First Convention of the Progressive Union - Burlington VT

[GAworth]

XGAworth, Midwest Representative

For President:
[ 5 ] Dr. Cynic (Lab-PA) and Adam Griffin (Lab-GA)
[ 8 ] Duke (ind-SC) and Matt (Fed-VT)
[ 10 ] Lumine (Pro-WY) and Superique (Pro-NV)
[ 6 ] DemPGH (Lab-OR) and sirnick (Lab-NY)
[  ] Write-In:_______________

For Northeast Senate:
[  ] bore (Lab-RI)
[  ] Goldwater (Fed-DE)
[  ] Poirot (ind-NY)
[  ] Write-In:_______________

For Mideast Senate:
[  ] Talleyrand (Lab-MO)
[  ] Spiral (Fed-MO)
[  ] JCL (Fed-IN)
[  ] Write-In:_______________

For Southeast Senate:
[ 7 ] North Carolina Yankee (Fed-NC)
[  ] Write-In:_______________

For Midwest Senate:
[ 7 ] TNF (Lab-KY)
[ 2 ] Rooney (Fed-IA)
[ 9 ] Write-In:____GAworth___

For Pacific Senate:
[ 9 ] Tyrion (Lab-CA)
[ 10 ] Superique (Pro-NV)
[  ] Write-In:_______________

For Midwest Wisard-EkstraordinærGovernor:
[ 10 ] Write-In:___Lumine____

For Northeast Assembly (5 seats):
[ 8 ] butafly (Pro-ME)
[ 7 ] Matt (Fed-VT)
[ 3 ] Goldwater (Fed-DE)
[ 5 ] Dr. Cynic (Lab-PA)
[ 5 ] HockeyDude (Lib-NJ)
[  ] Write-In:_______________

For Northeast Governor:
[  ] sirnick (Lab-NY)
[  ] Write-In:_______________

IDS Legislature (2 seats):
[  ] Small L (Fed-TX)
[ 10 ] Write-In:______Scott___

72 hours, score voting.

(I hope I got everything right...)

[GAworth]

So I think it's time to tally up the scores?

Second

[GAworth]

So I think it's time to tally up the scores?

If I added it up correctly, our endorsements are as follows (please note, these are unofficial results):
President: Lumine/Superique
NE Senate: bore
ME Senate: Tallyrand
SE Senate: North Carolina Yankee
MW Senate: TNF
Pacific Senate: Superique
NE Assembly:
butafly
Matt
Goldwater
Dr. Cynic
HockeyDude
NE Governor: sirnick
IDS Legislature:
Small L
Scott

[GAworth]

Next up: the by-laws!

I'm proposing two changes:

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72 hours for more proposals and/or discussion, then we'll have a vote.

What about the Althing, Pacific Council, or Mideast Assembly?

[GAworth]

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Here are a few of my proposals.

[GAworth]

What about the Althing, Pacific Council, or Mideast Assembly?

Those aren't in the same timeframe as the Convention.

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This is already covered by the section below. I don't see anything wrong with a 72-hour nomination period.

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The problem with this is, well... say one person writes in "[10] Write-in: Dave Leip". The average score for Dave Leip would be 10 and he would be endorsed without input from anybody else.
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I thought that the total was divided by the amount of voters, so that if Dave gets a ten then it would be divided by 7 (if seven people voted) would 1.4 I would say do that.

[GAworth]

What about the Althing, Pacific Council, or Mideast Assembly?

Those aren't in the same timeframe as the Convention.

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This is already covered by the section below. I don't see anything wrong with a 72-hour nomination period.

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The problem with this is, well... say one person writes in "[10] Write-in: Dave Leip". The average score for Dave Leip would be 10 and he would be endorsed without input from anybody else.

I thought that the total was divided by the amount of voters, so that if Dave gets a ten then it would be divided by 7 (if seven people voted) would 1.4 I would say do that.

It's actually divided by the amount of voters giving that specific person a score.
ex.: in the last endorsement vote, Superique and you abstained on the endorsement of JCL. Thus he got a score of 3 2/3 (6+2+5+2+6+1 = 22; 22/6 = 3 2/3)
In the other system, it would be effectively impossible to abstain.
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I understand, that makes since and PJ raises a good point about we can endorse them separate.

[GAworth]

Voting on amendments to the by-laws is now open!

AMENDMENT 1:

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[ X ] AYE
[  ] NAY
[  ] ABSTAIN

AMENDMENT 2:

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[  ] AYE
[ X ] NAY
[  ] ABSTAIN

AMENDMENT 3:

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[ X ] AYE
[  ] NAY
[  ] ABSTAIN

AMENDMENT 4:

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[ X ] AYE
[  ] NAY
[  ] ABSTAIN

AMENDMENT 5:

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[ X ] AYE
[  ] NAY
[  ] ABSTAIN

72 hours, simple majority.

[GAworth]

I would like to thank everyone for the nomination and endorsements for chair, I accept the nomination. I would be happy to try to explain score voting especially in regards to our by-laws, if the amendments pass.

