Update Season IX - "CAD, Kenya, CAD, Kenya, CAD, Kenya, CAD"

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Blaming every person with a pre-existing condition for his illness isn't just stupendously ignorant. It's also incredibly callous. I sincerely hope you never experience the indignity of living with a chronic condition and being unable to afford medical care, either because of insurance costs or more direct expenses. Nobody in the United States deserves that kind of indignity.

When the hell did I do this?  At no point did I ever say that every person with a pre-existing condition is to blame for his/her pre-existing condition.  I haven't even said that every diabetic is to blame for his/her diabetes.  What's stupendously ignorant is the fact that you've seemed to infer that from thin air.

Also, I never even said that people with pre-existing conditions should be allowed to be denied health care.  In fact I said the complete opposite ("Exactly... I have no problem with people with preexisting conditions being insured, but don't take advantage of the system.").  I said that it's one of the best options, but then you need to mandate that everyone has insurance.  Yes, requiring people with preexisting conditions to be able to get insured is a good thing, but people like Jeff throw a wrench in the system working.  They are to healthcare what irrational consumers are to economic systems.  The system can't work properly when people act irrationally.

[Lief 🗽]

Inks' America: If you don't eat enough vegetables, then you don't get to have healthcare.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Inks' America: If you don't eat enough vegetables, then you don't get to have healthcare.

That's not what I said, and you know it.  Don't be a mindless hack.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Not to club a dead seal here... but why on earth would you order a big ole' heap of chocolate cake and ice cream if

1)  You are constantly worrying about your weight and trying to lose weight.

2)  You get migraines from eating chocolate that can apparently be debilitating?

There is a thing called substitution.  Why didn't you just stop by McDonalds and get a twist cone?  You really really enjoy McDonalds. 

There's not having any self control.. and then there's Monster Cake at Cheddars... I mean, coooome on.

[opebo]

I don't understand why he's so fat.  I mean - I eat whatever I want and am quite old, but I'm not that fat.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Once that is over, I'm hoping we can have another ECHO group where guys get together, talk about guy things, what we struggle with, encourage each other, build each other up, correct each other if necessary.  Whatever is said in that group stays in that group.  The guys don't even tell their wives unless they need to.

Does the porn addiction come up? 

[WalterMitty]

I don't understand why he's so fat.  I mean - I eat whatever I want and am quite old, but I'm not that fat.

1.  he eats a lot.  4 sloppy joes was his idea of cutting back.

2.  he doesnt exercise.  at all.  none. zilch.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Once that is over, I'm hoping we can have another ECHO group where guys get together, talk about guy things, what we struggle with, encourage each other, build each other up, correct each other if necessary.  Whatever is said in that group stays in that group.  The guys don't even tell their wives unless they need to.

Does the porn addiction come up? 

It does come up every now and then.

[Joe Biden 2020]

I don't understand why he's so fat.  I mean - I eat whatever I want and am quite old, but I'm not that fat.

1.  he eats a lot.  4 sloppy joes was his idea of cutting back.

2.  he doesnt exercise.  at all.  none. zilch.

You'll be happy to note that I haven't had sloppy joes since that quadruple bypass sandwich session.

[memphis]

I hate the part of Obamacare that made it so that companies have to ensure people with preexisting conditions.

Also, a major lol@ his dislike for the consumer who act irrationally. That's all of them. Every day. People are wildly emotional creatures.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I think what Inks means if he hates people who abuse the system. I am fine with preexisting conditions and I think it is a change we needed, but that doesn't mean it doesn't annoy the crap out of me when someone like Bushie, who has no self control and on the verge of diabetes, eats monster cake and develops migraines only to simply get the medicine afterwards to stop them so he can eat monster cake once again. Or his dad getting diabetes and then laughing about it while "considering" changing their horrendous diet when they will likely simply shoot up insulin till they all die while eating the same things.

I am fine with people who genuinely need healthcare getting it. No one should be blocked from having their cancer treated or whatever else, but Bushie and his family just irk me to no end the way they approach life. It's truly selfish.

[King]

I agree with Inks, but my final solution doesn't involve denying access to healthcare.  Instead, I want us to shift farm subsidies to produce and away from grain--driving down the cost of vegetables, fruits, and grass-fed livestock.  People respond to financial incentives.  Make Doritos and bread cost twice as much and they'll be less consumed.

