Should Republicans give up on Presidential races completely?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I don't even think the GOP will have ballot access by 2016.  They're better off forming a coalition with a legitimate party, like the Constitution Party.

Oh yes or perhaps the rent is too damn high party. They're in soooooo much better shape than the Republican Party who controls the House, won't lose the House in the next few elections, and have a decent chance to pick up the Senate next year. Not to mention, they got 47% in the most recent presidential election. I mean we've never seen this before. There's never been a candidate in the 30's to get only 8 electoral votes. We've never had a party lose 49 out of 50 states and ruled them out. Where the Republicans are at now is soooooo much worse than the above named scenarios.

>He thinks I'm serious

Scott thinks barfbag is serious:

[barfbag]

Don't forget Mississippi. It trended Democratic a bit last year so it'll be a Democratic lock by 2016. By 2018 we should just focus on holding the Idaho and Wyoming governorships because all of the other states will have tossed the RepubliKKKans.

By 2036 it will probably will be, assuming current demographic trends and blacks staying over 98% Democratic.

Ah yes and by then something will have happened to stop the trend. Have you ever seen a trend go on forever? Even for over 30 years it's hard to come by. Remember it's been trending since 2008.

[Flake]

Don't forget Mississippi. It trended Democratic a bit last year so it'll be a Democratic lock by 2016. By 2018 we should just focus on holding the Idaho and Wyoming governorships because all of the other states will have tossed the RepubliKKKans.

By 2036 it will probably will be, assuming current demographic trends and blacks staying over 98% Democratic.

Ah yes and by then something will have happened to stop the trend. Have you ever seen a trend go on forever? Even for over 30 years it's hard to come by. Remember it's been trending since 2008.

Well unless Democrats start saying that black people aren't people, blacks will vote 85+% for Democrats, and they have since the 60's, ever since the Civil Rights Act. It is certain that the white population will decline and the black population will grow substantially, especially in Mississippi. The changes will make this red state blue. Not now, not next year, hell not even in the next 20 years. But in 2036 or 2040, Democrats can put this state in the lean column.

[barfbag]

Don't forget Mississippi. It trended Democratic a bit last year so it'll be a Democratic lock by 2016. By 2018 we should just focus on holding the Idaho and Wyoming governorships because all of the other states will have tossed the RepubliKKKans.

By 2036 it will probably will be, assuming current demographic trends and blacks staying over 98% Democratic.

No it will go back down. Keep dreaming.

[barfbag]

Don't forget Mississippi. It trended Democratic a bit last year so it'll be a Democratic lock by 2016. By 2018 we should just focus on holding the Idaho and Wyoming governorships because all of the other states will have tossed the RepubliKKKans.

By 2036 it will probably will be, assuming current demographic trends and blacks staying over 98% Democratic.

Ah yes and by then something will have happened to stop the trend. Have you ever seen a trend go on forever? Even for over 30 years it's hard to come by. Remember it's been trending since 2008.

Well unless Democrats start saying that black people aren't people, blacks will vote 85+% for Democrats, and they have since the 60's, ever since the Civil Rights Act. It is certain that the white population will decline and the black population will grow substantially, especially in Mississippi. The changes will make this red state blue. Not now, not next year, hell not even in the next 20 years. But in 2036 or 2040, Democrats can put this state in the lean column.

And you act as if nothing else is going on within the Republican Party in Mississippi? Do you deny the notion that trends don't go on forever?

[Adam Griffin]

Don't forget Mississippi. It trended Democratic a bit last year so it'll be a Democratic lock by 2016. By 2018 we should just focus on holding the Idaho and Wyoming governorships because all of the other states will have tossed the RepubliKKKans.

By 2036 it will probably will be, assuming current demographic trends and blacks staying over 98% Democratic.

Ah yes and by then something will have happened to stop the trend. Have you ever seen a trend go on forever? Even for over 30 years it's hard to come by. Remember it's been trending since 2008.

Well unless Democrats start saying that black people aren't people, blacks will vote 85+% for Democrats, and they have since the 60's, ever since the Civil Rights Act. It is certain that the white population will decline and the black population will grow substantially, especially in Mississippi. The changes will make this red state blue. Not now, not next year, hell not even in the next 20 years. But in 2036 or 2040, Democrats can put this state in the lean column.

And you act as if nothing else is going on within the Republican Party in Mississippi? Do you deny the notion that trends don't go on forever?

I imagine that the trend of racial oppression by white men in states like Mississippi will continue for several more decades.

[greenforest32]

By 2024, AZ, TX and GA at least will all be solidly Democratic,  making it impossible for a Republican to win the White House.

