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Available only in the first 10 weeks, 100% government-funded (pro-abortion)
 
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Available up to the point of viability (25-28), no public funding (pro-abortion)
 
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Available only in the first 10 weeks, 100% government-funded (anti-abortion)
 
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Available up to the point of viability (25-28), no public funding (anti-abortion)
 
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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: November 06, 2013, 04:46:47 PM »

I ask because I was surprised to realize that the time limitations to abortion are actually a lot more stringent in France (12 weeks, apparently) than they are in the US (at least, in jurisprudence). On the other hand, in France and most European countries, to the extent that an abortion is legal, the public health insurance program will pay for all or most of it.

I thought this could be an interesting debate, helping to unveil the existence of very different rationales among both supporters and opponents.

Option 1 for me.
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2013, 05:35:21 PM »

Option 3. But in an ideal world I would not see abortions funded by the government.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2013, 07:17:06 PM »

Option 2.
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2013, 07:19:03 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2013, 07:37:30 PM »

If I had to choose probably third option.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2013, 07:54:04 PM »

Option one.
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2013, 08:19:31 PM »

Pretty difficult, but option 4 I guess.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2013, 09:52:42 PM »

The 10 week option would prevent the most abortions, so I'll go with that even though the government funding is reprehensible.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2013, 10:18:43 PM »

Available only in the first 10 weeks, 100% government-funded (meh-abortion)

The 10 week option would prevent the most abortions, so I'll go with that even though the government funding is reprehensible.

Not certain if this was what you meant, but a 10 week limit wouldn't prevent most abortions, tho it would prevent more than a viability limit.  Only about 1 in 5 abortions is performed after the tenth week as measured from last menstruation. Measure from date of conception and that rate goes down to 1 in 9 abortions.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2013, 10:47:27 PM »

Available only in the first 10 weeks, 100% government-funded (meh-abortion)

The 10 week option would prevent the most abortions, so I'll go with that even though the government funding is reprehensible.

Not certain if this was what you meant, but a 10 week limit wouldn't prevent most abortions, tho it would prevent more than a viability limit.  Only about 1 in 5 abortions is performed after the tenth week as measured from last menstruation. Measure from date of conception and that rate goes down to 1 in 9 abortions.

The number I always heard was 30% after 10 weeks. What you said is what I meant. I think the 10 week limit would reduce abortion more than 0 government funding would.
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2013, 11:38:31 PM »

Available to the point of viability with no funding.

To go with the other option would be like promising to never write anything critical of the government as long as the government paid for you to have a nice new MacBook to write non-critical things on.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2013, 12:44:17 AM »

Lots of people fine with forcing poor women to have kids against their will in this thread.

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2013, 01:25:17 AM »

Free abortion on demand (doesn't hate poor people, women).
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2013, 02:50:06 AM »

Option 3. But in an ideal world I would not see abortions funded by the government.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2013, 06:20:23 AM »

Option 1, though I would very much prefer if it were up to about 24 weeks.
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2013, 06:20:30 AM »

Free abortion on demand (doesn't hate poor people, women).

Anti-abortion (doesn't like child murderers)

See, I can be an ignorant hack too!
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2013, 07:30:45 AM »

Free abortion on demand (doesn't hate poor people, women).
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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2013, 10:38:03 AM »

Free abortion on demand (doesn't hate poor people, women).

Anti-abortion (doesn't like child murderers)

See, I can be an ignorant hack too!

When conservatives show the same concern for children who have been born as they do for hypothetical, un-born children, then maybe you'll have a point.
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2013, 10:48:28 AM »

Option 2, though I would prefer the procedure be covered by social insurance.
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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2013, 11:49:19 AM »

Option 2.
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2013, 11:50:43 AM »

Option 1.

Antonio, are you sure it's not 16 week in France?
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2013, 11:56:07 AM »

Option 1.

Antonio, are you sure it's not 16 week in France?

Wikipedia says it's 12.
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2013, 12:05:08 PM »

Lots of people fine with forcing poor women to have kids against their will in this thread.

Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed by the pro-choicers here.
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2013, 12:19:02 PM »

The 10 week option would prevent the most abortions, so I'll go with that even though the government funding is reprehensible.

No, it would prevent the most legal abortions. You'd still have women going to Mexico and dying of kidney failure from improperly-made black market abortifacients. But let's continue to restrict abortion so that fewer abortions are attempted. Let's have a War on Abortion. After all, look at the War on Drugs. That worked out great.
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2013, 12:34:52 PM »

Option 1.
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