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« on: July 25, 2013, 11:53:28 PM »
« edited: July 25, 2013, 11:56:50 PM by Senator Gass3268 »

Inspired by Xahar's Indian thread. Here is the United States with Canadian ridings:

California: 336
Texas: 230
New York: 173
Florida: 171
Illinois: 114
Pennsylvania: 113
Ohio: 102
Georgia: 88
Michigan: 87
North Carolina: 86
New Jersey: 78
Virginia: 72
Washington: 61
Massachusetts: 59
Arizona: 58
Indiana: 56
Tennessee: 57
Missouri: 53
Maryland: 52
Wisconsin: 51
Minnesota: 47
Colorado: 46
Alabama: 43
South Carolina: 42
Louisiana: 41
Kentucky: 39
Oregon: 34
Oklahoma: 34
Connecticut: 32
Iowa: 27
Mississippi: 26
Arkansas: 26
Kansas: 25
Utah: 25
Nevada: 24
New Mexico: 18
Nebraska: 16
West Virginia: 16
Idaho: 14
Hawaii: 12
Maine: 12
New Hampshire: 12
Rhode Island: 9
Montana: 9
Delaware: 8
South Dakota: 7
Alaska: 6
North Dakota: 6
Vermont: 6
Wyoming: 5

When you are drawing your maps, realize that the restricting board in Canada usually strives for a max deviation of 10%, but it is legal to go up to 25%.

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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2013, 01:33:58 PM »

Many of these could end up much like the state house or senate districts (without the gerrymandering).
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2013, 01:16:52 AM »

Here is Washington DC:



All five districts are extremely solid Democratic ridings. Obama won the blue district on the eastern side of the Anacostia River in 2008 98.8-.08 over McCain. 2 districts are big majority Black (blue and green), 1 is majority Black with a large Hispanic population (yellow), 1 is majority white with a large Black population (purple) and 1 district has a big white majority (red).
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2013, 01:23:20 AM »

Wyoming


All five districts are very Republican and all are pretty white.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2013, 01:38:16 AM »

South Dakota


Obama won the Blue and Red ridings in 2008, but probably not in 2012. South Dakota Democrats would probably be favored in both though. The remaining ridings  are solidly Republican, but the Teal Green district is 25.3% Native America.   

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2013, 01:47:17 AM »

Georgia (10% deviation)Sad

I did this one again because I wasn't satisfied with the first run.





29 out of 88 ridings are majority-minority (32%). There are 26 reliable Democratic ridings, 48 reliable Republican ridings and 14 toss-ups.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2013, 01:53:59 AM »
« Edited: July 28, 2013, 09:06:36 AM by Senator Gass3268 »

North Dakota


Obama won the Blue and Purple ridings in 2008, but probably only the Blue riding in 2012. Both would probably be Likely Dem for North Dakota style Democrats and the Green riding would competitive. The other 3 would be safe for the Republicans
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2013, 02:27:05 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2013, 09:12:19 AM »

Delaware


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The two districts farthest south are probably safe Republican, the Purple riding with Dover is probably Likely/Lean Dem and the 5 districts in New Castle County are all Safe Dem.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2013, 08:50:40 PM »

What, no names? That's half the fun!
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2013, 09:06:19 PM »

What, no names? That's half the fun!
^^^

And keep in mind the difference between Canadian and British naming conventions. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2013, 10:00:07 PM »

What, no names? That's half the fun!
^^^

And keep in mind the difference between Canadian and British naming conventions. Wink

Yes. I am a harsh judge when it comes to these things.

BTW, another thing to keep in mind is that you can deviate over 25% in special "unique circumstances". For example, in Canada, Labrador is its own riding despite only being 30K. Kenora is another example at 65K.  An example (using US sized districts) would be keeping all of the UP in Michigan in one district.
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2013, 10:24:49 PM »

Here is Washington DC:



All five districts are extremely solid Democratic ridings. Obama won the blue district on the eastern side of the Anacostia River in 2008 98.8-.08 over McCain. 2 districts are big majority Black (blue and green), 1 is majority Black with a large Hispanic population (yellow), 1 is majority white with a large Black population (purple) and 1 district has a big white majority (red).

Some name possibilities:

Red: Washington West--Georgetown
Yellow: Washington North
Green: Washington Northeast
Blue: Washington Southeast (or perhaps Fort Dupont--Anacostia)
Purple: Washington--Capitol (or Washington Center)
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2013, 10:45:49 PM »

Here is Washington DC:



All five districts are extremely solid Democratic ridings. Obama won the blue district on the eastern side of the Anacostia River in 2008 98.8-.08 over McCain. 2 districts are big majority Black (blue and green), 1 is majority Black with a large Hispanic population (yellow), 1 is majority white with a large Black population (purple) and 1 district has a big white majority (red).