Posting erotica is against the forum rules OP.

[ElectionsGuy]

Don't forget Mississippi. It trended Democratic a bit last year so it'll be a Democratic lock by 2016. By 2018 we should just focus on holding the Idaho and Wyoming governorships because all of the other states will have tossed the RepubliKKKans.

By 2036 it will probably will be, assuming current demographic trends and blacks staying over 98% Democratic.

Ah yes and by then something will have happened to stop the trend. Have you ever seen a trend go on forever? Even for over 30 years it's hard to come by. Remember it's been trending since 2008.

Well unless Democrats start saying that black people aren't people, blacks will vote 85+% for Democrats, and they have since the 60's, ever since the Civil Rights Act. It is certain that the white population will decline and the black population will grow substantially, especially in Mississippi. The changes will make this red state blue. Not now, not next year, hell not even in the next 20 years. But in 2036 or 2040, Democrats can put this state in the lean column.

What are you talking about here? The black population is projected to stay largely stagnant, if anything a very very slow growth. Its Latinos and Asians that will grow heavily, and yes whites will decrease, and the black population will be more of the electorate (in Mississippi) over time. And it will be very slow, and will not be at the current 2012 rate, because blacks were at their best turnout in a long time and whites were at their worst turnout in a long time.

They will only become more of the electorate (In Mississippi, again) because black birth rates are higher than white birth rates. In the country overall though, blacks will stay stagnant when you factor in Latinos and Asians, which Mississippi does not have a lot of. There will be no "substantial" black growth as you describe.

[Pessimistic Antineutrino]

Don't forget Mississippi. It trended Democratic a bit last year so it'll be a Democratic lock by 2016. By 2018 we should just focus on holding the Idaho and Wyoming governorships because all of the other states will have tossed the RepubliKKKans.

By 2036 it will probably will be, assuming current demographic trends and blacks staying over 98% Democratic.

Ah yes and by then something will have happened to stop the trend. Have you ever seen a trend go on forever? Even for over 30 years it's hard to come by. Remember it's been trending since 2008.

Well unless Democrats start saying that black people aren't people, blacks will vote 85+% for Democrats, and they have since the 60's, ever since the Civil Rights Act. It is certain that the white population will decline and the black population will grow substantially, especially in Mississippi. The changes will make this red state blue. Not now, not next year, hell not even in the next 20 years. But in 2036 or 2040, Democrats can put this state in the lean column.

What are you talking about here? The black population is projected to stay largely stagnant, if anything a very very slow growth. Its Latinos and Asians that will grow heavily, and yes whites will decrease, and the black population will be more of the electorate (in Mississippi) over time. And it will be very slow, and will not be at the current 2012 rate, because blacks were at their best turnout in a long time and whites were at their worst turnout in a long time.

They will only become more of the electorate (In Mississippi, again) because black birth rates are higher than white birth rates. In the country overall though, blacks will stay stagnant when you factor in Latinos and Asians, which Mississippi does not have a lot of. There will be no "substantial" black growth as you describe.

According to here, which I'm sure you're all familiar with, even if the average Democrat pulls in 100% of the black vote, Mississippi will not vote Democratic until 2052 at least.

This is assuming current trends uphold for the next 40+ years, and that the average Democrat will exceed Obama's totals in the black vote on average. If Mississippi ever goes Democrat, it will be because of a realignment or landslide, not because of small demographic trends.

[ElectionsGuy]

Don't forget Mississippi. It trended Democratic a bit last year so it'll be a Democratic lock by 2016. By 2018 we should just focus on holding the Idaho and Wyoming governorships because all of the other states will have tossed the RepubliKKKans.

By 2036 it will probably will be, assuming current demographic trends and blacks staying over 98% Democratic.

Ah yes and by then something will have happened to stop the trend. Have you ever seen a trend go on forever? Even for over 30 years it's hard to come by. Remember it's been trending since 2008.

Well unless Democrats start saying that black people aren't people, blacks will vote 85+% for Democrats, and they have since the 60's, ever since the Civil Rights Act. It is certain that the white population will decline and the black population will grow substantially, especially in Mississippi. The changes will make this red state blue. Not now, not next year, hell not even in the next 20 years. But in 2036 or 2040, Democrats can put this state in the lean column.

What are you talking about here? The black population is projected to stay largely stagnant, if anything a very very slow growth. Its Latinos and Asians that will grow heavily, and yes whites will decrease, and the black population will be more of the electorate (in Mississippi) over time. And it will be very slow, and will not be at the current 2012 rate, because blacks were at their best turnout in a long time and whites were at their worst turnout in a long time.

