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« on: March 17, 2005, 01:18:32 AM »

This brings us to the traditional start of popular election results.  Three more western states switch to popular election.  In the three elections the number of popular election states had swung from 10:9 to 15:9 to 18:6.  The 6 newest states used popular election and Massachusetts and Connecticut switched.  A contested election and the notion that Clay and Adams stole the election from Jackson may have led to more complete records of the votes, and the modern belief that popular election of electors began in 1824.

Trivia: John C Calhoun received 182 of the 261 electoral votes for Vice President.

Popular Election: ME 9, NH 8, MA 15, RI 4, CT 8, NJ 8, PA 28, MD 11, VA 24, NC 15, KY 14, TN 11, OH 16, IN 5, MS 3, IL 3, AL 5, and MO 3, total 190.

Legislature: NY 36, DE 3, SC 11, GA 9, VT 7, and LA 5, total 71.

Maine 9 electors.

7 electors were chosen from congressional districts, and 2 were elected statewide.  Adams electors won all the contests against Crawford electors.  The only close race was in the 2nd CD which contained most of Cumberland County (Portland) which was 53% to 47%.

New Hampshire 8 electors.

Only Adams votes are recorded.

Massachusetts 15 electors.

Adams ran against an unpledged slate which was originally to be made up of 8 Federalist and 7 D-R candidates.  In several towns, 7 Federalists were substituted.  As a curiousity, William Walker was on both slates and more or less unanimously elected.

The unpledged slate only broke 20% of the Adams-Crawford vote in Essex, Suffolk, Franklin, and Berkshire counties.

Rhode Island 4 electors.

Adams received over 90% against "opposition" electors.

Connecticut 8 electors.

Adams received 79% of the Adams-Crawford vote.  Crawford's top county was Hartford with 40%.

New Jersey 8 electors.

Jackson squeaked by Adams, with a small level of support for Crawford (52%, 42%, and 6%).  Adams carried Cape May, Essex, Middlesex, and Salem counties (note Union, Passaic, and Morris counties did not exist at this point, so some of their territory was probably included in Essex.

Pennsylvania 28 electors.

An overwhelming victory for Jackson: Jackson 76%, Adams 12%, Crawford 9%, Clay 4%, as Jackson has a majority in all counties.  There appears to be a faitly strong local vote for individual electors not necessarily associated with the candidate as some electors receive a few hundred votes in some counties, and zero in others.

Maryland 11 electors.

Maryland continues to choose its electors by districts, including 2 districts that choose 2 electors.  Statewide the vote is Jackson 44%, Adams 43%, Crawford 10%, and Clay 2%, but the districts split Jackson 7, Adams 3, and Crawford 1.  Clay electors only ran in the westernmost ED, while Crawford electors ran in the 4 southernmost EDs, 2 on each side of Cheasapeake Bay.

Crawford carried the middle district on the Eastern Shore (Dorchester, Caroline, and a sliver of Talbot counties).  Jackson only had 4% here.  Adams won the two eastern shore EDs to the north or south, and the southernmost district on the western shore.  A split of the Adams/Crawford vote in the ED containing Montgomery and Prince Georges counties allowed a plurality Jackson win with 41%.

Virginia 24 electors.

Favorite son Crawford carried the state with 54%, to 26% for Adams, 18% for Jackson, and 3% for Clay.

Adams had a majority in SW Virginia (Bedford, Campbell, and Giles); Coastal Virginia (Elizabeth City (now Hampton), Lancaster, Norfolk (county and boro), and Princess Anne (now Virginia Beach); and present-day Western Virginia (Greenbrier, Hampshire, Pendleton, Pocahantas, Randolph, and Tyler).

Jackson had a majority in Southwest Virginia especially concentrated near the Cumberland Gap (Lee, Patrick, Russell, Scott, and Tazewell); west of the Blue Ridge including the Shenadoah Valley (Boteourt, Frederick, and Rockingham); and present-day West Virginia (Brooke and Monongalia).

Clay had a majority in Ohio County, the northern tip of present day West Virginia.  Half of his votes came from this county.

North Carolina 15 electors.

Jackson 57%, Adams 43%, with extremely lopsided votes in some counties.  Adams strongest area was generally in the Piedmont, especially along the Virginia border.

Kentucky 14 electors.

Kentucky continued to use its multi-seat districts, electing 5 electors from 2 districts, and 4 from 1 district.  Clay wins all by a fairly consistent margin (69-75%) over Jackson.

Counties carried by Jackson were: Far West: Calloway, Graves, Hickman; Ohio River: Campbell, Greenup, and Jefferson; and Southeast: Harlan, Perry, Morgan and Pike.

