SENATE BILL: Fair Labor Standards Act of 2013 (Redraft at Vote)
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« Reply #175 on: October 30, 2013, 12:32:20 AM »

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« Reply #176 on: October 30, 2013, 12:48:12 AM »

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« Reply #177 on: October 30, 2013, 06:21:52 AM »

Friendly, on the assumption that this change will get this bill to a bill sooner rather than later.
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« Reply #178 on: October 30, 2013, 07:00:23 AM »

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« Reply #179 on: November 01, 2013, 01:05:38 AM »

The amendment has been adopted.


Since it has been a good two days since the last amendment was offered I am going to go ahead and open a final vote here. 

This bill is now at final vote, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #180 on: November 01, 2013, 03:12:29 AM »

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« Reply #181 on: November 01, 2013, 06:38:31 AM »

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« Reply #182 on: November 01, 2013, 09:32:45 AM »

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« Reply #183 on: November 01, 2013, 12:10:51 PM »

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« Reply #184 on: November 01, 2013, 12:45:47 PM »

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« Reply #185 on: November 02, 2013, 11:09:20 AM »

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« Reply #186 on: November 02, 2013, 11:27:45 AM »

Nay, only due to section seven.
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« Reply #187 on: November 02, 2013, 04:22:07 PM »

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« Reply #188 on: November 03, 2013, 12:32:21 AM »

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« Reply #189 on: November 03, 2013, 03:36:04 PM »

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« Reply #190 on: November 03, 2013, 11:53:26 PM »

Nay but with reluctance.

I like most of what is in this, but I think this intership business might only serve to deprive people of experience and thus keep them out of better paying jobs.
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« Reply #191 on: November 03, 2013, 11:56:52 PM »

Matt you can call 24 hours on vote changes here.
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« Reply #192 on: November 04, 2013, 07:01:53 AM »

Senators, you have 24 hours to change your votes on this bill.

(I'll add the roll call counts this afternoon.)
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« Reply #193 on: November 04, 2013, 09:41:18 AM »
« Edited: November 04, 2013, 09:50:23 AM by President Duke »

I think ridding ourselves of unpaid internships may do more harm than good. Most of these companies will merely eliminate them rather than actually paying their interns when given the choice, which in turn will only hurt students opportunities to gain experience. I worked an unpaid internship two summers ago, and there is no way they would have hired me if it had been paid, but the experience I gained that summer was irreplaceable.

I understand this is a controversy, especially because of the recent death this summer, but I don't want us to overreact. These unpaid internships can benefit one's career immensely. I don't want to see that go away. I want to give people more opportunities, not less, and this will not help our already high unemployment.

Otherwise I'm fine with this bill.
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« Reply #194 on: November 04, 2013, 12:20:07 PM »

If there is a way to enforce "assigning meaningful work" and the like, and someone knows how to legislate that, I am all for it. Otherwise, it will just add a toothless mandate to the legislation.

I do support the rest of this bill, but I will wield my veto pen as long as section 7 remains in it. I think it will cause far more harm than good.

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« Reply #195 on: November 04, 2013, 01:34:24 PM »

If there is a way to enforce "assigning meaningful work" and the like, and someone knows how to legislate that, I am all for it. Otherwise, it will just add a toothless mandate to the legislation.

I do support the rest of this bill, but I will wield my veto pen as long as section 7 remains in it. I think it will cause far more harm than good.

Let the attacks commence... Wink

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Is your issue just with the internship parts of section 7 or the entirety of the section? I reluctantly would be okay removing the parts on unpaid internships, but I would not be down with removing the parts on prison labor. 
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« Reply #196 on: November 04, 2013, 01:44:57 PM »

If there is a way to enforce "assigning meaningful work" and the like, and someone knows how to legislate that, I am all for it. Otherwise, it will just add a toothless mandate to the legislation.

I do support the rest of this bill, but I will wield my veto pen as long as section 7 remains in it. I think it will cause far more harm than good.

Let the attacks commence... Wink

You suck! Tongue

Is your issue just with the internship parts of section 7 or the entirety of the section? I reluctantly would be okay removing the parts on unpaid internships, but I would not be down with removing the parts on prison labor. 

My only beef is with the internship portion. I'm fine with prison compensation.

I know I suck, but hopefully I suck a little less with that response. Wink
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« Reply #197 on: November 04, 2013, 02:34:07 PM »

The basic income guarantee does change the manner by which we should approach unpaid internships. I oppose them because they generally can't go to poorer people, since they couldn't afford not to be paid. The BIG changes that somewhat. I would support a redraft.
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« Reply #198 on: November 04, 2013, 03:52:53 PM »

This bill was written before Nixcome was law. I would support a redraft altering the portion as far as unpaid internships are concerned now that Nixcome is in effect.
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« Reply #199 on: November 04, 2013, 04:00:41 PM »

Yeah we have a deficit now that is around $150 Billion.
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