Jewish-led fascist counterrrevolution.
Syria: Victory to Assad, death to the ZOG.

This one seems to be full Hitler.

He seems like a anti-Semitic national Bolshevik.
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« Reply #1306 on: August 11, 2018, 08:36:50 PM »

LABELS
Conservative, nationalist, environmentalist
Party: Prawo i Sprawiedliwość (Law and Justice)

SOCIAL ISSUES
Abortion: Pro-life - abortion should only be allowed if the mother's life is in danger or if the fetus has heavy defects
Same-sex Marriage: Sure
Drugs: Legalize only medical marijuana
Death Penalty: Yes, for murder and the rape of a minor
Gun Control: Psychological checks every 3 years, require valid reason to own a gun
Prostitution: Should be banned
Euthanasia: Against
Immigration: Against Middle Eastern immigration, support immigration mostly from Asia and former USSR

ECONOMIC ISSUES
Minimum Wage: Raise
Healthcare: Support universal healthcare
Trade and Globalization: Anti-globalization
Energy: Support renewable energy

FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES (adjusted for the Polish situation)
Anti-European Union
Anti-Putinist
Pro-American
We should focus on the Visegrad Group and the Three Seas Initiative

CLIMATE CHANGE
Serious issue. Regulate carbon emissions and switch from coal to renewable energy
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« Reply #1307 on: August 13, 2018, 04:56:49 PM »

LABELS/POSITIONS
Social Liberal / Left
Economic Moderate / Centre-left
Foreign Policy Moderate Dove
Voting Preference Liberal Democrat (unenthusiastically)

Social
Abortion Personally not a fan but not my place to tell someone what they can or can't do with their bodies
Same-Sex Marriage Support wholeheartedly
Drugs Legalise marijuana, decriminalise all but the most dangerous of the rest. Treat addiction as a medical problem not a criminal one.
Death Penalty Not an issue here anymore but generally opposed
Prostitution Legalise but with very heavy rules and regulations to prevent abuse
Euthanasia See abortion
Internet Regulation Heavily opposed
Religious Freedom Heavily support but oppose the forcing of any beliefs on others and oppose any attempt to integrate religion into the state
Political Correctness Frequently gets a bit ridiculous but mostly harmless
Pornography Some regulation needed to prevent children seeing it but current UK government policy is OTT to put it mildly
Immigration In favour, while recognising the problems it can cause and that current levels are probably unsustainable. Ideal situation would be to introduce an EU-wide policy on both intra-EU immigration and that from outside that creates a fair balance while compromising free movement as little as practical, but obviously with Brexit this is not gonna happen. I do support making learning English compulsory for all immigrants. If possible, put a heavier emphasis on allowing in qualified migrants who can help in areas where more staff is needed (i.e NHS)
Crime Only social issue I'd consider myself right-wing on. Tougher sentences, more police presence but also recognition much of the crime problem in our cities comes from lack of investment in services.

Economic
Minimum Wage Raise to living wage for each area of the country and tie to inflation
Taxation Avoid rises for lower and middle classes - raise to 50p in the pound for higher earners, close all legal tax loopholes, including those used by corporations such as Amazon. Lower business rates (although not by too much - fine line) in order to reinvigorate the high street and produce jobs and growth. Raise inheritance tax and make it clear that mooching off rich mum and dad is not an acceptable life path.
Healthcare Support the NHS wholeheartedly, but recognise there are problems - cut down administrative costs, take unecessary treatments, or those with dubious records (ahem homeopathy) off the NHS, and potentially involve the private sector to a limited extent. Absolutely MUST be kept free at the point of use.
Education Cut all state funding for private schools except where absolutely necessary and redirect investment in comprehensive schools. Reduce university tuition fees (say to around £4.5k a year) but it's probably too late to abolish them completely now.
Trade Support free trade in principle, but more factors need to be taken into consideration when making deals, although for most of the UK it's probably too late to save the manufacturing sector for instance.
Energy Very pro-green energy. Introduce incentives and tax cuts for green energy and work to replace our dependence on Middle Eastern oil by cutting down on the number of petrol cars and diesel trains as soon as pratical.

Foreign Policy
EU Against Brexit although by no means a europhile - rather I recognise its strengths and weaknesses and think we are, on balance, better off in. Pro-people's vote, mainly because it seems very likely the first vote was at least partially manipulated, and we need to be able to reject whatever dreadful deal the Tories put before us (if at all). If we do end up remaining, major EU reform needs to be spearheaded.
Middle East We need to get out and stay out, not because of any love for pacifism, but because it's clear we're not helping. Reduce support and trade with Saudi Arabia as much as possible (see energy).
Israel/Palestine Two state solution, although we're not going to be able to do much anyway, and nothing is changing until both change their dreadful governments.
Russia Be firm but not antagonising. Work to counter any attempts to sabotage democracy or to undermine our sovereignty, but having a permanently antagonistic relationship between Russia and the west is not good for long-term world peace.

Political Reform
- Turn the UK into a federal state à la Canada, although with much smaller sub-national entities (perhaps based on English counties) so that local issues can stay as local as possible.
- Replace the House of Lords with a Senate, with each federal entity proportionally represented. Elected by Single Transferrable Vote.
- Switch the House of Commons voting system to either Mixed Member Proportional or Regional Lists - in the case of the latter, federal legislatures can deal with more local issues MPs currently deal with.
- Write a fixed constitution linked to either the ECHR or a separate bill of rights
- Retain the primacy of the House of Commons,  but give the Senate the power of veto (which can be overturned with a big enough Commons majority) delay, and committee. Put in the constitution that the Prime Minister must sit in the Commons but any other cabinet members can sit in either house.
- Retain the monarchy. Not ideal politically but it pays for itself in tourist business, and most if not all of the royal family seem pretty harmless.

