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« on: July 29, 2013, 07:45:05 am »

I am almost convinced that he didn't win a single city against Romney, I don't even think he won Lawton! or Muskogee! I did find the majority black town called Fort Coffee (Le Flore County) and a 40% Black town called Boley (Okfuskee County). Obviously Obama didn't come close to winning any counties in OK, and Oklahoma City extends into Canadian and Cleveland counties so Obama didn't win it within city lines. Any other cities/villages you could find?
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2013, 11:44:48 am »

He might have won Okmulgee (pop. approx 13,000) but the precinct shapes makes it very hard to tell.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2013, 12:16:02 pm »

No reservation towns?
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2013, 12:30:38 pm »

In Oklahoma? Indian settlement there looks a little different from elsewhere in the west...
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2013, 12:31:46 pm »

Anyways, Boley is just 40% Black now? Or is that the precinct it dominates? Too lazy to look it up on the census website, but in 2000 it was 54% Black (and the trend was downwards, of course. Used to be all Black for decades.)
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2013, 12:38:54 pm »

Anyways, Boley is just 40% Black now? Or is that the precinct it dominates? Too lazy to look it up on the census website, but in 2000 it was 54% Black (and the trend was downwards, of course. Used to be all Black for decades.)

Actually, it was the precinct I was looking at on DRA, the village is probably more black.
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2013, 01:14:49 pm »

He might have won Okmulgee (pop. approx 13,000) but the precinct shapes makes it very hard to tell.

As far as I can tell, it went 51-49 Obama-McCain, Romney performed almost exactly the same here a McCain did, and given that urban areas trended D and rural areas trended R, I give it a 70% chance that Obama won it, however my confidence level is a toss-up.
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2013, 02:00:42 pm »

As far at it is possible to tell from precinct data (precinct borders only accidentally correspond with city limits), he has won Anadarko (Caddo Co., pop. 6762). When adding up all five precincts that include parts of the city, they went 52:48 Obama.

He came within a hair of winning Norman (Cleveland Co., pop. 111,000), which he only lost 48:52.
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2013, 02:14:20 pm »

As far at it is possible to tell from precinct data (precinct borders only accidentally correspond with city limits), he has won Anadarko (Caddo Co., pop. 6762). When adding up all five precincts that include parts of the city, they went 52:48 Obama.
Which is probably the closest thing to a non-Oklahoman reservation town you'll find in the state. The type with Whites, though.
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Very Dem college town outvoted by random OKC suburbia around it. IIRC that's roughly the same as 2008.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2013, 04:11:35 pm »

A few more results (I am working through the counties from  A to Z):

- Lawton went 47:53 for Romney (Obama got killed in the precincts next to Fort Stills);
- Muskogee is too close to call. When I sum up all precincts with a reasonable part of the city within them, Romney leads 50.3: 49.7 (62 votes), so the city proper may really have gone either way.

Smaller places won by Obama:
- Langston, Logan Co. (black college, 97% Obama)
- Taft, Boynton (both Muskogee Co., both majority black)
- Red Rock, Noble Co. (74% Native American)
- Boley, Okfuskee Co. (55% Black)
- Grant CDP, Choctaw Co. - the precinct was won by Romney with one vote, so Grant itself (has a casino, so probably a Native American place) may have gone to Obama.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2013, 04:44:01 pm »

As far at it is possible to tell from precinct data (precinct borders only accidentally correspond with city limits), he has won Anadarko (Caddo Co., pop. 6762). When adding up all five precincts that include parts of the city, they went 52:48 Obama.

He came within a hair of winning Norman (Cleveland Co., pop. 111,000), which he only lost 48:52.

I can't believe he lost Norman.

I was about to guess that he won Norman and Muskogee.
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2013, 08:31:23 am »

He might have won Okmulgee (pop. approx 13,000) but the precinct shapes makes it very hard to tell.

As far as I can tell, it went 51-49 Obama-McCain, Romney performed almost exactly the same here a McCain did, and given that urban areas trended D and rural areas trended R, I give it a 70% chance that Obama won it, however my confidence level is a toss-up.

According to my count, it went  53-47 Obama, if you exclude those two precincts (#10 & '#36) that only marginally extend onto city territory and don't cover any of its urban part. If you include those two precincts, Romney won narrowly.

A few more smaller places won by Obama:

- Hoffman & Grayson (Okmulgee), both located within the same precinct that went 57.5 Obama. Grayson is 62% AA.

- Dewar (Okmulgee) - precinct (town plus a lot of countryside) narrowly won by Romney (8 votes), the town proper may have gone to Obama

- Spencer (City in Oklahoma county, 52% black) 76-34 Obama

- Forest Park (town in Oklahoma county, 72% black) 79-21 Obama

- Turley (CDP in Tulsa county) 80-20 Obama. Obama also won the part of Tulsa city that lies within Osage county 85-15, as well as most of North-Western Tulsa, but performed very poorly in the City's south, so he overall lost the City 43.5 - 56.5.

I finally can confirm that OKC has gone to Romney. He won the Oklahoma County portion 53-47, and Obama did not win a single OKC precinct outside of Oklahoma county (did not bother to sum them all up for a full OKC result).

Overall observation: Obama did reasonably well in a number smaller county capitals (Tahlequah 46%, Stillwater 43%, Idabel 41%, Hugo 40%), but was killed in the suburbs (e.g Edmond 27%, Broken Arrow 26%, Bixby 20%). The countryside varies widely and includes a few rural (majority native American?) precincts won by Obama, but in general he also did quite poorly there.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2013, 09:02:32 am »

Tulsa is one of the most segregated cities in the US.

OKC is... not.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2013, 10:01:03 pm »

As far at it is possible to tell from precinct data (precinct borders only accidentally correspond with city limits), he has won Anadarko (Caddo Co., pop. 6762). When adding up all five precincts that include parts of the city, they went 52:48 Obama.

He came within a hair of winning Norman (Cleveland Co., pop. 111,000), which he only lost 48:52.

I can't believe he lost Norman.

I was about to guess that he won Norman and Muskogee.

Norman's been Edmonding for years—rather visible in aerial photography, arguably moreso on the ground. Yet as Lewis noted the Dems are still solid in the older part of town. That this area is incidentally declining in influence should go without saying.
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2013, 10:47:32 pm »

As far at it is possible to tell from precinct data (precinct borders only accidentally correspond with city limits), he has won Anadarko (Caddo Co., pop. 6762). When adding up all five precincts that include parts of the city, they went 52:48 Obama.

He came within a hair of winning Norman (Cleveland Co., pop. 111,000), which he only lost 48:52.

IIRC, though, he lost it 53-47 in 2008, so it actually did swing slightly to Obama.

I can't believe he lost Norman.

I was about to guess that he won Norman and Muskogee.

Norman's been Edmonding for years—rather visible in aerial photography, arguably moreso on the ground. Yet as Lewis noted the Dems are still solid in the older part of town. That this area is incidentally declining in influence should go without saying.
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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2013, 11:24:06 pm »

What were the numbers for OKC and Tulsa?
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2013, 04:38:30 pm »


In 2008, Tulsa was 56% McCain among city lines, and OKC is around 57%-59% McCain depending on how you shade in lines because precincts don't match city lines. (Remember that OKC extends into Canadian and Cleveland counties).
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2013, 04:40:11 pm »

I'd be interested to know what small towns Obama won in states that he lost.

I know Kentucky has several just locally (Woodlawn, Silver Grove, etc.).
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