1812: John Quincy Adams (DR) vs. DeWitt Clinton (F)
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  1812: John Quincy Adams (DR) vs. DeWitt Clinton (F)
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« on: September 23, 2013, 02:52:12 PM »

John Quincy Adams by 1812 was a Democratic Republican from a Federalist family. He'd served the majority of his time in elected office as a Federalist, and only left the party--as I recall--was when the party became continually aligned with sectionalist concerns in the Northeast and didn't seem to reflect valuing the nation as a whole. Meanwhile, Clinton allowed himself to be nominated by the Federalists for President in 1812 despite himself being a Republican and coming from a Republican family. His uncle, after all, was the (soon to be deceased) Vice President while Adams' father had served as President twelve years prior. Let's say that in 1812, the Feds still nominate Clinton while the Republicans, attempting to appeal to Federalists and to dump the unpopular Madison, instead nominate Minister to Russia John Quincy Adams. The tickets are as follows.

U.S. Minister to Russia John Quincy Adams (Democratic Republican-Massachusetts)/Senator William H. Crawford (Democratic Republican-Georgia)

Mayor DeWitt Clinton (Federalist/Dissident Republican-New York)/U.S. Attorney Jared Ingersoll (Federalist-Pennsylvania)

What do you think the map looks like, and how do you think the election plays out?
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 01:03:35 PM »



Adams/Crawford: PA (25) + VA (25) +  NC (15) + KY (12) + SC (11) + GA (8 ) + TN (8 ) + VT (8 ) + NH (8 ) + OH (7 ) + LA (3) + MA (7 of 22) + MD (5 of 11) =  142

Clinton/Ingersoll: NY (29) + CT (9) + NJ (8 ) + RI (4) + DE (4) + MA (15 of 22) + MD (6 of 11) = 75

Many observers see little difference in the two candidates.  Both candidates claim they will avoid war if possible while not allowing America to be weak or passive in the face of threat, and both take a middle of the road approach on domestic issues.   There is some party crossover support for each candidate in the states electing by popular vote, while the states with electors chosen by legislatures stick by their party's nominees.  Adams does not win his home state, with many still angered by his support for Jefferson's Embargo Act, but he does win seven of its twenty congressional districts and his neighboring state of New Hampshire. DeWitt does well in the Mid-Atlantic.
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