And finally, just for fun, my representatives rated
Prime Minister Theresa May: E
Terrible, but mostly just a pathetic figure at this point. Saving the F for when Brexit is inevitably botched.
Leader of the Opposition Jeremy Corbyn: F
Just absolutely awful in every way. One of the worst politicians in the UK currently which is pretty remarkable given the competition. Only thing keeping him from an F- is the possibility that he could always, ALWAYS get worse.
Mayor of London Sadiq Khan: C+
Not bad - has had to deal with mass budget cuts, but has made significant improvements in a number of areas. Also a giant improvement on his predecessor but frankly anyone would be.
MP Helen Hayes (Dulwich & West Norwood): D
Pretty invisible MP who pays lip service to her constituency that voted 70% remain but I've seen little from her that convinces me she's not just a Corbyn mouthpiece. Could be much, much, worse though.
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« Reply #1308 on: August 13, 2018, 09:23:43 PM »

Realized I've never done one of these, so I'll do one now! Basing it off Lechasseur's model

Overview:
Social: Progressive
Economic: Center-left
Foreign: Lean dove, strongly globalist
Party Affiliation: Democratic

Social Policy:
Abortion: Formerly pro-life, now pro-choice although it's not an issue I particularly care about.
Same-Sex Marriage: Strongly in favor, always have been (being LGBT myself), also strongly support  stronger anti-discrimination laws and strongly oppose conversion therapy.
Drug Laws: Legalize marijuana, decriminalize all other drug use and encourage more easily accessible treatment for addiction.
Death Penalty: Strongly opposed in all circumstances for ethical reasons. Governments should not have the ability to kill their own citizens.
Gun Control: Relatively neutral on the issue, I support expanding background checks but I oppose weapon and ammunition bans for pragmatic reasons
Religious Freedom: Should never come at the expense of basic civil rights
Affirmative Action: Weakly support, although I think class should be a more important factor than race
Political Correctness: Depends heavily on the specific situation
Euthanasia: Strongly support, people should have the right to die with dignity
Prostitution: Also strongly support, it's going to be a thing either way and legalization is the best way of making sure the industry doesn't harm its workers
Pornography: Don't have a problem with it, absurd censorship laws like those in the UK are just that, absurd
Immigration: I strongly support taking actions to make the legal immigration process significantly more efficient and accessible, if that were the case then illegal immigration wouldn't be as much of a problem. Regulating immigration based on the immigrant's culture or religion is bigotry, pure and simple. The wall are incredibly stupid. I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to more border security but it really depends and a wall is stupid and ineffective. I support passing the DREAM Act and I'm generally in favor of expanding amnesty.

Economic Policy:
Minimum Wage: The federal minimum wage should be raised, although I think going as high as $15 should be done on a state and local basis due to differences in the cost of living. $10 is reasonable on a federal level, and it should be raised more often.
Right to Work: Strongly oppose
Taxation: The wealthy should be more heavily taxed. Taxes should fit the needs of the budget, not the other way around, unpopular as that may be. Flat taxes are incredibly stupid. 
Healthcare: We needed a public option ten years ago at the very minimum. Single payer I'm like 90% sold on and generally support (at the federal level, not the state level) but a public option at the very least.
Education: K-12 education has a whole lot of buck and very little bang. Primary and secondary education in the US needs a massive, top to bottom overhaul that implements actual, modern methods instead of chasing the same old NCLB statistics. I support free community college, but I'm not really sold on the idea of free university, although steps should be taken to make it more affordable.
Free Trade: Support in virtually all cases. Free trade is good for everybody and protectionism hurts everybody.

Foreign Policy and National Security:
Iran: Going back on the Iran deal was a massive blunder. Even beyond the lack of trust that accompanied it, it was a decent deal in the first place. It remains to be seen what the right next step there is.
Syria: I strongly support Rojava and believe Western governments should do the same. I also believe that steps should be taken to encourage Turkey to stop intervening in the region.
Israel/Palestine: Two state solution.
Russia: We need to take a hardline stance on Russia's meddling in our elections and Russian attempts to violate the sovereignty of their neighbors.

Environment:
Climate Change: One of the gravest issues facing our nation and our world today. We needed to be reducing emissions and investing in green technology twenty years ago. Damage control should be one of the top priorities of any government.

Electoral and Political Reform:
Term limits: Oppose for Congress, although I think more fresh blood is usually better.
Electoral College Reform: Support, although I think the underlying problem here is the awful and disproportionate House of Representatives. I'd rather have, say, the Wyoming Rule than abolish the electoral college.
Voter ID: Strongly oppose, voter ID is more often than not blatant voter suppression
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« Reply #1309 on: August 16, 2018, 11:04:13 AM »

Ideology
Social: Center with a libertarian streak
Economic: Social democrat
Foreign Policy: Dovish internationalist
Political Registration: D-NV

Social Policy
Abortion: Pro-choice to viability, but pro-life thereafter. Support Planned Parenthood, support not allowing states to defund it and overturn the Hyde Amendment as long as early term abortion is legal. Support ban on partial birth abortion. Slightly pro-life, favor banning it outright unless life of the mother at viability. Do favor counseling and waiting periods before then tough I don't think it should be criminalized in the same regard to murder prior to viability. Conflicted on Planned Parenthood funding and the Hyde Amendment.

