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barfbag
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« on: July 05, 2013, 08:07:29 PM »

Why the fascination with Hillary Clinton. 2008 showed she is very overrated by both parties. Republicans have a phobia of her being able to win so they freak out and overestimate her chances in order to get their base to the polls to vote against her. Democrats overestimate her chances because they're Democrats and have wishful liberal thinking. Sure, she could win the presidency, but it's very unrealistic to think she could beat Jeb Bush in FL or Perry in TX just because a poll in 2013 shows her doing well. Wouldn't we rather wait until every vote is cast to see if she wins FL or for all states for that matter?
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2013, 10:07:14 PM »

Why the fascination with Hillary Clinton. 2008 showed she is very overrated by both parties. Republicans have a phobia of her being able to win so they freak out and overestimate her chances in order to get their base to the polls to vote against her. Democrats overestimate her chances because they're Democrats and have wishful liberal thinking. Sure, she could win the presidency, but it's very unrealistic to think she could beat Jeb Bush in FL or Perry in TX just because a poll in 2013 shows her doing well. Wouldn't we rather wait until every vote is cast to see if she wins FL or for all states for that matter?

1. Political nostalgia for Bill Clinton with the possibility of such allowing Democrats to win back a bunch of Congressional seats, particularly in the South.

2. Democrats do not expect to win by simply promising to continue the legacy of  Barack Obama.

3. Hillary Clinton can address issues such as poverty that Barack Obama dared not bring up.

4. Few Democrats wish to see a Presidential defeat looming in 2016.

5. Of course much will change by November 2016. 

This is true but what are you saying? What I'm asking is how does this help Hillary Clinton win or more precisely are you saying this is why Democrats are in such support of her?
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barfbag
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2013, 07:02:29 PM »

Why the fascination with Hillary Clinton. 2008 showed she is very overrated by both parties. Republicans have a phobia of her being able to win so they freak out and overestimate her chances in order to get their base to the polls to vote against her. Democrats overestimate her chances because they're Democrats and have wishful liberal thinking. Sure, she could win the presidency, but it's very unrealistic to think she could beat Jeb Bush in FL or Perry in TX just because a poll in 2013 shows her doing well. Wouldn't we rather wait until every vote is cast to see if she wins FL or for all states for that matter?

1. Political nostalgia for Bill Clinton with the possibility of such allowing Democrats to win back a bunch of Congressional seats, particularly in the South.

2. Democrats do not expect to win by simply promising to continue the legacy of  Barack Obama.

3. Hillary Clinton can address issues such as poverty that Barack Obama dared not bring up.

4. Few Democrats wish to see a Presidential defeat looming in 2016.

5. Of course much will change by November 2016. 

This is true but what are you saying? What I'm asking is how does this help Hillary Clinton win or more precisely are you saying this is why Democrats are in such support of her?

So far they see others losing. "More of the same" rarely succeeds at the end of a second term.  The Democrats will need to use the Obama Presidency as a springboard to something better, and the compromises that the current President will have made to get day-to-day legislation passed will not be enough.  Obviously the Hard Right will offer change.

Hillary Clinton is obviously not seen as "more of the same".

Serving as his secretary of state may tie her to Obama. We'll have to see.
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