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  Do comedians like Bill Maher hurt Democrats with rural/white voters?
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Author Topic: Do comedians like Bill Maher hurt Democrats with rural/white voters?  (Read 1134 times)
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« on: May 17, 2013, 09:31:16 pm »

Just something that popped into my head.
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2013, 10:07:22 pm »

"I was going to vote for Obama, but then Bill Maher made fun of Christians on his show."

I don't think this is very common, and one of the most strongly religious groups in America (black evangelicals) is also the most strongly Democratic.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2013, 08:10:52 am »

Well, I'm not suggesting that Bill Maher is solely responsible for the rural/white exodus, just that he adds to the perception that liberals view all Christians and people from rural areas as dumb, uneducated hicks.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2013, 10:12:41 am »

The contempt some urban Democrats display toward rural interests definitely doesn't help the donkeys, especially since a fair number of suburban voters like to idealize a bucolic rural lifestyle that never was.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2013, 10:43:08 am »

Well it ain't this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgJC4Pu_tbo
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2013, 12:15:59 pm »

Probably. What will be interesting is to see how the Democratic Party changes as they more and more realize that those who benefit the most from policies so longer support them. I can see Social Security and Unionism no longer being something that you have to support as a Democrat 20 years from but see things like strengthening universal healthcare, education and public transportation taking its place. This "poor-rich" divide has been becoming a "rural-urban" divide since the 60s.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2013, 05:26:10 pm »

I don't think it makes them dislike Democrats so much as it makes them resent their wealthier, city-dwelling white counterparts and the Republicans then use that to their advantage.

They dislike blacks for allegedly being welfare mooches. They dislike Hispanics for allegedly taking their jerbs. They dislike white liberals for looking down their noses at them and ridiculing them - not allegedly but in reality.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2013, 11:26:24 pm »

Obviously. Remember that some of the most liberal Presidents and politicians in American history-WJ Bryant, Harry Truman, and LBJ belonged to conservative Protestant sects.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2013, 08:00:11 am »

LBJ belonged to a fairly liberal church (Disciples of Christ)
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2013, 09:58:09 pm »

I always thought the Disciples were a conservative sect.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2013, 10:25:50 pm »

I always thought the Disciples were a conservative sect.

Nope.

They originated out of the 19th century Restoration Movement, most of whose descendants are fairly conservative, but they are a liberal ecumenical faction of it.  They have a congregational structure and other than a general belief in immersion baptism, there isn't anything I'd consider "conservative" in their practices.  They were the first major mainline church to have a woman leading them.  I also wouldn't be surprised if there were a merger between the Disciples of Christ and the United Church of Christ sometime in the next decade or two.  They already allow ministers ordained by one to lead a church of the other.
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2013, 08:11:08 am »

Yes, it's the Democrat equivalent to the GOP's issues with Asians & Hispanics. If the GOP was winning elections, I'm sure the blue avatars would be lecturing the red ones about it.
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2013, 10:43:42 am »

It's the whole 'liberal New York elite' thing that Palin and similar love to bash.
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2013, 05:44:55 pm »

Taking the question literally, no, I don't think anyone really cares that much what a comedian says, much less base their vote on it. However, Maher types certainly do turn people off the party.
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2013, 05:51:00 pm »

Yes, it's the Democrat equivalent to the GOP's issues with Asians & Hispanics. If the GOP was winning elections, I'm sure the blue avatars would be lecturing the red ones about it.
What do you think was happening between 9/11 and the foreclosures? Republicans were saying that Democrats don't "get" the "average" American and that with "average" America aging, this country was going to trend more and more Republican.

Now, its the opposite. Fewer people are "average" and as a result, Republicans are losing.
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