Same-Sex Marriage: Duh.

Transgender Issues: Use the restroom of their gender, not the one they were born with. I find it disgusting that people think they are just making sh**t up when they know they identify as the opposite gender.

Drugs: War on Drugs is a disaster. Legalize, tax, and regulate soft drugs, starting with weed, but one legalization at a time, and keep hard drugs illegal.

Death Penalty: Oppose and pro-lifers who support this are massive hypocrites.

Gun Control: Pro-gun. Close gun show loophole, ban bump stocks, and expand background checks. Ideally I'd ban be open to a high capacity magazine ban but I think in the era of polarization, such ban at the federal level would lead to a black market forming, and not worth it.

Affirmative Action: Generally against.

Prostitution: No

Euthanasia: Oppose on moral grounds (pro-life).

Immigration: Keep the border secure (which believe it or not is working given the recent decline in net immigration), deport criminals who are here illegally, citizenship to all illegals if they aren't criminals and pay taxes in 10 years, but I'd be willing to compromise for no citizenship and just legalization. Reform and regulate ICE but do not abolish it.

Police Issues/Black Lives Matter: Pro-BLM and oppose police brutality and hold officers accountable. Oppose mandatory minimums and for profit prisons. Abolish cash bail.

Free Speech/Political Correctness: Pro-free speech, but the GOP are massive hypocrites on this. They are so quick to call college students at California who shut down right wing speakers SJW (correctly), but anytime a Democrat says something un-American, the have a thin skin and get defensive, basically becoming right wind SJW's. Political Correctness is necessary in order to protect politics from staying civil, and oftentimes "telling it how it is" is a code word for racism on the right

School Prayer: Status quo.

Muslim Ban: No.

PATRIOT ACT/NSA Spying: Need a warrant


Economic Issues
Minimum Wage: Raise 50 cents per year to whenever it converges with $11 indexed to inflation.

Social Security: Lift the taxable income cap, and cut the income tax rates to help pay for Medicare for All. Do not support expanding the program. And no Social Security is not broke contrary to whatever the GOP wants you to think.

Healthcare: Support Medicare for All, similar to Bernie's bill, but phased in over a longer period of time, and it should be no more comprehensive than the current Medicare program, at least for now. Second choice would be Medicare Extra, but in order for that to work, employer essential health insurance would have to fall apart. Also support drug imports from Canada, whose markets are already tightly regulated, and allow the federal government to negotiate drug prices with drug companies. Open to a multi-payer approach but a public option is not the answer.

Globalization/Trade: Generally Strongly oppose, unless we have a product we can't make elsewhere and visa versa. Oppose TPP, support re-negotiation of NAFTA. Support tarrifs in certain circumstances but we have to ensure that we don't end up in a lose-lose trade war.

Deficit/Debt: Debt doesn't matter. Deficits don't if there's a recession, but do if the economy is good and all Americans are prospering.

Campaign Finance Reform: Limits on donations to all campaigns, congressional campaign committees, and state/national parties, with guaranteed public funding. Gut SuperPacs and corporate Pac money. Also limit how much you could self-fund your campaign.

Unions: Massively pro-labor. Get rid of the Taft-Hartley Act that created right to work, which was created by the Republicans in attempt to undercut unions. Support card check and oppose efforts to crack down on union formation by employers.

Energy: Pro-solar. Pro-wind. Pro-nuclear. Anti-coal.

Job Creation: A second new deal. Infrastructure redevelopment for not just better roads, bridges, and highways, but better sewer and drainage systems, as well nationwide broadband. Also need tighter building codes and larger seawalls to withstand natural disasters like hurricanes.

Education: Support common core, make in-state college free (with some regulations), universal childcare, support full day kindergarten, and universal pre-K. Supported increases in teaching salary, except for elective subjects. Fairly opposed to charter schools

Taxes: Raise marginal tax rates on wealthy when appropriate. Would like to see the top 1% pay as much as they did in an effective tax rates to prior to Reagan. Also support a carbon tax and a Robin Hood tax much like we had through the 1960s. Repeal the Bill Clinton capital gains tax cut, Trump's income tax cuts, Bush's tax cuts, expand earned income tax credit, hijack the corporate tax rate back up to 30%. Strongly support raising the estate tax. Oppose UBI and would rather see a shorter workweek to combat automation than incentives for half the population to not work.


Financial regulation: Support re-instating glass stegall, and am very wary of attempts to de-regulate Wall Street, paday lenders, banks, and credit card companies. Strong proponent of anti-monopoly laws. Support government run banks but for small loans only and with strict regulation.


Other economic issues: Paid family medical leave by law (12 weeks for maternity leave 8 weeks for paternity leave). 10 days of vacation time by law. Support a job guarantee as a replacement for unemployment benefits at or slightly below minimum wage (pending on whether work requires training) with some caveats, like one should be able to get fired for underpreforming the job, and age restrictions.

Foreign Policy
Middle East: Get out. None of the countries unilaterally have attacked us. Fully support the Iran Deal. Oh, and quit funding Saudi Arabia as they continue to massacre civilians in Yemen and show respect to international law. I'm not a pacifist, however. If there's a genocide or illegal occupation, aid, and if necessary, military should be used, but you have to go through the UN first and show respect for international law. There's a reason we're considered by others to be the number one threat to world piece. I also think this idea that regime change will lead to democracy all over the place is insane. A new regime in Syria would not blossom into a democracy over night.  

