Hillary's hit list

[RogueBeaver]

I'd have been surprised if there wasn't one. Clintons have always had their unique brand of intraparty warfare. Among those who topped the '08 list: Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Rocky, McCaskill, Leahy, Van Hollen.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

RIP Vince Foster

[NewYorkExpress]

If Vince Foster was on any incarnation of this "list" than Hillary can kiss the Oval Office goodbye...

[illegaloperation]

That explains this:

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/hillary-clinton-2016-claire-mccaskill-92959.html

[bedstuy]

If Vince Foster was on any incarnation of this "list" than Hillary can kiss the Oval Office goodbye...

Come on, we all know that Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster to keep him quiet about Whitewater, killed Ted Kennedy in revenge for endorsing Obama and is planning the demise of various other people.  We've just moved on and are excited about breaking that tallest, hardest glass ceiling of all!

[RogueBeaver]

That explains this:

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/hillary-clinton-2016-claire-mccaskill-92959.html

That was reported in Game Change, not new at all.

[Mr. Morden]

I'd have been surprised if there wasn't one.

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Classy.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

I've said a lot for the express purpose of riling up the Hillary supporters on this forum, but I am completely serious when I say that the Clintons' only ideology is attaining and holding onto power.

[Oakvale]

BREAKING: The Clintons are petty and vindictive. News at 11.

[DrScholl]

I'm more concerned with who is on Chris Christie's hit list, I'm sure there are plenty of people he wants to get back at and is willing to misuse his authority to do so. It's not like the Clintons are the only ones with this sort of list, anyone with a high profile in politics has an enemies list.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

That's my girl!

[DINGO Joe]

Sounds pretty tame compared to an Atlas moderator.

[Donerail]

If Vince Foster was on any incarnation of this "list" than Hillary can kiss the Oval Office goodbye...

Come on, we all know that Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster to keep him quiet about Whitewater, killed Ted Kennedy in revenge for endorsing Obama and is planning the demise of various other people.  We've just moved on and are excited about breaking that tallest, hardest glass ceiling of all!

Kyrsten Sinema/Keith Ellison '16?

[bedstuy]

If Vince Foster was on any incarnation of this "list" than Hillary can kiss the Oval Office goodbye...

Come on, we all know that Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster to keep him quiet about Whitewater, killed Ted Kennedy in revenge for endorsing Obama and is planning the demise of various other people.  We've just moved on and are excited about breaking that tallest, hardest glass ceiling of all!

Kyrsten Sinema/Keith Ellison '16?

Nice idea, but Hillary Clinton would have them killed if they ran in 2016. 

Seriously, this idea that Hillary Clinton holds grudges is unfair.  I think we all hold grudges a little bit and certain political players on the Clinton's level trade on loyalty.  But, Hillary Clinton served in the administration of a bitter rival for the nomination.  Plus, she forgave her husband for his infidelity.  That seems like evidence that she can move on from personal conflicts and put the good of the country first.  Implying that Hillary Clinton is somehow petty and emotional with no evidence to go along with it is fairly sexist.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

There is evidence backing it, and I fail to see how the criticism is "sexist" in this context.

[DINGO Joe]

There is evidence backing it, and I fail to see how the criticism is "sexist" in this context.

Evidence backing what?  What exactly has she done to any of the people on the "list'?

[bedstuy]

There is evidence backing it, and I fail to see how the criticism is "sexist" in this context.

There's evidence backing that fact that someone made a spreadsheet of superdelegates that ranked their helpfulness to the Clinton campaign.  I don't see the problem here.  My point is that it's sexist to overreact to Hillary Clinton acting like any other politician because she's a woman.  I'm not accusing anyone of being sexist, this type of criticism just raises the question.

[rpryor03]

Is this supposed to supriseme?

[Mordecai]

Not that surprising, but still very interesting to read. I reckon though that she's a much stronger candidate now than she was six years ago and should be thankful that Obama decided to help build up her credibility.

[Beet]

Thanks for being a voice of sanity in here, bedstuy. The fact that a couple of people in the basement of HRC's 08 campaign were keeping track of which super delegates supported whom should not be news. Besides, the idea that Vince Foster was killed by anyone is absurd. No one less than Ken Starr investigated the matter and found it a suicide. In fact it was the right's absurdity over this birtherism-of-the-90s that helped tip David Brock to defect from the right. If anyone killed Vince Foster it was the WSJ. The man was suffering from depression and getting ripped apart by the right wing. Then after he kills himself because he can't take the bullying, instead of feeling shame they take his death and turn it into a ludicrous conspiracy theory. That anyone who calls themselves a Democrat could entertain such ideas is horrifying.

[Oakvale]

1) Snowstalker is obviously trolling about Vince Foster.

2) Claiming anyone who criticises Hillary Clinton's sociopathic personality is a sexist is not the slam dunk argument-winner you think it is. Unsurprising that the Clinton gang will pass this off as "acting like any other politician", though. Maybe if that other politician is Richard Nixon.

[Kevin]

1) Snowstalker is obviously trolling about Vince Foster.

2) Claiming anyone who criticises Hillary Clinton's sociopathic personality is a sexist is not the slam dunk argument-winner you think it is. Unsurprising that the Clinton gang will pass this off as "acting like any other politician", though. Maybe if that other politician is Richard Nixon.

I agree I def don't think this behavior is above the Clinton's and as the article strongly suggested they had direct input into creating this Nixonesque enemies list.

Then again can you really blame the Clinton's for doing this? As they really went all out to help some of the individuals on this list both personally and political  in the past (such as Sen. McCaskill and Rep. Capps) only to have the door shut in their face as a thank you. Tbh I'd be pretty pissed off too if that happened to me.

[Lurker]

2) Claiming anyone who criticises Hillary Clinton's sociopathic personality is a sexist is not the slam dunk argument-winner you think it is. Unsurprising that the Clinton gang will pass this off as "acting like any other politician", though. Maybe if that other politician is Richard Nixon.

Do you have any evidence that would point to Clinton actually being "sociopathic" or is this just a random negatively loaded term? It is easily one of the most misused words on the internet.

As for this article, calling it a "hit list" is utter bullsh**t. It does not point to even one case of the Clintons having taken revenge on any of these "traitors" in any way. In other words, the article is of the  usual Politico standard.

[Oakvale]

2) Claiming anyone who criticises Hillary Clinton's sociopathic personality is a sexist is not the slam dunk argument-winner you think it is. Unsurprising that the Clinton gang will pass this off as "acting like any other politician", though. Maybe if that other politician is Richard Nixon.

Do you have any evidence that would point to Clinton actually being "sociopathic" or is this just a random negatively loaded term? It is easily one of the most misused words on the internet.

As for this article, calling it a "hit list" is utter bullsh**t. It does not point to even one case of the Clintons having taken revenge on any of these "traitors" in any way. In other words, the article is of the  usual Politico standard.

Her complete lack of fear when landing at an airport under sniper fire is a classic sign of a sociopath.

[Mister Mets]

There is evidence backing it, and I fail to see how the criticism is "sexist" in this context.

If it turned out Joe Biden had a similar list, I'm pretty sure it would get coverage.