Some name possibilities:

Red: Washington West--Georgetown
Yellow: Washington North
Green: Washington Northeast
Blue: Washington Southeast (or perhaps Fort Dupont--Anacostia)
Purple: Washington--Capitol (or Washington Center)

I unfortunately didn't have time when I posted them last night.

Red: Washington Northwest—Georgetown
Yellow: Washington North—Howard—Pentworth
Green: Washington Northeast—National Arboretum
Blue: Washington—Anacostia
Purple: Washington—Capitol Hill—Downtown

Let me know if I did anything wrong.
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2013, 11:09:54 PM »

What, no names? That's half the fun!
^^^

And keep in mind the difference between Canadian and British naming conventions. Wink
And Australian
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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2013, 11:23:46 PM »

Here is Washington DC:



All five districts are extremely solid Democratic ridings. Obama won the blue district on the eastern side of the Anacostia River in 2008 98.8-.08 over McCain. 2 districts are big majority Black (blue and green), 1 is majority Black with a large Hispanic population (yellow), 1 is majority white with a large Black population (purple) and 1 district has a big white majority (red).

Some name possibilities:

Red: Washington West--Georgetown
Yellow: Washington North
Green: Washington Northeast
Blue: Washington Southeast (or perhaps Fort Dupont--Anacostia)
Purple: Washington--Capitol (or Washington Center)

I unfortunately didn't have time when I posted them last night.

Red: Washington Northwest—Georgetown
Yellow: Washington North—Howard—Pentworth
Green: Washington Northeast—National Arboretum
Blue: Washington—Anacostia
Purple: Washington—Capitol Hill—Downtown

Let me know if I did anything wrong.


"Downtown" is never used in a riding's name. The preference is for "Centre" or in this case it would be "Center".  I don't think "National Arboretum" belongs in a riding name either. "Capitol Hill" sounds nice, but may not be appropriate either. What about "Beltway"? Perhaps just calling it "Washington Center" would be best.
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2013, 01:11:23 AM »

As you can see on the map, only a tiny portion of the Beltway in the very south is actually in the District.
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2013, 01:52:22 AM »




Maine, 12 ridings. Results are from 2008.

1-Blue: Aroostook-Washington: 93.9% White, 52.4% Obama
2-Green: Bangor: 94.1% White, 53.3% Obama
3-Dark Magenta: Somerset-North Penobscot-Piscataquis: 96.5% White, 49.1% Obama
4-Red: Oxford-Franklin: 96.3% White, 57.1% Obama
5-Gold: Hancock-Waldo: 96.4% White, 56.4% Obama
6-Teal: Knox-Sagadahoc-Lincoln: 96.3% White, 57.3% Obama
7-Dark Gray: Augusta-Kennebec: 95.2% White, 57.2% Obama
8-Slate Blue: Lewiston-Auburn-Androscoggin: 91.9% White, 56.5% Obama
9-Cyan: South York: 95.4% White, 62.3% Obama
10-Deep Pink: North York-Gorham: 95.9% White, 55.0% Obama
11-Chartreuse: Windham-Falmouth-East Cumberland: 94.4% White, 60.4% Obama
12-Cornflower Blue: Portland-Scarborough-Cape Elizabeth: 87.5% White, 71.1% Obama
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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2013, 07:12:06 AM »

As you can see on the map, only a tiny portion of the Beltway in the very south is actually in the District.

*Looks it up* Sorry, apparently I had no idea what the beltway was. I got it confused with the Beltline in Calgary, and I thought it was the region from the White House to the US Capitol.

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Remember, directionals almost always come after the place name. And are usually dropped entirely from county names. (eg Glengarry-Prescott-Russell is not Glengarry North-Prescott-Russell)
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2013, 09:35:57 AM »




Maine, 12 ridings. Results are from 2008.

1-Blue: Aroostook-Washington: 93.9% White, 52.4% Obama
2-Green: Bangor: 94.1% White, 53.3% Obama
3-Dark Magenta: Somerset-North Penobscot-Piscataquis: 96.5% White, 49.1% Obama

I would name this Somerset-Penobscot-Piscataquis, since Bangor is treated as being separate from the remainder of the county, even though it is the bulk of the county population.

Are there Canadian conventions for ordering of names?   Alphabetical, geographic, or population?

4-Red: Oxford-Franklin: 96.3% White, 57.1% Obama
5-Gold: Hancock-Waldo: 96.4% White, 56.4% Obama
6-Teal: Knox-Sagadahoc-Lincoln: 96.3% White, 57.3% Obama
7-Dark Gray: Augusta-Kennebec: 95.2% White, 57.2% Obama

Waterville is the more populous urban area in the county.  I'd either add it or drop Augusta.

8-Slate Blue: Lewiston-Auburn-Androscoggin: 91.9% White, 56.5% Obama

Is the Androscoggin necessary, given the dominance of Lewiston and Auburn?