Syria Refuges: Support Obama era policies but we can only take so many and we have to ensure we maintain the proper vetting.

Israel/Palestine: Extremely conflicted but favor two internationally recognized states with 1967 border (and no the Palestine state should not be free of Jews Hamas). I'm no fan of Israel, but Palestine is worse, but there's no good one side. Oppose BDS, since pressure is needed on Palestine too.

North Korea: Favor detente basically

Russia: Supported sanctions for electing melding, and annexing Crimea. But we should avoid war with them unless they attack us unilaterally.

Climate Change
Anthropogenic Climate change is real and is naturally occurring. Support increasing funding towards climate change, with an increased emphasis on study aerosols. Oppose efforts to privatize NOAA. Support Paris Climate Agreement but it needs to be enforceable. Also increased money towards weather forecasting, most notably to improve the US based Global Forecast System and upgrade phased array radar.

Electoral Reform
Electoral College Reform: Support to avoid the smaller states from being screwed over by urban areas but expand the size of the house.

Gerrymandering: Oppose. Support independent commissions with guidelines on not splitting up COI for both congressional and legislative seats.

Term limits: Oppose for legislative seats, support for executive seats, largely because I believe in there is a happy medium between both arguments.

Voter ID: Oppose.

Instant Run-off Voting: Support

Primaries: Let the states decide, but all states should hold the presidential and statewide office primaries on the same day, eliminating the urge for caucuses.

Statehood: Make D.C., Guam, and Puerto Rico as states, along with maybe the NMI and the Virgin Islands (or combine them with PR/Guam). Let American Samoa be its own nation or be annexed by Western Samoa.

Voting age: Let states decide on whether it should be lowered to 16. Leave it at 18.

Updated.

Had a bit of change of heart on some issues lately, so updated.

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« Reply #1310 on: August 16, 2018, 11:40:56 PM »

Literally just copy/pasting what everyone else is doing, credit without credit right here to whoever made this

Overview:
Social: Conservative with many caveats
Economic: Conservative with many caveats
Foreign: Dovish, fair trader
Party Affiliation: Republican

Social Policy:
Abortion: Illegal after week 9, week 20 in cases of rape, and once labor starts in the case of threat to a mother's life. We need to defund planned parenthood and pour a lot of money into fixing adoption and foster care.
Same-Sex Marriage: Always have been an ally, we need to allow LGBT adoption in the USA. No one should be forced by the government to marry anyone they don't want to, but they should regardless. The Bible says to love your neighbors and strongly advocates for the golden rule, so I think personally that churches should marry anyone who wants to be married.
Drug Laws: We need legal Marijuana and drug safe havens.
Death Penalty: We need a Constitutional amendment making it illegal for the US Government to kill people as legal punishment.
Gun Control: We need to continue to allow gun manufacturing at home and should encourage gun safety, advertising classes for safe gun use.
Religious Freedom: Should never be infringed by the government unless it harms someone else
Affirmative Action: It is well documented that this actually has decreased the rate of minority graduation, thus keeping many in a bad situation. Also needs to be ended on moral grounds.
Political Correctness: This should not be a political issue. Socially, we can discuss the pros and cons of political correctness. I think it's had a strong negative effect on social intercourse and has kept from many political issues from being raised.
Euthanasia: Supportive of Death with Dignity in most cases
Prostitution: We need to make it legal to be a prostitute and illegal to pay for prostitution, which will penalize the real wrongdoers and deal a significant blow to human trafficking.
Pornography: The UK sucks
Immigration: We need a northern and southern border wall and boats on both coasts. We also should adopt an Ellis Island immigration policy with improved family reunification.

Economic Policy:
Minimum Wage: Reduce to $7 and keep consistent with inflation.
Right to Work: Opposed, unless unions aren't doing their jobs
Taxation: We need a 15% flat tax for everyone who makes $25,000 or more a year and we need a 25% tax on stock gains
Healthcare: Some public option is okay for the poor and elderly, but otherwise a free market is the best choice.
Education: We need to educate on useful life skills and offer good education on the trades so everyone can leave high school and get a job.
Free Trade: We need to always match exactly the tariffs that other countries have with us and negotiate an elimination of tariffs.

Foreign Policy and National Security:
Iran: Get the hell away, it's got nothing to do with the US
Syria: Get the hell away, it's got nothing to do with the US
Israel/Palestine: Two state solution but Jerusalem is a part of both nations
Russia: Get the hell away, it's got nothing to do with the US unless they hack our elections, then let's kick their asses

Environment:
Climate Change: Exists, is caused by man, but it's not worthwhile economically to try and fix this quickly. We need geothermal, hydroelectric, and to stop using oil and coal.

Electoral and Political Reform:
Term limits: Oppose except for President and state offices.
Electoral College Reform: We should adopt a proportional state vote system (AKA Minnesota votes 47% Clinton and 46% Trump, Clinton gets 2 electoral votes for winning and the other 8 are split proportionately, so in this case Clinton would get 6 to Trump's 4)
Voter ID: Everyone should get a free state ID when they turn 18 that they can use to vote. Drivers license, military ID, and passport should be usable as well.
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« Reply #1311 on: August 22, 2018, 11:58:51 PM »
« Edited: August 23, 2018, 12:08:01 AM by Use Your Illusion »

1. Gun legislation will do NOTHING to fix the root cause. The issue is that people wish to hurt others. How often do we see killers give signs of intent to harm before they do it. They say it in passing, post it to social media, etc. Sit down. Talk to them. They are disenfranchised and want to HURT others. Taking guns and passing legislation over millions of people in direct antithesis of our 2nd Amendment rights does not help this young man/woman. Let's take the guns. Hell revoke the 2nd Amendment. And they're gonna go straight for locker bombs and arson because they want to HURT people. This is a human problem at a social level. Stop worrying about passing laws and start worrying about how to help those disenfranchised enough to want to cause harm.

