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« Reply #100 on: March 20, 2005, 07:23:07 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.

Everyone you dislike is tied in with those evil corporations, right?

Do you know how much in kickbacks Bevilacqua and Rigali get from corporate/GOP sponsors?  I'm not disclosing my sources, but they get plenty.  They live in the lap of luxury and meanwhile they are tools of the GOP.  They get paid off to preach this pro-life bullsh**t and put guilt trips on workign class people like you and my dad included.

Right. They are Pro Life for the corporate luxuries. Roll Eyes

My next point was they are well meaning people who have no clue.  

Suuuuuuuure!

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« Reply #101 on: March 20, 2005, 07:24:17 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.

Everyone you dislike is tied in with those evil corporations, right?

Do you know how much in kickbacks Bevilacqua and Rigali get from corporate/GOP sponsors?  I'm not disclosing my sources, but they get plenty.  They live in the lap of luxury and meanwhile they are tools of the GOP.  They get paid off to preach this pro-life bullsh**t and put guilt trips on workign class people like you and my dad included.

Right. They are Pro Life for the corporate luxuries. Roll Eyes

 However, the abortion argument is one of the best poltiical tools the GOP has used since the 1970s in siphoning Catholic voters from their own economic interests.

Maybe people vote like that because they really feel that strongly about abortion? No, it couldn't be. It's that evil Church, brainwashing people again! What a joke.
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« Reply #102 on: March 20, 2005, 07:26:45 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't most Catholics Democrats prior to the 1970s?  Yes, I know some improved their lot economically, but to go from 85-90% of Catholics to a virtual dead heat has some factors involved.
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« Reply #103 on: March 20, 2005, 07:28:47 PM »
« Edited: March 20, 2005, 07:32:15 PM by Keystone Phil »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't most Catholics Democrats prior to the 1970s?  Yes, I know some improved their lot economically, but to go from 85-90% of Catholics to a virtual dead heat has some factors involved.

Ok well could it be that they feel more strongly about abortion now and side with the GOP?
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« Reply #104 on: March 20, 2005, 07:30:51 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't most Catholics Democrats prior to the 1970s?  Yes, I know some improved their lot economically, but to go from 85-90% of Catholics to a virtual dead heat has some factors involved.

Ok well could it be that they feel that they feel more strongly about abortion now and side with the GOP?

Well most are stupid!
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« Reply #105 on: March 20, 2005, 07:31:48 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't most Catholics Democrats prior to the 1970s?  Yes, I know some improved their lot economically, but to go from 85-90% of Catholics to a virtual dead heat has some factors involved.

Ok well could it be that they feel that they feel more strongly about abortion now and side with the GOP?

Well most are stupid!

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« Reply #106 on: March 20, 2005, 07:31:56 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't most Catholics Democrats prior to the 1970s?  Yes, I know some improved their lot economically, but to go from 85-90% of Catholics to a virtual dead heat has some factors involved.

Ok well could it be that they feel that they feel more strongly about abortion now and side with the GOP?

Well most are stupid!

Great argument!
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« Reply #107 on: March 20, 2005, 08:01:17 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.

Now you're starting to sound like opebo.  Man, I didn't think you were this far out.   Are you sure you're not smoking something today, dude?
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« Reply #108 on: March 20, 2005, 08:16:24 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.

Now you're starting to sound like opebo.  Man, I didn't think you were this far out.   Are you sure you're not smoking something today, dude?

Far out???  It's simply my opinion.
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« Reply #109 on: March 20, 2005, 08:17:29 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.

Now you're starting to sound like opebo.  Man, I didn't think you were this far out.   Are you sure you're not smoking something today, dude?

Far out???  It's simply my opinion.

That's like saying any extreme position/comment isn't far out because it's someone's opinion.
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« Reply #110 on: March 20, 2005, 08:21:52 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.

Now you're starting to sound like opebo.  Man, I didn't think you were this far out.   Are you sure you're not smoking something today, dude?

Far out???  It's simply my opinion.

That's like saying any extreme position/comment isn't far out because it's someone's opinion.

Yeah me and opebo have far out views.  OK
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« Reply #111 on: March 20, 2005, 08:31:54 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.

Now you're starting to sound like opebo.  Man, I didn't think you were this far out.   Are you sure you're not smoking something today, dude?

Do you consider me far out?
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« Reply #112 on: March 20, 2005, 08:39:05 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.
Now you're starting to sound like opebo.  Man, I didn't think you were this far out.   Are you sure you're not smoking something today, dude?
Far out???  It's simply my opinion.
That's like saying any extreme position/comment isn't far out because it's someone's opinion.
Yeah me and opebo have far out views.  OK

You and opebo are the only two people I've ever met who oppose Meghan's Law.
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« Reply #113 on: March 20, 2005, 08:41:03 PM »

Even I support Meghan's Law.
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« Reply #114 on: March 20, 2005, 08:46:37 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.
Now you're starting to sound like opebo.  Man, I didn't think you were this far out.   Are you sure you're not smoking something today, dude?
Far out???  It's simply my opinion.
That's like saying any extreme position/comment isn't far out because it's someone's opinion.
Yeah me and opebo have far out views.  OK

You and opebo are the only two people I've ever met who oppose Meghan's Law.