Note that fewer counties existed, so the western counties carried by Jackson included the entire area west of the Tennessee River, while the southeastern counties covered the entire extend of the (present day) Virginia-Kentucky border.

Tennessee 11 electors.

Electors chosen from single member districts.  Adams electors ran in two EDs, Clay electors in two EDs, and Crawford electors in one ED. Most of the contests were among Jackson supporters (20 candidates).

Ohio 16 electors (an increase from 8 in 1820).

Clay receives a plurality of the state in a 3-way contest: Clay 39%, Jackson 37%, Adams 25%.

Jackson carries in the southwest  (Adams, Brown, Butler, Clermont, Darke, Hamilton, Montgomery, Warren); In the east along the Ohio River (Columbiana, Harrison, Jefferson);
and in east cental (Coshocton, Perry, and Wayne).

Adams carries in the southest (Athens, Meigs, Washington); northeast (Ashtabula, Geauga, Portage, Trumbull); North (Huron, Sandusky, Seneca); and central (Delaware, Marion, and Union).

Indiana 5 electors.

Indiana switches to popular election for the first time, with Jackson carrying the state.  Jackson 47%, Clay 34%, and Adams 20%).

Clay's area of strength was the Wabash valley and an area in central Indiana roughly southwestward from Indianapolis.

Mississippi 3 electors.

Jackson wins 66% to Clay 34%, carrying all counties.

Illinois 3 electors.

Electors are chosen from 3 electoral districts.

1st District: Adams 49.5%, Crawford 29.3%, Clay 16.0%, Jackson 2.3%.  This is generally northern and western Illinois, with the southern tip being St Clair county.

2nd District: Jackson 43.6%, Clay 34.8%, Adams 16.4%.  Generally easter Illinois along the Wabash river.  Jackson wins the district on the basis of a strong showing in Gallatin Couny at the mouth of the river.

3rd District: Jacksons 41.6%, Adams 21.1%, Crawford 18.2%, and Clay 16.2%.  Southern tip of the state along the Ohio and Mississippi rivers.  Jackson piles up massive 80%+ margins along the Ohio River, but is almost shut out along the Mississippi (3% Monroe, 12% Randolph).

Alabama 5 electors.

Alabama switches to popular election for its 2nd presidential election.  Jackson handily wins, Jackson 69%, Adams 18%, and Crawford 12%.

Missouri 3 electors.

Missouri also switches to popular election from 3 electoral districts.

1st District, western Missouri (west from about Jefferson City), Clay 65%, Jackson 35%.

2nd District, northeastern Missouri (north From St Louis), Clay 60%, Jackson 22%, and Adams 16%.

3rd District, southeastern Missouri (south from Jefferson county), Clay 48.4%, Jackson 46.9%, and Adams 4.7%.  Jackson almost wins the idstrict on the basis of strong support from Cape Girardeau.
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2005, 01:32:42 AM »

This guy has books with governor elections and congressional elections too. Did you know that Massachusetts had one year governor terms for quite a while, and New York started off with 3 year governor terms, in 1777?
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2005, 03:06:15 AM »

This guy has books with governor elections and congressional elections too. Did you know that Massachusetts had one year governor terms for quite a while, and New York started off with 3 year governor terms, in 1777?
The Federalist, in arguing for the 2-year term for representatives, notes that while most states had 1-year terms for their legislature, and a couple with 6-month terms, that a 2-year term was reasonable for Congress because it would take longer for representatives to become familiar with the issues confronting the country.  And besides, one state did have 2-year terms (I think it was Maryland).
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2005, 04:50:37 PM »

What a mess this election turned out to be.  Am I right in thinking this was the only one decided by the House so far?  I'm too lazy to check, and I don't remember any others.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2005, 04:52:45 PM »

What a mess this election turned out to be.  Am I right in thinking this was the only one decided by the House so far?  I'm too lazy to check, and I don't remember any others.

Stupid technicality in 1800.
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2005, 04:58:05 PM »

What a mess this election turned out to be.  Am I right in thinking this was the only one decided by the House so far?  I'm too lazy to check, and I don't remember any others.

Stupid technicality in 1800.

Oh yeah.  Thank heavens for the 12th Amendment.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2005, 02:09:06 AM »

Oh yeah.  Thank heavens for the 12th Amendment.
Had the 12th amendment not been enacted, and had the electors in 1824 simply cast their 2 distinct votes for President and Vice President, as two non-distinguishing votes, then John C Calhoun would have been elected President, and Jackson would have become Vice President.
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2005, 10:00:03 PM »

And then how would Calhoun have handled the issue of nullification?
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