2. Roe vs. Wade cannot be overturned. Again like the gun issue this is social issue at the individual human level. The single greatest reason for illegal activity is not caring it is illegal. Desperate women and young girls who neither understand the life cycle or appreciate the gravity both can and will take it upon themselves to terminate their unwanted pregnancies. The question is not "How do we save the babies?" it is "How do we reduce the rate of unwanted pregnancy?"

Reform our education system to demonstrate that benefits of safe sex, contraception and abstinence. Teach our children that regardless of where you stand on the termination of pregnancy, you in take measures that otherwise would result in another human being. I do not support abortion at a moral level but I am a man and I am not entitled to tell any person what to do. Reform at the local levels to encourage adoption practices and better fund the state to care for these children who otherwise would have been terminated. And lastly and most importantly we must focus to empower women against the sexual advances of men. Hell teach them how to defend themselves because we have to start somewhere and we have to start NOW. Identify those at risk, identify those who have been unwillingly raped and want nothing more than to rid themselves of a baby that is not there. Find ways to bring these men to justice, to keep these women safe from further harm and to provide refuge. Encourage them not to conduct an abortion and instead give life a chance and a decision that was not hers to make does not have to stay with her.

If we make changes as a culture we can and will strike the root at the core and the issue will resolve itself. The only way we are going to stop abortion is if we teach that life is beautiful and (if I may borrow from Colin Moulton) to fill the condom and not the van.

3. I fully support military budget reform. I am not one to speak of how each dollar is spent but I can surely and confidently say that the near $2 billion a day budget (from last year) can be streamlined. We outspend everyone in the world and until I know why I will continue to push for it. I do not advocate cutting our forces, I simply advocate that we be more intelligent about how we are doing things right now.

4. I support the right of same sex couples to be married so long as churches are given equal right to refusal. Same sex couples are are protected under the ideals of "Life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" and they are endowed the right to marriage because this is America and we made it so people can be free individuals to exercise these rights whether other people like it or not. But marriage to me (and the church) is an uncompromising institution of God. Freedom cuts both ways. A priest is not damned to wed two men/women because of law. The onus is on the couple who wishes ceremony to find one to wed them. While a hindrance, this is an exercise of true freedom. They will be allowed to marry and enjoy the same rights as anyone else and the individual integrity of the churches will be allowed to be exercised. With the blessing of law and a willing member of the church may any two men and women live in happiness til death do they part while any member of the church may say they did what they felt was right.

5. The current economic model is not sustaining and drastic changes need to be made. I call for a very slow and very moderate return to former economic policies as to allow businesses to adjust. Raising taxes is not a sexy position to take but we once upon a time kept up with wages with strong unions, taxed higher according to income and created the most prosperous nation in the world and we did it without any of it being called entitlement, socialism or wealth redistribution. A state of dynastic wealth amongst the few who hoard it in offshore accounts or live in other places as to avoid proper taxation is not the mark of a strong capitalist society. It works best when power is given to the consumer and their business drives other businesses to become better than one another for better quality and prices. The solutions are few and even less easy but the first step is to define what wealthy actually is anymore. And we must clearly define the goals of this strategy. The only solid contingent is that we bring these changes slowly. Over decades even. If you're gonna kick it old school then at least be smart about it.

Long story short we have 38 million people living in poverty, that many on food stamps and so many billions of dollars tied up into the few and the proud that regular taxation may as well be deemed theft. All this to me says that what we are doing today is neither working nor going to help reduce any of these numbers. It is time to start investing once again in the American worker, the American farmer and the American consumer and not the businesses who have continued to chronically under-employ them and find new ways every year to cut corners.

I fully and truly understand why President Reagan started his trend. He was the ultimate advocate of keeping the hand of government out of everything. He wanted to keep taxes low and let capitalism make us great again. I mean seriously.... what a great idea. Needless to say it worked. But it has now gotten out of hand and we have seen he evaporation of the middle class and the birth of the working poor. Again this is a broad issue without clearly defined goals. It is a process that must be fixed together. But I can tell you certainly that more of the same will not get us out.

All things in moderation people. Let's figure out a way to swing the pendulum back a little more. Perhaps there is indeed a better way than what I have discussed.

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« Reply #1312 on: August 23, 2018, 10:17:21 AM »

Haven't done this for a while, and I feel like my views have shifted a tad.

