German Elections & Politics

[ApatheticAustrian]

This result would be quite impressive for CDU as my understanding is that Kraft is fairly popular. 

albig was also very popular last week....this is imho mostly the national trend which trumps local trends.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

This result would be quite impressive for CDU as my understanding is that Kraft is fairly popular. 

She is (though not to the extent that she was) but the state government in general is not.

[Bumaye]

54% for the right-wing parties in the workers stronghold of NRW is quite devastating to be honest. I expected the Greens to crash and burn but thought SPD/Linke would reach close to 40% combined, instead it's merely 35%.  
  
It's understandable though I guess. Cities like Essen, Dortmund, Gelsenkirchen, Duisburg, Herne or Oberhausen with each more then 10% without a job - of course these people want change. Though I doubt that the CDU is the right party for that.

[SPQR]

Why did FDP perform so well?

[Tender Branson]

Why did FDP perform so well?

Barney Lindner, federal FDP-chief, is the NRW-leader.

Also: Kraft has stepped down.

[Mike88]

Swings:



Interesting swings in this election.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Why did FDP perform so well?

it's lindner's own country and one with a high fdp-floor in "normal" years.

[Bumaye]

Any link to follow the results?

 
 
http://wahl.tagesschau.de/wahlen/2017-05-14-LT-DE-NW/index.shtml 

[Tender Branson]

Hannelore Kraft (SPD) steps down from all offices ... with an approval rating of 64-30 according to the ZDF exit poll.

[jaichind]

Current Calculation ARD 18.42: SPD 30.6%, CDU 34.3%, Green 6.1%, FDP 12.2%, Pirates 1.1%, Left 5.0%, AfD 7.7%

[Sozialliberal]

A disastrous result for the SPD in NRW, which is also Martin Schulz's home state.

If Linke falls below 5% a CDU-FDP majority might be viable

Since the FDP ruled out a traffic-light coalition and the Greens ruled out a Jamaica coalition, it's going to be either that or a grand coalition.

[ApatheticAustrian]

grand coalition was be horrible atm, imho.

[mgop]

grand coalition is the only option in this moment

[Klartext89]

Well, I told you so. There's no Schulz Hype outside the MSM and you all laughed. But as always, I was right ^^

[ApatheticAustrian]

Well, I told you so. There's no Schulz Hype outside the MSM and you all laughed. But as always, I was right ^^

i disagree.

more likely the schulz hype resulted into millions of conservative non-voters/afd-voters switching to the CDU again ouf of fear. ^^

[mvd10]

Hannelore Kraft (SPD) steps down from all offices ... with an approval rating of 64-30 according to the ZDF exit poll.

Lol. The Dutch PM won reelection with something like 60% of voters saying they don't want him to win another term at the start of the campaign.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Lol. The Dutch PM won reelection with something like 60% of voters saying they don't want him to win another term at the start of the campaign.

well, the dutch voters voted accordingly, in NRW the national trend prevailed. ^^

[Diouf]

Biggest net voter movements according to ARD:

Non-voters to CDU 480.000 voters
SPD to CDU 340.000
Others to AfD 310.000
SPD to FDP 160.000
Non-voters to SPD 160.000
Non-voters to AfD 130.000
Grüne to SPD 110.000
Grüne to CDU 100.000

[Beezer]

One of the latest forecasts has the Left below the 5% threshold:

[mvd10]

CDU/CSU-FDP would be amazing!

[Diouf]

CDU-FDP coalition the most popular among both CDU and FDP voters

[ApatheticAustrian]

YES

left party under 5% means the fdp must deliver....

this party is killing possible left coalitions since a decade...

[Klartext89]

CDU/CSU-FDP would be amazing!

It's better than Red-Green but that's like saying "great, I just have HIV, not cancer"...

ApatheticAustrian: You may be right with the switch of voters back to CDU from AfD out of fear, ok I should have said that there's no Schulz effect FOR THE SPD lol.

[Klartext89]

Btw, I looked up lots of areas and was sure an hour ago that Linke would fail.

Only 6-8% in the big Ruhrgebiet towns, 2% in rural areas around. Cologne a bit better, but that's not enough.

[Bumaye]

YES

left party under 5% means the fdp must deliver....

this party is killing possible left coalitions since a decade...

 
  
In the last 37 years there were only 5 years when NRW was not ruled either by SPD/Green or SPD alone.