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Question: WHO WILL REALLY WIN?
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Bob Casey Jr.
 
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Ricky Santorum
 
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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2005, 08:08:10 PM »

The important thing to note is, Santorum, ideologically is closer to the philly burbs than casey is...

they might both be far out...but Santorum's to the moon, Casey...Mars.
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« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2005, 08:11:01 PM »

The important thing to note is, Santorum, ideologically is closer to the philly burbs than casey is...

they might both be far out...but Santorum's to the moon, Casey...Mars.

And you know it's weird when someone says Santorum is closer to the Philly 'burbs than a Democrat.

Stress economic views around Montco, Bucks, etc. Rick. It'll help!
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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2005, 08:15:47 PM »

I think the real question is, how much vote will the Casey name-recogition thing bring him, and...

How much vote will the Senate incumbency thing bring Santorum?

They are both two powerful factors, and I wonder myself whether the two will cancel each other out.

Then this just turns into a typical incumbent-less Senate race.

Right now, I would call this race a toss-up, but just because Pennsylvania leans ever so slightly Democrat right now, I might be tempted to give a ever-so-slight advantage to Casey at this point.

But I probably won't.  There's still a lot of time left in this one, imo
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« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2005, 10:14:06 PM »

The important thing to note is, Santorum, ideologically is closer to the philly burbs than casey is...

they might both be far out...but Santorum's to the moon, Casey...Mars.

OK, PA types, how do these two candidates match up ideologically in Pittsburgh and its suburbs...or the T...or Erie, etc.? Who is closer, and how much difference will it make? Enough to counter the RINO's of Philadelphia? Wink

Those are really the questions it all hinges on, right?
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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2005, 10:24:33 PM »

PUTTING YOUR VIEWS ASIDE, WHO WILL REALLY WIN?

I find it funny that you expect people to answer this poll netrually, yet you put the Senator's name as "Ricky Santorum". Very mature.

For the record, I voted Santorum, because he will win.

Just like Jon Corzine will lose?
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« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2005, 10:31:09 PM »

The important thing to note is, Santorum, ideologically is closer to the philly burbs than casey is...

they might both be far out...but Santorum's to the moon, Casey...Mars.

OK, PA types, how do these two candidates match up ideologically in Pittsburgh and its suburbs...or the T...or Erie, etc.? Who is closer, and how much difference will it make? Enough to counter the RINO's of Philadelphia? Wink

Those are really the questions it all hinges on, right?

Erie- Casey fits perfectly
North/Central- Santorum will win by large margins
NEPA- Casey's home turf and an ideological perfect fit for him
York/Lancaster- Santorum by alot
Capital/Central- Santorum will win handily
Outer Philly Burbs- Santorum has the advantage
Montco/Bucks- Ask Phil
Philly- Rendell turnout will drive Casey to large margins here
Pittsburgh- Santorum's home area, but also close to Casey ideologically, toss up I would guess
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« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2005, 10:37:30 PM »

My money is on Santorum.  Why would the people toss out an influential member of the majority party and replace him with an ostracized member of the minority party?

With both of them being pro-life, it's a win-win situation for pro-life voters, but do you really think that the Dem heirarchy will allow Casey to rise to positions of prominence if he is elected.  Face it, Casey is anathema to much of the coalition that forms the base of the Democrat Party, PA notwithstanding.
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« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2005, 11:02:22 PM »
« Edited: March 08, 2005, 11:26:53 PM by Keystone Phil »

The important thing to note is, Santorum, ideologically is closer to the philly burbs than casey is...

they might both be far out...but Santorum's to the moon, Casey...Mars.

 Enough to counter the RINO's of Philadelphia? Wink


Actually, the Republicans of Philadelphia are rather conservative. Take, for example, Northeast Philadelphia Republicans (that would be me). Most are much more conservative than our Republican counterparts in the suburbs (maybe that's what you were thinking about).
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« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2005, 11:06:05 PM »

Mike,

Don't hold your breath waiting for Forrester to beat Corzine.  If, by chance, Forrester begins to lead in the polls, the NJ supreme Court will find another way to violate election law and allow Lautenberg to serve in TWO Senate seats at the same time.  You live in the most crooked state, politically speaking, that I have ever seen.
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« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2005, 12:48:29 PM »


Chuck Pennacchio is also running. Who is this Kiesling guy?

Ran for Governor in 1998 in the D primary.  A self publishing journalist with a penchant for conspiracy theories (but got 12% of the vote). 

The basic question is will a well funded, pro-choice, possibly female, candidate step forward and damage Casey in the D primary.  If pro-choice wing of the Democratic party stays home in the general, Casey is unelectable.
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« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2005, 03:10:48 PM »

As much as I think the GOP would like the left-wing of the Democratic party to stay home, they simply aren't.  Not when they have a chance to knock off Rick Santorum.  Seriously, Santorum has the image of being one of the most conservative guys in the Senate.  That alone will fire up my side's base.
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« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2005, 03:13:46 PM »

Rendell will get out of the Casey vote in the Southeast....no worries there.

Casey 51-47
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« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2005, 03:15:35 PM »

Rendell will get out of the Casey vote in the Southeast....no worries there.

Casey 51-47

Except that Casey and Rendell are political opposites
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« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2005, 03:17:02 PM »

Rendell will get out of the Casey vote in the Southeast....no worries there.

Casey 51-47

Except that Casey and Rendell are political opposites

Yep...but obviously Rendell doesn't care since he forced Hafer out.
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« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2005, 03:55:56 PM »

Rendell will get out of the Casey vote in the Southeast....no worries there.

Casey 51-47

I could see that outcome; however, I was thinking that Santorum could win with that result also.
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« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2005, 04:00:15 PM »

I think Santorum will help Casey out in the Southeast, simply by being the alternative to Casey.
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« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2005, 04:01:12 PM »

Rendell will get out of the Casey vote in the Southeast....no worries there.

Casey 51-47

Except that Casey and Rendell are political opposites

Yep...but obviously Rendell doesn't care since he forced Hafer out.

Clealry Rendell will ring in some support, but probably not many people who would not have voted for Casey in the end, anyway.
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« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2005, 04:26:12 PM »

santorum will win.

casey=klink part 2
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« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2005, 04:28:33 PM »


Sorry but you really can't compare the two.
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« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2005, 04:31:00 PM »


same ideology...except one is running on a famous name.
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« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2005, 04:32:02 PM »


And unfortunatley that's what gives him a clear edge.
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« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2005, 04:34:30 PM »

It's not *all* the name...he did a really good job as Auditor General.
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« Reply #47 on: March 09, 2005, 04:37:16 PM »

It's not *all* the name...he did a really good job as Auditor General.

It's the name.
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« Reply #48 on: March 09, 2005, 04:37:58 PM »

It's not *all* the name...he did a really good job as Auditor General.

It's the name.

He could have done a crappy job as Auditor General, and his name wouldn't have got him anywhere.
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« Reply #49 on: March 09, 2005, 04:39:02 PM »

It's not *all* the name...he did a really good job as Auditor General.

It's the name.

He could have done a crappy job as Auditor General, and his name wouldn't have got him anywhere.

You're a joke. His name is why he is a candidate. His name is the reason why he is a State Treasurer.
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