SUMMARY
Social: Center left
Economic: Center right
Foreign: Rather interventionist
Party Affiliation: Republican

SOCIAL POLICY
Abortion: I support Roe v. Wade and generally fall under the umbrella of "pro-choice."  However, I have serious moral qualms with abortion, and I am incredibly turned off by a lot of "liberal" rhetoric on the issue (this issue brings out some of the worst of tribalism).  I absolutely support some type of third trimester ban (except for the big three exceptions), though I would defer to someone with some more medical knowledge than I have to determine the cutoff (which will, of course, inevitably be somewhat arbitrary).
Same-Sex Marriage: I support it, no exceptions.
Drug Laws: I think states should be able to decide RE: marijuana, but I think drug use in general should be decriminalized, with the punishment falling on the large scale dealers.  No kid should face jail time or have their job prospects shattered for being one of the many college kids who comes across drugs and trying it/being that unlucky that they get caught.
Death Penalty: In general, I support its existence ... I have a hard time articulating this view, as there is no perfect "rule" of when to use it that I can land on.  However, I do strongly believe that it is an appropriate punishment for certain cases.
Gun Control: I am generally quite skeptical.  I am sympathetic to the Second Amendment and to the arguments that defend not altering it too much.  I would support common sense measures like background checks and waiting periods, but anything else is Constitutionally dubious and won't help the problem much.
Religious Freedom: Follow the precedent of past civil rights legislation and the Interstate Commerce Clause.
Affirmative Action: I support it for SES, but I am quite skeptical of affirmative action on the basis of race, specifically for minority groups with higher-than-average SES (like Asian-Americans).
Political Correctness: Try not to offend people ... there isn't a "law" that can make a meaningful impact here, IMO.  Rational people can see where the line of common sense is.
Euthanasia: Though I have some real reservations about this morally, I have not arrived at a reason to oppose people's right to die with dignity.  My uncomfortably with the state systematically condoning the killing of innocents (even if the innocents have asked for it) is slightly outweighed by sympathy for the patients who desire that type of ending.
Prostitution: This is a "live and let live" position that I strongly disagree with.  While a prostitute should never be in legal trouble for having to resort to that, prostitution must absolutely remain illegal.  Forgetting for a second the moral decay (unironic use) that would ensue, it enables the sex trade.
Environment: I am in favor of measures to preserve and protect our environment.  While regulations to do both can and should be balanced with policies that encourage the business community and private sector to thrive, punishment for breaking environmental regulations needs to be severe, and incentives for green policies should be generous.
Immigration: It is impractical (especially financially) to deport illegal immigrants that are already here, with the exception of ones that are identified as having committed minor crimes (ones who commit major crimes should be detained here).  However, a mark of a civilized country is to have border security that at least enables you to know who and what are entering your borders.  You owe that to your citizens, period.  I would support a pathway to citizenship for those already here (and amnesty for the crime of immigrating here illegally) and an intentional effort to secure our borders.  Most of my issue with more "conservative" thinking on this issue is with unwelcoming rhetoric that phrases the desire for border security in an unfair and unsavory light ... it's common sense to monitor immigration into your country and to make sure there is security.  How that somehow got associated with any type of "backward" thinking is absurd.

ECONOMIC POLICY
Minimum Wage: Have a federal minimum wage around $10.00 and let cities or states adopt higher ones if they desire to.  Index it to inflation, of course.
Right to Work: I'm rather conflicted, but I lean toward support.
Taxation: Current rates are fine, especially the new corporate ones.
Regulation: Regulation in general targets the wrong sort of companies and fails to truly alter the practices of the companies who acted irresponsibly in the first place.  We obviously need regulations on businesses, but in general what we have now has too much red tape that only ends up passing costs to consumers and lowering wages.
Healthcare: I would support a slightly more conservative version of Obamacare.  Most of my issue with liberal healthcare proposals is that they are too "one size fits all."  It seems to be an obsession of liberals to make everything uniform and under government regulation, but subsidies and whatnot for lower income individuals are a much better idea.  My other major issue with Obamacare is that it was intentionally designed to create a demand for government-run healthcare by making the fine for not offering healthcare less than the cost of providing it to your employees ... it's literally the worst of both worlds.
Free Trade: While human rights conditions and whatnot need to be considered, free trade is the best trade.

FOREIGN POLICY
I have a meeting coming up anyway (Tongue), but I also wanted to keep this one vague since it is a vague issue.  I generally believe that, post-World War II, we have assumed a responsibility (for better or for worse) as the leader and prime example for the free world and democratic West; a critic might call this the "world's police."  We obviously can't get involved in every conflict everywhere, but it is both in our interest and in the world's interest for the Untied States to be a leader in promoting democracy and human rights across the world.  Sometimes, this is inevitably going to mean military involvement.
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« Reply #1313 on: August 23, 2018, 01:23:23 PM »


That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.
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« Reply #1314 on: August 23, 2018, 02:27:29 PM »


That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.


LMAO


Hillary wanted to increase taxes, supported a more leftist version of Obamacare, increase regulations  and opposed Right to Work


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« Reply #1315 on: August 23, 2018, 02:41:49 PM »
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That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.


LMAO


Hillary wanted to increase taxes, supported a more leftist version of Obamacare, increase regulations  and opposed Right to Work

Arguing whether you want a more conservative or more liberal version of Obamacare isn't really that huge of a difference. He obviously doesn't care much about right to work either way since the description was only a single line and he was "conflicted" and only "leaned" in support of it, so I don't see why that would matter.

Taxes and regulations is about all there is that he has substantive disagreements with her on. Compare to the current Republican Party leader who the vast majority of Republican voters worship and the vast majority of Republican politicians enthusiastically support, where he disagrees with them on:

Abortion, same sex marriage, drug laws, gun control, religious freedom, political correctness, euthanasia, environment, immigration, minimum wage, healthcare, free trade, and foreign policy.
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« Reply #1316 on: August 23, 2018, 02:57:47 PM »


That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.