It would also help the whole border issue if Mexican corn and wheat become more financially viable than marijuana and coca.

But, of course, all of this would be soundly defeated for being too socialist.

[Lief 🗽]

Yeah, the ridiculous thing about Inks' position is that he wants to punish people for making a choice that they don't have. All this diet stuff is largely decided by corporations and government policies; individuals have very little say in it unless they make a concerted effort. Food corporations spend millions and millions of dollars developing addicting, unhealthy foods, and then additional millions in advertising and marketing convincing people to eat them. And once a kid's palate develops, based on fatty, sugary, high cholesterol foods, as we've seen with Bushie, even normal foods like salad are disgusting and inedible.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Yeah, the ridiculous thing about Inks' position is that he wants to punish people for making a choice that they don't have. All this diet stuff is largely decided by corporations and government policies; individuals have very little say in it unless they make a concerted effort. Food corporations spend millions and millions of dollars developing addicting, unhealthy foods, and then additional millions in advertising and marketing convincing people to eat them. And once a kid's palette develops, based on fatty, sugary, high cholesterol foods, as we've seen with Bushie, even normal foods like salad are disgusting and inedible.

You're spot on about that, which is why I argue that he never will lose weight or change his diet because it takes a strong person to do it, and he and his family are not strong. They always take the easy route because it is easy.

[opebo]

Food corporations spend millions and millions of dollars developing addicting, unhealthy foods, and then additional millions in advertising and marketing convincing people to eat them. And once a kid's palette develops, based on fatty, sugary, high cholesterol foods...

You're spot on about that, which is why I argue that he never will lose weight or change his diet because it takes a strong person to do it, and he and his family are not strong. They always take the easy route because it is easy.

Nothing poor people face in a capitalist society is 'easy', Duke.  A better way to phrase your post would have been that any change would be incredibly hard, almost impossible, and also to note that what makes people 'strong' as you call it is not any internal character but their class status/background.

[memphis]

I think what Inks means if he hates people who abuse the system. I am fine with preexisting conditions and I think it is a change we needed, but that doesn't mean it doesn't annoy the crap out of me when someone like Bushie, who has no self control and on the verge of diabetes, eats monster cake and develops migraines only to simply get the medicine afterwards to stop them so he can eat monster cake once again. Or his dad getting diabetes and then laughing about it while "considering" changing their horrendous diet when they will likely simply shoot up insulin till they all die while eating the same things.

I am fine with people who genuinely need healthcare getting it. No one should be blocked from having their cancer treated or whatever else, but Bushie and his family just irk me to no end the way they approach life. It's truly selfish.

Getting diabetes and making poor food choices is not selfish. It's foolish. Advocating large tax cuts for yourself while demonizing people on food stamps is selfish. See the distinction?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I think what Inks means if he hates people who abuse the system. I am fine with preexisting conditions and I think it is a change we needed, but that doesn't mean it doesn't annoy the crap out of me when someone like Bushie, who has no self control and on the verge of diabetes, eats monster cake and develops migraines only to simply get the medicine afterwards to stop them so he can eat monster cake once again. Or his dad getting diabetes and then laughing about it while "considering" changing their horrendous diet when they will likely simply shoot up insulin till they all die while eating the same things.

I am fine with people who genuinely need healthcare getting it. No one should be blocked from having their cancer treated or whatever else, but Bushie and his family just irk me to no end the way they approach life. It's truly selfish.

Getting diabetes and making poor food choices is not selfish. It's foolish. Advocating large tax cuts for yourself while demonizing people on food stamps is selfish. See the distinction?

Oh Memphis, you seem to have this habit of insinuating things like Bushie does that simply are not there.

Where have I advocated large tax cuts for myself? I firmly believe in a progressive system. If you make more, you should pay more. But this isn't about my personal tax beliefs.

Bushie and his family's behavior is selfish. It's all about them because they know they can just take meds until they die and continue eating what they want. It's selfish because they cost others money which they use Indian medicine, etc. It's their right to do it, but it's still selfish all the same.