9-Cyan: South York: 95.4% White, 62.3% Obama

York South

10-Deep Pink: North York-Gorham: 95.9% White, 55.0% Obama

York North-Gorham

11-Chartreuse: Windham-Falmouth-East Cumberland: 94.4% White, 60.4% Obama

Is Brunswick a better name for Cumberland East, since it is the only area that is really a distinct population center from Portland.

12-Cornflower Blue: Portland-Scarborough-Cape Elizabeth: 87.5% White, 71.1% Obama

Given the size difference, would this be Portland?

Can a 3rd district be placed in Cumberland County if it meant a 13th district for Maine?
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2013, 10:01:43 AM »

RE: name order; there is no real convention, I think. I suppose typically you start with the most populous, and then go by geography.
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2013, 12:26:57 PM »

Wyoming


All five districts are very Republican and all are pretty white.

Some names:

Yellow: Jackson-Cody-Lander
Red: Sheridan-Gillette
Purple: Casper-Powder River
Green: Red Desert-Medicine Bow
Blue: Cheyenne-Platte-Goshen
 
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2013, 02:16:29 PM »

Here is Washington DC:



All five districts are extremely solid Democratic ridings. Obama won the blue district on the eastern side of the Anacostia River in 2008 98.8-.08 over McCain. 2 districts are big majority Black (blue and green), 1 is majority Black with a large Hispanic population (yellow), 1 is majority white with a large Black population (purple) and 1 district has a big white majority (red).

Some name possibilities:

Red: Washington West--Georgetown
Yellow: Washington North
Green: Washington Northeast
Blue: Washington Southeast (or perhaps Fort Dupont--Anacostia)
Purple: Washington--Capitol (or Washington Center)

I unfortunately didn't have time when I posted them last night.

Red: Washington Northwest—Georgetown
Yellow: Washington North—Howard—Pentworth
Green: Washington Northeast—National Arboretum
Blue: Washington—Anacostia
Purple: Washington—Capitol Hill—Downtown

Let me know if I did anything wrong.


"Downtown" is never used in a riding's name. The preference is for "Centre" or in this case it would be "Center".  I don't think "National Arboretum" belongs in a riding name either. "Capitol Hill" sounds nice, but may not be appropriate either. What about "Beltway"? Perhaps just calling it "Washington Center" would be best.

Washington Center or Washington—Capitol Hill are both appropriate, I think.  The north one is probably more appropriately Washington—Columbia Heights, though Petworth is also a thing.  For northeast, maybe Washington Northeast—Brookland or Washington Northeast—Brentwood?  Washington Northeast—University Heights?  Ugh.  Lots of no-name neighborhoods up in there.
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2013, 02:28:09 PM »
« Edited: July 29, 2013, 02:37:51 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

It would be pretty neat to find a single politician who could be for each riding. For example, I could see Eleanor Holmes Norton taking Washington-Anacostia etc.

How many people are needed per riding in Canada?
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2013, 02:40:57 PM »

Here is Washington DC:



All five districts are extremely solid Democratic ridings. Obama won the blue district on the eastern side of the Anacostia River in 2008 98.8-.08 over McCain. 2 districts are big majority Black (blue and green), 1 is majority Black with a large Hispanic population (yellow), 1 is majority white with a large Black population (purple) and 1 district has a big white majority (red).

Some name possibilities:

Red: Washington West--Georgetown
Yellow: Washington North
Green: Washington Northeast
Blue: Washington Southeast (or perhaps Fort Dupont--Anacostia)
Purple: Washington--Capitol (or Washington Center)

I unfortunately didn't have time when I posted them last night.

Red: Washington Northwest—Georgetown
Yellow: Washington North—Howard—Pentworth
Green: Washington Northeast—National Arboretum
Blue: Washington—Anacostia
Purple: Washington—Capitol Hill—Downtown

Let me know if I did anything wrong.


"Downtown" is never used in a riding's name. The preference is for "Centre" or in this case it would be "Center".  I don't think "National Arboretum" belongs in a riding name either. "Capitol Hill" sounds nice, but may not be appropriate either. What about "Beltway"? Perhaps just calling it "Washington Center" would be best.

Washington Center or Washington—Capitol Hill are both appropriate, I think.  The north one is probably more appropriately Washington—Columbia Heights, though Petworth is also a thing.  For northeast, maybe Washington Northeast—Brookland or Washington Northeast—Brentwood?  Washington Northeast—University Heights?  Ugh.  Lots of no-name neighborhoods up in there.

Capitol Hill is referring to the neighborhood in DC, not that actual capitol grounds. 

Red: Washington Northwest—Georgetown
Yellow: Washington North—Columbia Heights—Pentworth
Green: Washington Northeast—Deanwood—Trinidad
Blue: Washington Southeast—Anacostia
Purple: Washington Center—Capitol Hill—Foggy Bottom
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