LMAO


Hillary wanted to increase taxes, supported a more leftist version of Obamacare, increase regulations  and opposed Right to Work

Arguing whether you want a more conservative or more liberal version of Obamacare isn't really that huge of a difference. He obviously doesn't care much about right to work either way since the description was only a single line and he was "conflicted" and only "leaned" in support of it, so I don't see why that would matter.

Taxes and regulations is about all there is that he has substantive disagreements with her on. Compare to the current Republican Party leader who the vast majority of Republican voters worship and the vast majority of Republican politicians enthusiastically support, where he disagrees with them on:

Abortion, Same sex marriage, drug laws, gun control, religious freedom, political correctness, euthanasia, environment, immigration, minimum wage, healthcare, free trade, and foreign policy.


LMAO GOP politicians are more in favor of free trade than Dem politicians. It just that the Tarrif power was handed to the President a long time ago so there isnt much congress can do. Look at the TPP vote from 2015

Foreign policy: Again most GOP politicians are more interventionist than Dems are


Political Correctness: Um Dems favor using government action on this issue, he clearly said he wouldnt support that.

Gun Control: Rick Scott passed similar measures

Drug Laws: Trump himself favors letting the states decide

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« Reply #1317 on: August 23, 2018, 03:07:21 PM »

Sorry I ruined the thread, LOL.
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« Reply #1318 on: August 23, 2018, 03:07:48 PM »


That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.


LMAO


Hillary wanted to increase taxes, supported a more leftist version of Obamacare, increase regulations  and opposed Right to Work

Arguing whether you want a more conservative or more liberal version of Obamacare isn't really that huge of a difference. He obviously doesn't care much about right to work either way since the description was only a single line and he was "conflicted" and only "leaned" in support of it, so I don't see why that would matter.

Taxes and regulations is about all there is that he has substantive disagreements with her on. Compare to the current Republican Party leader who the vast majority of Republican voters worship and the vast majority of Republican politicians enthusiastically support, where he disagrees with them on:

Abortion, Same sex marriage, drug laws, gun control, religious freedom, political correctness, euthanasia, environment, immigration, minimum wage, healthcare, free trade, and foreign policy.


LMAO GOP politicians are more in favor of free trade than Dem politicians. It just that the Tarrif power was handed to the President a long time ago so there isnt much congress can do. Look at the TPP vote from 2015

Foreign policy: Again most GOP politicians are more interventionist than Dems are


Political Correctness: Um Dems favor using government action on this issue, he clearly said he wouldnt support that.

Gun Control: Rick Scott passed similar measures

Drug Laws: Trump himself favors letting the states decide

The vast majority of Republican voters now support tariffs because Trump does. And it's not really worth a damn if Republican politicians say they oppose tariffs but don't do anything about it because they love their strongman god emperor and don't want to risk his wrath. A vote from 2015 isn't relevant to the present day. In case you haven't noticed, Trump has made the GOP sell whatever was left of their soul and principles in exchange for power.

There's really no evidence of that foreign policy claim. It's not 2004 anymore. The god emperor, who again I must stress has the support of >90% of Republican voters, enjoys letting the hellholes destroy themselves and loves cuddling up to Russia and Putin now while bashing NATO and any other American allies.

I guess you missed the "don't be a dick" portion of his political correctness section, which the god emperor and an increasing number of GOP politicians violate on a daily basis.

Rick Scott is a single person. The vast majority of Republicans, including the god emperor, oppose background checks and waiting periods. If they didn't, they would've passed by now.
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« Reply #1319 on: August 23, 2018, 03:12:00 PM »

^ LOL, IceSpear I think you know you're wasting your time. Tongue  Anyway, this is the last spam I'll drop on this thread:


That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.

The bolded is undeniable.  So, it comes down to what I would personally prefer, and even now in the age of Trump, the best Republicans >>>>>>>>>>>>> the least bad Democrats, regardless of how the entire parties shake out.  At least to this RINO.
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« Reply #1320 on: August 23, 2018, 03:24:06 PM »

^ LOL, IceSpear I think you know you're wasting your time. Tongue  Anyway, this is the last spam I'll drop on this thread:


That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.

The bolded is undeniable.  So, it comes down to what I would personally prefer, and even now in the age of Trump, the best Republicans >>>>>>>>>>>>> the least bad Democrats, regardless of how the entire parties shake out.  At least to this RINO.

Yeah, I know I am, lol. But this entire forum is a waste of time, so whatever. Tongue

What's your take on post #1351? Unless I'm missing something here, I can only assume you weight taxes/regulation extremely heavily and everything else very lightly for you to be a persistent Republican in this day and age. I would think that voting for Hillary would've caused you to rethink your party affiliation (not necessarily to become a Democrat, but at least not be a Republican.) Of course, I realize you have historical/non policy based attachments to the party as well, exactly how much do those factor into your decision?
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« Reply #1321 on: August 23, 2018, 03:27:32 PM »


That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.


LMAO


Hillary wanted to increase taxes, supported a more leftist version of Obamacare, increase regulations  and opposed Right to Work

Arguing whether you want a more conservative or more liberal version of Obamacare isn't really that huge of a difference. He obviously doesn't care much about right to work either way since the description was only a single line and he was "conflicted" and only "leaned" in support of it, so I don't see why that would matter.

Taxes and regulations is about all there is that he has substantive disagreements with her on. Compare to the current Republican Party leader who the vast majority of Republican voters worship and the vast majority of Republican politicians enthusiastically support, where he disagrees with them on:

Abortion, Same sex marriage, drug laws, gun control, religious freedom, political correctness, euthanasia, environment, immigration, minimum wage, healthcare, free trade, and foreign policy.


