Why was Mondale even considered a candidate in 1984?
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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2013, 11:19:47 PM »

He was a liberal with all the party organization, labor, and other liberal interest groups sewn up the minute Ted Kennedy bowed out. The fact his expected major primary rival, John Glenn, ran an awful campaign that utterly imploded tells just what an utterly gargantuan feat Hart had to upset him in the marathon nomination race. The fact Hart was a handful of ill-timed gaffes away from possibly doing so also says what an empty suit, ableit a decent person, Mondale was.

Mondale was labor's man; no doubt about it.  The attack against Mondale, in both the primary and the general, was that he was the candidate of "special interests".  Mondale never gave the obvious refutation, that being that his support from women, labor, environmentalists, were not "special interests", but MASS CONSTITUENCIES.  He made a poor pick for VP; a Governor or Senator from the South would have helped.  He came off as pandering at times.  And his statement that he would raise taxes to close the deficit was silly; the Democrats have never been really serious about cutting social programs to combat the deficit and no one wants to pay more taxes.  None of this would have precluded Reagan's win, but carrying only MN (just barely) and DC was the result of a horrible campaign.
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2013, 01:32:26 PM »

In other countries, a difference between 58,77% and 40,56% would be considered a wide margin, but NOT a very wide margin. American races are usually close.

Well, even in the USA, there were other reelections with wide margin. The margin of victory of the incumbent candidates in the popular vote in 1936, 1964 and 1972 were wider. In 1956, it as almost as wide as it was in 1984.

The difference is that in 1984 there was no geographic concentration of votes, and that's why Reagan won almost all the Electoral College.

Indeed. Dole won 40.7% of the popular vote (only 0.1% more than Mondale) in 1996, yet captured over 159 electoral votes.

You're ignoring a man named Ross Perot that himself took 8% of the vote in this election. There was no such candidate in 1984. Mondale lost 59-41. Dole lost 49-41.
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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2013, 01:35:04 PM »

He did better than Romney though? I mean Romney ran the worst campaign ever right?
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« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2015, 06:44:58 PM »

I thought Mondale ran a decent campaign (albeit one that misread the wishes of most Americans). He had the misfortune of running against a popular President and gifted communicator. He certainly helped energize certain segments of the electorate: Blacks voted for him in what were then record numbers; San Francisco and Boston's more liberal, formerly Republican or 50/50 suburbs turned out for him in margins that would be signs of future voting patterns. I hope Mondale is remembered for his years of public service rather than his President.
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