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« Reply #1325 on: July 23, 2015, 08:36:50 AM »

Fife reported last night that Harper's inner circle is pushing him to drop the writ in early August.
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« Reply #1326 on: July 23, 2015, 11:23:51 AM »

For Trudeau to lose Papineau, over 4k 2011 Bloc voters would need to swing to the NDP, assuming no swing towards (or against) Trudeau. I think it's possible. But not entirely probable. Too early to tell either way.
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« Reply #1327 on: July 23, 2015, 01:04:10 PM »

Cullen calls for NDP-Liberal coalition in a minority parliament.
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« Reply #1328 on: July 23, 2015, 01:57:42 PM »

Trudeau has said no way to a coalition.
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« Reply #1329 on: July 23, 2015, 02:23:29 PM »

Of course he did.  But let's see what happens. 
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« Reply #1330 on: July 23, 2015, 03:53:45 PM »

They'll vote down a Throne Speech if given the opportunity, no doubt about that.
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« Reply #1331 on: July 23, 2015, 04:05:25 PM »

I stand by my prediction that there won't be a coalition, but there will be something more structured than trying to bribe another party for every major vote.
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« Reply #1332 on: July 23, 2015, 06:00:43 PM »

Because we all need a good laugh. Interestingly, former Martin Board member Charles Bird supports Mendicino.
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« Reply #1333 on: July 23, 2015, 06:17:51 PM »

Assuming it's an NDP-led minority government, the Liberals will be wise not to be so pushy as to threaten an election every two weeks. They should vote for every NDP budget, while critiquing from the outside. Otherwise, the NDP will try (and probably succeed) to paint the Liberals as being so power-hungry they're willing to risk a return of the Big Bad Tories. They're steadily drip-feed embarrassing information about the Harper government as red meat to their base and to encourage the election of an unelectable Conservative leader.

And once the Liberals *do* force an early election, all the NDP needs to do is appeal for all voters who dislike Harper, run on their relatively moderate record, and win a solid majority (or a strong mandate if FPTP is abolished by then). The Liberal and Conservative leaders resign before 11 PM Eastern time on election night.

Therefore, the Liberals should at least outwardly cooperate with the NDP, while using every vote they disagree with them as an opportunity to distinguish themselves among more moderate voters who share antipathy towards Harper. This places them in a stronger spot to win in 2019.
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« Reply #1334 on: July 23, 2015, 06:20:33 PM »

Because we all need a good laugh. Interestingly, former Martin Board member Charles Bird supports Mendicino.

I honestly don't know why Eve Adams was placed in a must-win urban riding where she has absolutely no connection. The Liberals should have milked Dimtri for all his dirt on Harper and then allowed Eve to run in an outer 905 riding which is not high on their target list. Somewhere like, say, Milton.
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« Reply #1335 on: July 23, 2015, 06:31:36 PM »

If the Grits want to make our jokes their problem, they're more than welcome. Only Stronach herself brokering this switch would have made it more hilarious.
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« Reply #1336 on: July 23, 2015, 08:29:46 PM »

Will Harper support Senate abolition?

https://twitter.com/IvisonJ/status/624366843713622020
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« Reply #1337 on: July 23, 2015, 08:47:16 PM »

I honestly don't know why Eve Adams was placed in a must-win urban riding where she has absolutely no connection. The Liberals should have milked Dimtri for all his dirt on Harper and then allowed Eve to run in an outer 905 riding which is not high on their target list. Somewhere like, say, Milton.

Yeah, that was really stupid.  Meanwhile Bill Morneau is being touted as a potential finance minister.  He was initially set to run in Don Valley West until the former MP objected.  Then he was sent to Toronto Centre, which is a terrible fit with the territory north of Bloor lopped off.  Why didn't they run him in Eglinton-Lawrence where he could directly challenge Joe Oliver?
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« Reply #1338 on: July 23, 2015, 10:10:52 PM »

This is fycking insane. He might as well wish for unicorns in every household.
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« Reply #1339 on: July 24, 2015, 06:06:39 AM »
« Edited: July 24, 2015, 06:08:39 AM by Holmes »

There's just no way Harper will announce he's for Senate abolition, right? He can't be that stupid? How many Senators has he nominated? How many of them are involved in scandals? That'd be such a transparent opportunistic flip flop.
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« Reply #1340 on: July 24, 2015, 06:54:47 AM »

I honestly don't know why Eve Adams was placed in a must-win urban riding where she has absolutely no connection. The Liberals should have milked Dimtri for all his dirt on Harper and then allowed Eve to run in an outer 905 riding which is not high on their target list. Somewhere like, say, Milton.

Yeah, that was really stupid.  Meanwhile Bill Morneau is being touted as a potential finance minister.  He was initially set to run in Don Valley West until the former MP objected.  Then he was sent to Toronto Centre, which is a terrible fit with the territory north of Bloor lopped off.  Why didn't they run him in Eglinton-Lawrence where he could directly challenge Joe Oliver?

On second thought, maybe Dmitri demanded a must-win seat for Eve in exchange for all his dirt on Harper. And now that Eve has her seat, he can give his dirt at his leisurely pace. Well played, sir.
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« Reply #1341 on: July 24, 2015, 07:19:50 AM »

Eglinton-Lawrence on Sunday looks to be extremely messy. Not quite Iggy/Copps messy, but close.
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« Reply #1342 on: July 24, 2015, 08:55:57 AM »

RIP Canadian Senate. FF.
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« Reply #1343 on: July 24, 2015, 09:01:31 AM »

I hope Canadians are smart enough to understand that the Senate is impossible to abolish and will see right through Steve's latest stunt? Right?
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« Reply #1344 on: July 24, 2015, 11:36:59 AM »

Two polls today.

http://poll.forumresearch.com/post/324/ndp-minority-seen/

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/07/24/tories-take-huge-lead-in-latest-poll

The latter is almost certainly an outlier.
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« Reply #1345 on: July 24, 2015, 11:39:43 AM »

The Mainstreet poll's face values don't include leaners. With leaners it is 35 CPC, 29 NDP, 27 LPC. It's also their first federal poll so we don't know if we're seeing a trend.
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« Reply #1346 on: July 24, 2015, 11:47:36 AM »

Absolutely brutal Delacourt: why does the LPC exist?

Dippers here may be short on cash, but their opponents are short on just about everything else.
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« Reply #1347 on: July 24, 2015, 11:52:21 AM »

Althia Raj saying that the Senate story is untrue.
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« Reply #1348 on: July 24, 2015, 12:44:13 PM »

Althia Raj saying that the Senate story is untrue.

So it was a trial balloon and the reaction online was so horrible Harper had to cancel it.
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« Reply #1349 on: July 24, 2015, 12:52:08 PM »

Ivison says his source told him the announcement got pulled once it leaked. Methinks it was the same source who said Harper could resign last winter.
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