Canada General Discussion 1.5: The Countdown Begins

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I thought NDG was a bunch of yuppies. How'd he even get a quarter of the vote?

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Looks like Prentice is actually running for PC leader.  Go figure.

Only way to stop Wild Rose is to elect Red Tories like Prentice. Worked with Redford. It scares any centrist voters away from voting Liberal or NDP.

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New AB poll: Wildrose 50, Progs 21.

Wow. And the Liberals are in fourth!

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New AB poll: Wildrose 50, Progs 21.

Wow. And the Liberals are in fourth!

Nothing surprising, in the aftermath of Redford resignation. It will tighten later, through.

The Liberals in 4th is surprising. You'd think they'd be challenging the Tories for 2nd considering.

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lol

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/rob-ford-takes-leave-as-new-drug-video-emerges/article18354671/

And we now have another Rob Ford video, which was shot in sisters basement, and involves the Toronto mayor taking a drag from a copper colored pipe.

Ford is now taking a "leave of absence"

God help Toronto and God help Canada if he is re-elected

We've already discussed this in the Ontario municipal elections thread

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The slider thing at the top of the election atlas website has spots for 1979-2011, but only has maps for 1988-2011. Weird. Hopefully we get maps soon

No, there's maps there now!

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The slider thing at the top of the election atlas website has spots for 1979-2011, but only has maps for 1988-2011. Weird. Hopefully we get maps soon

No, there's maps there now!

No, there isn't. It's the just the scale which is broken. 1988 is 1979, 1993 is between 1980 and 1984, etc...

Works for me, he does have maps for 1979-1984 now

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Unfortunately my riding has voted Grit since time immemorial, 3 terms of Bill Hamilton aside.

NDG? It's NDP now, right?

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Classy

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Some of the BC ridings from 1979 seem both familiar and strange, like Cariboo-Chilcotin stretching all the way down to Howe Sound past Squamish.   My first thought was that it sort of made sense, since the Sea-to-Sky highway wasn't built until the 1960s, and there was only ferry and rail access to Squamish, but then I remembered that Cayoosh Pass, the route north of that region, wasn't motorable until the 1970s. The only other way not-by-rail in or out of that region is by some shifting logging roads may not have existed in those days.

I'm amazed how few ridings suburban Toronto had. Brampton isn't even worth an entire riding, only two for Mississauga and only one riding for the whole of Vaughan, Markham etc.

Look at the results in some of those ridings too. Some ridings had 100000+ voters.

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I think the 1993 result in York North must be the record. Bevilacqua won 71,500 votes in his own right.

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That's what they did in this recent redistribution. Many suburban ridings in BC and Ontario will begin their lives underpopulated.

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RIP Farley Mowat. Died today at 92, didn't know he was sill alive.

Headline from 1990. Trudeau says all Grit candidates must be pro-choice.

Were Liberals all supposed to be pro choice in 1990? How'd that work out for them

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West Nova, BC

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West Nova, BC

Can't believe I missed that one

Also, West Nova & Central Nova are stupid riding names.

Yes, they are. What would you call them?

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What about Yarmouth-Digby-Annapolis Valley ?

I would also go with Pictou-Antigonish-Eastern Shore for Central Nova.

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British Columbia Southern Interior.

Any riding named after a person.

Names with more than three places in its title.

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For NB SW, I would suggest: Charlotte-Saint John Valley
For BC SI: Kootenay-Okanagan or Kootenay-Similkameen or Kootenay-Boundary-Okanagan/Similkameen

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For Quadra: Why not Quilchena-Point Grey? (for the provincial ridings)

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I hate appending "University" to riding names. But you're right about Quilchena. I couldn't find much referring to the area as that.

This may be getting too long for you, but what about "Vancouver West End--Point Grey"?


ETA: Actually, "Vancouver-Point Grey" might be inclusive enough, since there are areas in the south of the riding called Point Grey as well.

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I'm kind of curious what they'll do in in Calgary next redistribution. It's big enough that they could start using riding names other than Calgary_______ but the city grew so fast, there aren't really any alternative place names to use. There's no equivalent to Etobicoke or Scarborough for Calgary is there?

Not really, no. It's incredibly difficult to name ridings in Calgary, because the city isn't really divided into large regions with a unique names (even Edmonton as Mill Woods). Rather, the city is divided up into hundreds of small little neighbourhoods.

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I hate appending "University" to riding names. But you're right about Quilchena. I couldn't find much referring to the area as that.

This may be getting too long for you, but what about "Vancouver West End--Point Grey"?


ETA: Actually, "Vancouver-Point Grey" might be inclusive enough, since there are areas in the south of the riding called Point Grey as well.

Cardinal-Direction geography is tricky in Vancouver, and any name including a cardinal direction is probably in no way a symmetrical concept with a similar name including a different cardinal direction.  'The West End' refers to the portion of the downtown peninsula NW of Burrard St. and SW of Georgia St, which is part of Vancouver-Centre.

Point Grey refers to two things- the headland on which UBC sits (a term which is not frequently encountered for lack of need to use it), and the rather tony neighborhood between Blanca St, 16th Avenue, and Alma St. This neighborhood is quite small compared to Vancouver Point Grey, and smaller still next to Vancouver Quadra, though the headland does itself make a good name. 

What's wrong with -University?

Every major city in Canada has a university, there is nothing unique about using it in a riding name.

As for Point Grey, there is a golf course in the southern part of Vancouver Quadra named Point Grey, which is why I thought it would be a good name.

[Hatman 🍁]

I hate appending "University" to riding names. But you're right about Quilchena. I couldn't find much referring to the area as that.

This may be getting too long for you, but what about "Vancouver West End--Point Grey"?


ETA: Actually, "Vancouver-Point Grey" might be inclusive enough, since there are areas in the south of the riding called Point Grey as well.

Cardinal-Direction geography is tricky in Vancouver, and any name including a cardinal direction is probably in no way a symmetrical concept with a similar name including a different cardinal direction.  'The West End' refers to the portion of the downtown peninsula NW of Burrard St. and SW of Georgia St, which is part of Vancouver-Centre.

Point Grey refers to two things- the headland on which UBC sits (a term which is not frequently encountered for lack of need to use it), and the rather tony neighborhood between Blanca St, 16th Avenue, and Alma St. This neighborhood is quite small compared to Vancouver Point Grey, and smaller still next to Vancouver Quadra, though the headland does itself make a good name. 

What's wrong with -University?

Every major city in Canada has a university, there is nothing unique about using it in a riding name.

I think it would be ok if the riding used a specific university name that wasn't just a place name. i.e. Toronto-Ryerson would be ok but Toronto-UofT would not.

Maybe, also having the name "University Heights" for York West would be acceptable.

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