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Question: Which best expresses your position?
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Yes
 
#2
No
 
#3
Yes for married couples
 
#4
No, but the morning-after pill is
 
#5
birth control should be illegal
 
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« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2005, 08:49:59 AM »

Birth Control means knowing when to push!
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« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2005, 03:46:12 PM »

His stance on this is largely responsible for the AIDS problem in Africa and poverty there and South America.

The only people responsible for the spread of AIDS and poverty in Africa/South America are those that refuse to listen to either side (those that a

dvocate abstinence or birth control).

Phil... just a quick question. Do you think the Catholic Church needs to change it's position on condoms/birth control? I mean both of those have got to be better than abortion right?

It might be better but I still don't find it acceptable.

You had better!
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« Reply #52 on: August 26, 2005, 04:49:07 PM »

His stance on this is largely responsible for the AIDS problem in Africa and poverty there and South America.

The only people responsible for the spread of AIDS and poverty in Africa/South America are those that refuse to listen to either side (those that a

dvocate abstinence or birth control).

Phil... just a quick question. Do you think the Catholic Church needs to change it's position on condoms/birth control? I mean both of those have got to be better than abortion right?

It might be better but I still don't find it acceptable.

You had better!

Ok...thank you?

Please refrain from giving me any advice on sex/dating/whatever since I am currently and probably always have been in better shape in that area than you. That was my arrogant comment of the day. Thanks.
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« Reply #53 on: August 26, 2005, 08:06:23 PM »

I believe birth control is healthy, moral, beneficial, and reduces the need for abortions.

you got just about an 80% NO on this one nclib.  certainly not surprising.  I'd have been surprised if an overwhelming majority didn't think controlling births is moral.  moral is basically being concerned with the difference between right and wrong, amoral, then, is inconsideration (or ignorance) in this regard, and immoral is deliberate disregard for this concern.  So the underlying question is:  is it wrong to limit one's offspring?  Given that foods increase algebraically (1,2,3,4,...) and population increases geometrically (1,2,4,8,...) one can assume that unchecked population growth will lead to a condition of overpopulation and widespread poverty.  The extreme rightist position (call it amoral, libertarian, Marie Antoinette, whatever you like) is to simply realize that starvation is the one problem that takes care of itself:  the starved die; end of problem.  The extreme leftist (call it authoritarian, Marxist, whatever you like) position is to force population control (whether by coercive measures, including pills and abortion, as in modern China, or unofficial but extreme pressure not to have sex till after you're married resulting in widespread sexual frustration as in modern China).  Clearly, we are not in the habit of calling Leftist-authoritarian societies like China "moral".  Thus, the more interesting corollary to your poll is that apparently "moral" isn't the exact philosophical antithesis to "immoral"   At least as regards birth control.  Or is it?  That is, are societies justified, morally, in forcing birth control?  We are an individualistic society, as are all Western societies, but much more extremely so, even to the point of debating environmental and population control measures, whereas other countries dominated by White Folk leap immediately to authoritarian measures favoring ecology and/or environment over private business matters.  But not all societies in the world are so individualistic.  In fact, the most populous and second most populous nations, representing about half the world's population, and many other societies as well, collectively representing a solid majority of humans, are not individualistic, but collectivist.  This question doesn't even arise, and the notion of "moral" doesn't even get debated in considerations of birth control.  But, given that white people have for over 600 years claimed racial, religious, and moral superiority over the rest of the world (and we're still doing it!), it's natural that such a question would arise.  Again, I am not pushing White Man's Guilt, or European Man's Shame, or anything like that.  You know from my many posts that, I'm not into that, but it's a simple statement of fact that our individuality allows, maybe even encourages consideration of such questions.  So, just how far does your sense of "morality" go?  Is it okay, in a world approaching 7X10^9 people, with enough resources for only 8^10^9 people, is it time to adopt some collectivism and force the measure of birth control?  After all, your straw poll, clearly and not surprisingly, indicates that it's not "immoral".  But just how "moral" is it, after all?
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