They will only become more of the electorate (In Mississippi, again) because black birth rates are higher than white birth rates. In the country overall though, blacks will stay stagnant when you factor in Latinos and Asians, which Mississippi does not have a lot of. There will be no "substantial" black growth as you describe.

According to here, which I'm sure you're all familiar with, even if the average Democrat pulls in 100% of the black vote, Mississippi will not vote Democratic until 2052 at least.

This is assuming current trends uphold for the next 40+ years, and that the average Democrat will exceed Obama's totals in the black vote on average. If Mississippi ever goes Democrat, it will be because of a realignment or landslide, not because of small demographic trends.

Oh yeah, like I said, very slow. Democrats would need at least a 20 point landslide to win Mississippi. It will continue to vote republican until there is a realignment.

[barfbag]

By 2024, AZ, TX and GA at least will all be solidly Democratic,  making it impossible for a Republican to win the White House.

Posting erotica is against the forum rules OP.

Stupidity should be against the rules too because that's what his comment was to me.

[hopper]

The idea that one party is going to completely dominate the national scene is utterly senseless. Sure, current trends might look bad for Republicans. But we'll adjust to them, and this party will moderate on social issues and start appeasing Hispanics. It may take some time, as a chunk of Republicans seem to be of the opinion we can remain a relevant party despite being anti-Hispanic and socially conservative, but after a string of losses, I think the point will be realized, and a shift will occur.

Well that would be a win for everyone if your version of the future were to actually happen.  Most people don't want the GOP to disappear.  They just want the party to join the rest of us in reality.  Some of us would like a choice when we go into the voting booth.  But I know I can't vote for anyone or strengthen any party that spews hate againsts blacks, Hispanics, women, etc.

The GOP just has a problem with Hispanics that come here illegally not the ones that came legally and did things the right way. I know Hispanics get confused by that. The GOP doesn't have a problem with black people. The women thing its mainly about abortion and I agree the GOP does pander to the social conservatives way too much on that issue.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

2016 and 2020 are locks for Hillary.

Predicting an election in more than three years from now as a "lock" is moronic. Predicting an election more than fycking seven years from now as a lock qualifies one as an owner of less than two brain cells.

[PolitiJunkie]

2016 and 2020 are locks for Hillary.

Predicting an election in more than three years from now as a "lock" is moronic. Predicting an election more than fycking seven years from now as a lock qualifies one as an owner of less than two brain cells.

The entire post/thread is sarcastic you dumbsh**t. Where have you been?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

2016 and 2020 are locks for Hillary.

Predicting an election in more than three years from now as a "lock" is moronic. Predicting an election more than fycking seven years from now as a lock qualifies one as an owner of less than two brain cells.

The entire post/thread is sarcastic you dumbsh**t. Where have you been?

Spending more time away from my computer. I strongly recommend.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

They can't be the no party. But their hostility towards raising minimum wage and payroll tax holiday and compromise on getting the oil industry to pay fair share of taxes doesn't bode good for them. If they don't adopt one of these reformist items in addition to immigration, they won't be on the same playing field.

[Flake]

Don't forget Mississippi. It trended Democratic a bit last year so it'll be a Democratic lock by 2016. By 2018 we should just focus on holding the Idaho and Wyoming governorships because all of the other states will have tossed the RepubliKKKans.

By 2036 it will probably will be, assuming current demographic trends and blacks staying over 98% Democratic.

Ah yes and by then something will have happened to stop the trend. Have you ever seen a trend go on forever? Even for over 30 years it's hard to come by. Remember it's been trending since 2008.

Well unless Democrats start saying that black people aren't people, blacks will vote 85+% for Democrats, and they have since the 60's, ever since the Civil Rights Act. It is certain that the white population will decline and the black population will grow substantially, especially in Mississippi. The changes will make this red state blue. Not now, not next year, hell not even in the next 20 years. But in 2036 or 2040, Democrats can put this state in the lean column.

And you act as if nothing else is going on within the Republican Party in Mississippi? Do you deny the notion that trends don't go on forever?

I imagine that the trend of racial oppression by white men in states like Mississippi will continue for several more decades.

[morgieb]

Of course. Wyoming will become 50/50 by 2016.

[barfbag]

They can't be the no party. But their hostility towards raising minimum wage and payroll tax holiday and compromise on getting the oil industry to pay fair share of taxes doesn't bode good for them. If they don't adopt one of these reformist items in addition to immigration, they won't be on the same playing field.

Doing nothing at all is much better than screwing things up. Obama can't be the president of no when it comes to lowering taxes, ending abortion, and ending Obamacare. See how easy it is to use the "no" card in politics. It's a game politicians use on the uninformed and it works on people like you.