German Elections & Politics

[Bumaye]

54% for the right-wing parties in the workers stronghold of NRW is quite devastating to be honest. I expected the Greens to crash and burn but thought SPD/Linke would reach close to 40% combined, instead it's merely 35%.  
  
It's understandable though I guess. Cities like Essen, Dortmund, Gelsenkirchen, Duisburg, Herne or Oberhausen with each more then 10% without a job - of course these people want change. Though I doubt that the CDU is the right party for that.

[SPQR]

Why did FDP perform so well?

[Tender Branson]

Why did FDP perform so well?

Barney Lindner, federal FDP-chief, is the NRW-leader.

Also: Kraft has stepped down.

[Mike88]

Swings:



Interesting swings in this election.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Why did FDP perform so well?

it's lindner's own country and one with a high fdp-floor in "normal" years.

[Bumaye]

Any link to follow the results?

 
 
http://wahl.tagesschau.de/wahlen/2017-05-14-LT-DE-NW/index.shtml 

[Tender Branson]

Hannelore Kraft (SPD) steps down from all offices ... with an approval rating of 64-30 according to the ZDF exit poll.

[jaichind]

Current Calculation ARD 18.42: SPD 30.6%, CDU 34.3%, Green 6.1%, FDP 12.2%, Pirates 1.1%, Left 5.0%, AfD 7.7%

[Sozialliberal]

A disastrous result for the SPD in NRW, which is also Martin Schulz's home state.

If Linke falls below 5% a CDU-FDP majority might be viable

Since the FDP ruled out a traffic-light coalition and the Greens ruled out a Jamaica coalition, it's going to be either that or a grand coalition.

[ApatheticAustrian]

grand coalition was be horrible atm, imho.

[mgop]

grand coalition is the only option in this moment

[Klartext89]

Well, I told you so. There's no Schulz Hype outside the MSM and you all laughed. But as always, I was right ^^

[ApatheticAustrian]

Well, I told you so. There's no Schulz Hype outside the MSM and you all laughed. But as always, I was right ^^

i disagree.

more likely the schulz hype resulted into millions of conservative non-voters/afd-voters switching to the CDU again ouf of fear. ^^

[mvd10]

Hannelore Kraft (SPD) steps down from all offices ... with an approval rating of 64-30 according to the ZDF exit poll.

Lol. The Dutch PM won reelection with something like 60% of voters saying they don't want him to win another term at the start of the campaign.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Lol. The Dutch PM won reelection with something like 60% of voters saying they don't want him to win another term at the start of the campaign.

well, the dutch voters voted accordingly, in NRW the national trend prevailed. ^^

[Diouf]

Biggest net voter movements according to ARD:

Non-voters to CDU 480.000 voters
SPD to CDU 340.000
Others to AfD 310.000
SPD to FDP 160.000
Non-voters to SPD 160.000
Non-voters to AfD 130.000
Grüne to SPD 110.000
Grüne to CDU 100.000

[Beezer]

One of the latest forecasts has the Left below the 5% threshold:

[mvd10]

CDU/CSU-FDP would be amazing!

[Diouf]

CDU-FDP coalition the most popular among both CDU and FDP voters

[ApatheticAustrian]

YES

left party under 5% means the fdp must deliver....

this party is killing possible left coalitions since a decade...

[Klartext89]

CDU/CSU-FDP would be amazing!

It's better than Red-Green but that's like saying "great, I just have HIV, not cancer"...

ApatheticAustrian: You may be right with the switch of voters back to CDU from AfD out of fear, ok I should have said that there's no Schulz effect FOR THE SPD lol.

[Klartext89]

Btw, I looked up lots of areas and was sure an hour ago that Linke would fail.

Only 6-8% in the big Ruhrgebiet towns, 2% in rural areas around. Cologne a bit better, but that's not enough.

[Bumaye]

YES

left party under 5% means the fdp must deliver....

this party is killing possible left coalitions since a decade...

 
  
In the last 37 years there were only 5 years when NRW was not ruled either by SPD/Green or SPD alone.

[ApatheticAustrian]

In the last 37 years there were only 5 years when NRW was not ruled either by SPD/Green or SPD alone.

you are totally correct, i am ofc talking about other federl states and the national level, the left party in nrw is more or less powerless.

well, imho black - yellow is better than the "groko"....at least clear responsibilies.

[jaichind]

CDU-SPD gap getting smaller.  If it gets any smaller then CDU-FDP majority might not be viable even if Linke falls below 5%