LMAO GOP politicians are more in favor of free trade than Dem politicians. It just that the Tarrif power was handed to the President a long time ago so there isnt much congress can do. Look at the TPP vote from 2015

Foreign policy: Again most GOP politicians are more interventionist than Dems are


Political Correctness: Um Dems favor using government action on this issue, he clearly said he wouldnt support that.

Gun Control: Rick Scott passed similar measures

Drug Laws: Trump himself favors letting the states decide

The vast majority of Republican voters now support tariffs because Trump does. And it's not really worth a damn if Republican politicians say they oppose tariffs but don't do anything about it because they love their strongman god emperor and don't want to risk his wrath. A vote from 2015 isn't relevant to the present day. In case you haven't noticed, Trump has made the GOP sell whatever was left of their soul and principles in exchange for power.

There's really no evidence of that foreign policy claim. It's not 2004 anymore. The god emperor, who again I must stress has the support of >90% of Republican voters, enjoys letting the hellholes destroy themselves and loves cuddling up to Russia and Putin now while bashing NATO and any other American allies.

I guess you missed the "don't be a dick" portion of his political correctness section, which the god emperor and an increasing number of GOP politicians violate on a daily basis.

Rick Scott is a single person. The vast majority of Republicans, including the god emperor, oppose background checks and waiting periods. If they didn't, they would've passed by now.


You need 2/3 of congress to override trump tarrifs. There is enough populist dems and a minority of republicans who can stop that . By the way way more Republicans voted for TPP than dems did .

Again you talk about Voters , I talk about politicians and  They overwhelmingly voted to sanction Russia , and More of them were hawkish in Syria than Democrats.

Lmao most Republican politicians  aren’t dicks either only Trump really is . If they are dicks so are the Dems and really only Trump stands out as very bad on that .


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« Reply #1322 on: August 23, 2018, 04:39:12 PM »

^ LOL, IceSpear I think you know you're wasting your time. Tongue  Anyway, this is the last spam I'll drop on this thread:


That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.

The bolded is undeniable.  So, it comes down to what I would personally prefer, and even now in the age of Trump, the best Republicans >>>>>>>>>>>>> the least bad Democrats, regardless of how the entire parties shake out.  At least to this RINO.

Yeah, I know I am, lol. But this entire forum is a waste of time, so whatever. Tongue

What's your take on post #1351? Unless I'm missing something here, I can only assume you weight taxes/regulation extremely heavily and everything else very lightly for you to be a persistent Republican in this day and age. I would think that voting for Hillary would've caused you to rethink your party affiliation (not necessarily to become a Democrat, but at least not be a Republican.) Of course, I realize you have historical/non policy based attachments to the party as well, exactly how much do those factor into your decision?

Yes, a good enough description.  I also don't believe the Democratic Party will ever represent a truly appropriate vehicle for policies that I want in the future.  Even if it is a "better fit" now than the GOP (something I disagree with but can understand the thinking behind), I am highly skeptical that as I grow older (and especially as Boomers die off and Millennials get more power) the Democratic Party will ever resemble my politics in majority, especially for a sustained period of time. 

Hypothetical Future GOP >>>>>>>>>>>>> Modern Democratic Party > Modern GOP, if you will.
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« Reply #1323 on: September 10, 2018, 08:21:11 AM »

Social issues:
- Pro-Choice
- Pro-SSM
- Pro-Gun (however I do support certain regulations, raise the age to buy a rifle to 21 and mandate 90 day waiting period for gun purchase)
- Pro-Criminal Justice Reform
- Pro-Marijuana
- Pro-Immigration Reform

Economic:
- Fiscal responsibility
- Multipayer Healthcare is a good idea
- Capitalist
- Cut aid to tyrannical/oppressive countries
- Free trade

Foreign Policy:
- Pro-Israel
- Hawk
- Anti-Russia
- Anti-China
- Anti-Saudi
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« Reply #1324 on: September 11, 2018, 04:14:06 PM »

Abortion: uncertain, lean against (after 10 weeks or so), but I find most vocally pro life men are empathy free scum.
Drugs: legalize less dangerous drugs, decriminalize all drugs. Greatly expand access to treatment programs
Guns: don't really think about it
Immigration: Pretty much anyone should be allowed to immigrate. We should make sure to understand who's coming in and going out
National ID system: support, but don't make it easy to spy on people, etc with it.
Criminal justice reform: support, justice should be rehabilitative
LGBTQ+ rights: support. Not accepting a Trans child is abuse. Enbies should be accepted. You're a s##t person if you pretend ace/aro people don't exist.
Content warnings: support, and the abuse of the word "triggered" is disgusting
Women's rights:have far to go
Racial issues:ditto
Child abuse:cps is a disgraceful failure, taking away poor kids for little reason and failing to stop abuse in higher class families (as well as pretending emotional abuse doesn't exist)
Autistic people:should not be pathologized and demonized.
Ablism: is depressingly common in modern society. Disabled people deserve respect and consideration
Vaccines and medical care: should be mandatory. Denying your child medical care because of religious reasons especially is abuse and should result in calls to cps
Prostitution: buying should be criminal, sellers should be respected(it's immoral to buy but not to sell)

Everyone deserves Healthcare, there is no right to own things that aren't for personal use (eg land), asceticism is good, we should seek communism, meritocracy means good people get less because of lower natural ability. Protectionism in a developed economy is bad.

I lost steam.
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