Unless, of course, you think they aren't smart enough to be selfish. Then they are fools

[memphis]

I think what Inks means if he hates people who abuse the system. I am fine with preexisting conditions and I think it is a change we needed, but that doesn't mean it doesn't annoy the crap out of me when someone like Bushie, who has no self control and on the verge of diabetes, eats monster cake and develops migraines only to simply get the medicine afterwards to stop them so he can eat monster cake once again. Or his dad getting diabetes and then laughing about it while "considering" changing their horrendous diet when they will likely simply shoot up insulin till they all die while eating the same things.

I am fine with people who genuinely need healthcare getting it. No one should be blocked from having their cancer treated or whatever else, but Bushie and his family just irk me to no end the way they approach life. It's truly selfish.

Getting diabetes and making poor food choices is not selfish. It's foolish. Advocating large tax cuts for yourself while demonizing people on food stamps is selfish. See the distinction?

Oh Memphis, you seem to have this habit of insinuating things like Bushie does that simply are not there.

Where have I advocated large tax cuts for myself? I firmly believe in a progressive system. If you make more, you should pay more. But this isn't about my personal tax beliefs.

Bushie and his family's behavior is selfish. It's all about them because they know they can just take meds until they die and continue eating what they want. It's selfish because they cost others money which they use Indian medicine, etc. It's their right to do it, but it's still selfish all the same.

You're right. This isn't about your personal tax beliefs. I don't know why you assumed I was talking about you. It was merely a counter example.
Being selfish suggests improving your own position at the expense others. I don't see their lifestyle as an improvement over eating better and being more active. I wouldn't want to sit on front of a tv, eating Enchilada Casserole and chocolate cake all day, while trying, if only half-heartedly, to summon the energy to walk for 15 minutes. Would you?
There are countless examples of Bushie acting selfishly throughout the Update. I don't see this as one of them.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Bushie's well being is in jeopardy as witnessed today by the fact he's so sick he can't get out of bed and can't stop napping.

If he doesn't make significant life changes CAD will be gone, because Bushie won't be awake during class or too sick to go.

[Joe Biden 2020]

So, today is pretty much a waste of a day, so far.  I didn't sleep well last night.  I went to bed at 2300, but was up and down in the bathroom 4 times in the first three hours.  I was finally able to fall asleep at 0200 and woke up at 0800.  I was very lethargic and not feeling well this morning, so I laid down again at 1030 and woke up at 1315.  So, the first  half of the day was pretty much a waste of a day.  I know I can't afford a nap with school starting in one week, so I don't know what was wrong with me this morning.  I've got to stay up the rest of the afternoon and evening so I can have any chance to sleep tonight.  This evening, I still have the vet appointment and the men's meeting so I'm hoping I can still make use of part of this day.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Bushie's well being is in jeopardy as witnessed today by the fact he's so sick he can't get out of bed and can't stop napping.

If he doesn't make significant life changes CAD will be gone, because Bushie won't be awake during class or too sick to go.

Today was just an aberration.  I'll get back on track tomorrow.  I'll be fine.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Bushie's well being is in jeopardy as witnessed today by the fact he's so sick he can't get out of bed and can't stop napping.

If he doesn't make significant life changes CAD will be gone, because Bushie won't be awake during class or too sick to go.

Today was just an aberration.  I'll get back on track tomorrow.  I'll be fine.

Your napping is not an aberration.  It's habitual.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Bushie's well being is in jeopardy as witnessed today by the fact he's so sick he can't get out of bed and can't stop napping.

If he doesn't make significant life changes CAD will be gone, because Bushie won't be awake during class or too sick to go.

Today was just an aberration.  I'll get back on track tomorrow.  I'll be fine.

Your napping is not an aberration.  It's habitual.

True, but I'll be fine just the same.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

CAD won't happen if you can't stay awake through an entire day. Do you have graded tests in this program and things that require you to do outside classwork? I couldn't imagine you will be able to do all your work while also napping all day.

[Paul Kemp]

Bushie's well being is in jeopardy as witnessed today by the fact he's so sick he can't get out of bed and can't stop napping.

If he doesn't make significant life changes CAD will be gone, because Bushie won't be awake during class or too sick to go.

Today was just an aberration.  I'll get back on track tomorrow.  I'll be fine.

Which track is that? The "Ice Cream and Cake for Dinner" or the "4 Sloppy Joes with No Exercise" track?