So does Allyson Schwartz.  Know why?  Because child molesters depending on severity should be imprisoned accordingly and when free, they're free.  In severe cases such as a 40 year old and a 7 year old, it should be life.  Anything under 12 should be life in prison anyway.  12-14 should be severe, but not life because sexual development is in early stages.  15 to 17 should be a slap on the wrist.
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« Reply #115 on: March 20, 2005, 09:11:03 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.

Now you're starting to sound like opebo.  Man, I didn't think you were this far out.   Are you sure you're not smoking something today, dude?

Do you consider me far out?

Of course I do.  You knew that already.  But anybody who makes their arguments without nastiness or personal attacks is OK by me.  You do it that way most of the time, but not all.
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« Reply #116 on: March 20, 2005, 09:24:46 PM »

So does Allyson Schwartz.  Know why?  Because child molesters depending on severity should be imprisoned accordingly and when free, they're free.  In severe cases such as a 40 year old and a 7 year old, it should be life.  Anything under 12 should be life in prison anyway.  12-14 should be severe, but not life because sexual development is in early stages.  15 to 17 should be a slap on the wrist.

No when a child molestor or rapists is released, they should have a tracking chip implanted in their body.  They should have to declare on their house, car, and person what their crime was and the government should distribute information about that person to their neighbors. Anyone who sexually assaults or rapes another person has forfeited any privacy rights they had. 
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« Reply #117 on: March 20, 2005, 09:30:49 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.
Now you're starting to sound like opebo.  Man, I didn't think you were this far out.   Are you sure you're not smoking something today, dude?
Far out???  It's simply my opinion.
That's like saying any extreme position/comment isn't far out because it's someone's opinion.
Yeah me and opebo have far out views.  OK

You and opebo are the only two people I've ever met who oppose Meghan's Law.

So does Allyson Schwartz. 

Oh but wait a minute. I thought Schwartz supported Megan's Law? That's what her commercial said. We all knew she voted to reduce Megan's Law but she insisted that she supported it. Thanks for proving that she has lied.
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« Reply #118 on: March 20, 2005, 09:40:51 PM »

Every time you jerk off, you're preventing that sperm from becoming a human.

Any every time you don't have sex, you are preventing that sperm from becoming human, if you are a male.  Every time a woman menstrates, she is preventing that egg from becoming human. 

I'm not really seeing the point.
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« Reply #119 on: March 20, 2005, 10:09:06 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.
Now you're starting to sound like opebo.  Man, I didn't think you were this far out.   Are you sure you're not smoking something today, dude?
Far out???  It's simply my opinion.
That's like saying any extreme position/comment isn't far out because it's someone's opinion.
Yeah me and opebo have far out views.  OK

You and opebo are the only two people I've ever met who oppose Meghan's Law.

So does Allyson Schwartz. 

Oh but wait a minute. I thought Schwartz supported Megan's Law? That's what her commercial said. We all knew she voted to reduce Megan's Law but she insisted that she supported it. Thanks for proving that she has lied.

I can see registering as a sex offender, but that's it.  I agree with that.  But requiring someone to advertise it is wrong.  I support stricter sentencing for sex offenders though.
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« Reply #120 on: March 20, 2005, 10:10:06 PM »

The "pro-life" movement is nothing more than the corporate elite manipulating religion to their benefit.  They care not about the sanctity of life, but keeping people perpetually poor.  It is about restricting the choices of the underclasses.  The corporate marketing gurus in the GOP know that poor/working class people are essentially going to have sex regardless of the decision in Roe v. Wade.  Being "pro-life" also has the added benefit of getting mislead working class people on their side over such a petty issue.
Now you're starting to sound like opebo.  Man, I didn't think you were this far out.   Are you sure you're not smoking something today, dude?
Far out???  It's simply my opinion.
That's like saying any extreme position/comment isn't far out because it's someone's opinion.
Yeah me and opebo have far out views.  OK

You and opebo are the only two people I've ever met who oppose Meghan's Law.

So does Allyson Schwartz. 

Oh but wait a minute. I thought Schwartz supported Megan's Law? That's what her commercial said. We all knew she voted to reduce Megan's Law but she insisted that she supported it. Thanks for proving that she has lied.

I can see registering as a sex offender, but that's it.  I agree with that.  But requiring someone to advertise it is wrong.  I support stricter sentencing for sex offenders though.

Schwartz lied. Thanks for avoiding that specific point. (That's what my whole post was about.)
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« Reply #121 on: March 20, 2005, 10:12:02 PM »

Allyson Schwartz supports registering offenders.  I'm questioning the effectiveness of the law with regards to maximum punishment.
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« Reply #122 on: March 20, 2005, 10:16:40 PM »

Allyson Schwartz supports registering offenders.  I'm questioning the effectiveness of the law with regards to maximum punishment.

According to your earlier comments, Schwartz actually opposed Megan's Law. Either your comments are wrong or she lied.
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« Reply #123 on: March 20, 2005, 11:20:15 PM »

More local Pennsylvania politics (groan)
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« Reply #124 on: March 20, 2005, 11:27:44 PM »

More local Pennsylvania politics (groan)

You know, you could just continue the debate without whining about local PA politics. I've never ecountered a bigger bunch of crybabies in my life.
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