[GAworth]

So I believe the 72 hour window of voting has closed for our amendments and all but amendment 5 passed.
Amendment 1: 8 Yeas, 0 Nos
Amendment 2: 7 Yeas, 1 No
Amendment 3: 7 yeas, 1 No
Amendment 4: 6 Yeas, 2 Nos
Amendment 5: 4 Yeas, 4 Nos a tie results in a defeat.
(Of course, this is unofficial, until our chair finalizes it.)

[GAworth]

Time for the platform!

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72 hours for any further suggestions.

And at long last, I would like to welcome DemPGH to the party!

Housing
The Progressive Union believes that no one should be homeless or living in substandard housing. We support that the construction of state housing, state rental assistance schemes, and state assisted retrofitting of preexisting houses to help people live in dignity.

[GAworth]

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This one is good, but

Time for the platform!

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72 hours for any further suggestions.

And at long last, I would like to welcome DemPGH to the party!

this one messes up the later parts of the sentence.

Better?

[GAworth]

Come on everyone!!! This is what we all agree to stand on, does anyone wish to add/change something?

[GAworth]

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[ X ] aye
[  ] nay
[  ] abstain

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[ X ] aye
[  ] nay
[  ] abstain

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[ X ] aye
[  ] nay
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[ X ] aye
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[ X ] aye
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[ X ] aye
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[ X ] aye
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[  ] aye
[  ] nay
[ X ] abstain

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[ X ] choice a
[  ] choice b
[  ] none of the above
[  ] abstain

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[ X ] aye
[  ] nay
[  ] abstain

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[ X ] aye
[  ] nay
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[ X ] aye
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[ X ] aye
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72 hours, simple majority

[GAworth]

Yep, 25 years to be exact.  @.@

I know we have some pro-life members, and I don't want to offend them or drive them away.

Seriously though, we should draw a line in the sand somewhere.

Ok, so what would be your alternative?

[GAworth]

Personally I think the current Mideast statute where abortion is legal in the first trimester is an acceptable compromise.  If that's not acceptable, then I'd rather not address legality at all.

IMO, we should argue that nobody wants more abortions, but the best way to reduce them is not by banning them but by supporting comprehensive sex education and contraceptive availability.

Maybe if people are uncomfortable with addressing legality in the platform, we should focus on that last part that there are more effective means to reduce abortion than to ban it.

I can support the current law, I am personally pro-life but legislatively pro-choice. I don't see the problem with the plank, but I can accept your idea. That would be my personal position anyways.

[GAworth]

A humble address to the Convention

My fellow Progressives,
I was honored to of been nominated and endorsed by so many of you for the position of chair. I am proud to see our party grow and become one of the largest parties here in Atlasia, and we can continue to grow. The position of chair to me is a technical position, it is a position to make sure that the Party can smoothly run. A well managed party can assist members in elections and once they are in office. I believe that the party should have timely processes that adhere to our by-laws, 72 hours means 72 hours, and with me I will work to make sure that our party conferences and proceedings move along at a speed everyone can accept. Ever since I joined Atlasia, I have worked to avoid devolving into name calling and the petty bickering we see all the time now. As chair, I will urge all members to avoid this, I believe that the other parties fill that role, I wish to offer a real alternative.

We are a party of diverse beliefs and backgrounds, we have members in every region of Atlasia and from the right of center to the left on the ideological spectrum. As chair, the person who holds this office must respect the diverse ranges of views, if a division occurs on policy, the chair should work to find consensus, and not exacerbate the division. I can understand both sides of many issues, as someone who grew up conservative and now is a more liberal individual I lived these different viewpoints, I can work to unite our Party and make the powerful force I know it can be.

Now I cannot do it alone, I will work closely with the Vice Chair. However, I also believe that members should always contribute to the dialogue on the going-ons of the Party. I encourage all members to get involved and to help make the Party stronger. I look forward to answering any questions any of you have. Thank you.

GAworth, Most Serene Representative of the Midwest

[GAworth]

I have to agree with our Former Vice President, no matter who wins I hope everyone will support them. If Siren wins, he will have my full support and I will continue to work with him to make the Party the National powerhouse I know it can be.

[GAworth]

For Chair:
[ X ] GAworth
[  ] Siren
[  ] none of the above
[  ] abstain

For Vice-Chair:
[  ] PJ
[  ] Flo
[  ] none of the above
[ X ] abstain

72 hours, simple majority

[GAworth]

This wasn't an easy ballot.

It never is when you are choosing between friends of equal caliber.

[GAworth]

This wasn't an easy ballot.

It never is when you are choosing between friends of equal caliber.

I'm happier to have multiple good candidates taking a shot than simply giving it to the first person who speaks up, like has happened for many parties in the past.

I'm going to not take that as a dig and say AGREED!

[GAworth]

This wasn't an easy ballot.

It never is when you are choosing between friends of equal caliber.

Gotcha
I'm happier to have multiple good candidates taking a shot than simply giving it to the first person who speaks up, like has happened for many parties in the past.

I'm going to not take that as a dig and say AGREED!

Wasn't a dig...I'm used to there being only one name on a ballot for these things.