Why are there no Jewish homophobes?

[traininthedistance]

Jews don't prioritize the gay issue.  they're some combination of Democrats by ethnic habit / rabid Zionists, not mutually exclusive.  "I've never met a Jewish Jew", so says my born-again friend, and he's not wrong; go to Brooklyn on Saturday and you'll meet a few, but as a rule, the Law is not kept.

Depends where in Brooklyn.  Round where I live, you can see the Law being kept pretty often.

Homophobia is sort of different in New York City though.  Religious fundamentalists do not control the political or social power structure of the city.  So, there isn't the manufactured outrage about gay marriage, the homosexual lifestyle or sinful behavior in the public square. 

Instead, homophobia is expressed through physical intimidation, threats, assaults and anti-gay hate crimes.  And this homophobic conduct is less religion based and more based on socio-economic status and race.  So, from that understanding of homophobia, orthodox Jews are actually fairly tolerant.

I'm sure they're relatively tolerant of non-Jews being gay, but within the community there is quite a great deal of repression, as the city's power structure is rather less relevant to them than the power structure of their insular community.  Though of course there are many more flavors of Orthodox than outsiders are usually aware of, and I'm sure some groups are better than others.  But I'd expect that it's near universal among Hasidic and Haredi communities that one is expected to marry young and start a family, and there is intense pressure to remain in the closet.

[Oak Hills]

Jews don't prioritize the gay issue.  they're some combination of Democrats by ethnic habit / rabid Zionists, not mutually exclusive.  "I've never met a Jewish Jew", so says my born-again friend, and he's not wrong; go to Brooklyn on Saturday and you'll meet a few, but as a rule, the Law is not kept.

Don't the Orhtodox ones segregate themselves in their own neighbourhoods?

Only some of them. Those are the ones frequently called "ultra-orthodox", from what I can tell.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

There are plenty of them, but being 1% of the population or so does not give you the biggest or loudest voice.  Plus, for the Orthodox Jews, doesn't the Middle East/Israel situation seem all the more pressing?  That mostly what I've seen them talk about. 

[traininthedistance]

There are plenty of them, but being 1% of the population or so does not give you the biggest or loudest voice.  Plus, for the Orthodox Jews, doesn't the Middle East/Israel situation seem all the more pressing?  That mostly what I've seen them talk about. 

Depends whether you're talking Modern Orthodox (your Joe Lieberman types) or the Hasidic/Haredim population (which are the groups that self-segregate, wear distinctive "plain" dress, etc.)  The Modern Orthodox don't really care about gay marriage that much.  The Hasidic and Haredim communities care about it a lot (remember NY Jew?), and we can thank that fact for the career of former Congressman Bob Turner.  Funnily enough, a lot of the ultra-Orthodox are actually anti-Zionist for various religious reasons- they don't accept the legitimacy of a secular Jewish state in that region- which is why those communities are exempt from the draft in Israel.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

There aren't very many Haredim in the old seat Bob Turner was elected in. It might've included part of the south/east end of Borough Park, but that would still be a very small percentage of the district.  Most of the Jewish Republicans there were older traditional Orthodox types who nonertheless where not fond of gay marriage.

Also Dov Hikind was not exactly non-vocal about the gay marriage bill.

[traininthedistance]

There aren't very many Haredim in the old seat Bob Turner was elected in. It might've included part of the south/east end of Borough Park, but that would still be a very small percentage of the district.  Most of the Jewish Republicans there were older traditional Orthodox types who nonertheless where not fond of gay marriage.

Also Dov Hikind was not exactly non-vocal about the gay marriage bill.

Boro Park is not the only ultra-Orthodox neighborhood in southern Brooklyn- Turner's district included a lot of Midwood, which is similar (if not nearly so monolithic).

But, sure, a lot of that vote was from homophobic but decidedly non-Orthodox areas such as Brighton Beach.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

There are plenty of them, but being 1% of the population or so does not give you the biggest or loudest voice.  Plus, for the Orthodox Jews, doesn't the Middle East/Israel situation seem all the more pressing?  That mostly what I've seen them talk about. 

Depends whether you're talking Modern Orthodox (your Joe Lieberman types) or the Hasidic/Haredim population (which are the groups that self-segregate, wear distinctive "plain" dress, etc.)  The Modern Orthodox don't really care about gay marriage that much.  The Hasidic and Haredim communities care about it a lot (remember NY Jew?), and we can thank that fact for the career of former Congressman Bob Turner.  Funnily enough, a lot of the ultra-Orthodox are actually anti-Zionist for various religious reasons- they don't accept the legitimacy of a secular Jewish state in that region- which is why those communities are exempt from the draft in Israel.

Them.  And I was defining the "Middle East/Israel" situation as quite broad.  For, against, moderate, crazy... whenever I see one of the Hasidic Jews strongly expressing an opinion, it has SOMETHING to do with Holy Wars/promised lands/God's plan for the region/etc. 

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Turner also, you know, won a lot of votes from people who aren't Jewish and clearly trailed amongst Jewish voters in the Queens section of the district.

[Gustaf]

We went this long without anyone pointing out that Judaism doesn't evangelise? As in, they don't seek converts.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

We went this long without anyone pointing out that Judaism doesn't evangelise? As in, they don't seek converts.

That may be true, but you never see Jews run homophobic campaigns, support conversion therapy, or anger at states that pass marriage equality.