Office of Chairman TNF: Red Army takes NM, UT, ID, AZ

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So why do you seek to disarm law enforcement? Both citizen and law enforcement need to have this important right to protect this country against the forces who would seek to destroy our republic from all enemies foreign and domestic.

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So why do you seek to disarm law enforcement? Both citizen and law enforcement need to have this important right to protect this country against the forces who would seek to destroy our republic from all enemies foreign and domestic.

As it stands the right to bear arms for the average Atlasian is restricted based upon a number of criteria, which renders law enforcement, specifically the police, with a near monopoly on force in Atlasia. My proposal will remedy that inequality and allow the average Atlasian to be on a more equal footing with the police when it comes to the issue of firearms ownership and use.

You happen to be going in the wrong way to equalize this issue. The people need to be as strongly armed as the police are. If not a little bit stronger. Including giving back the right of owning semi and fully automatics like AR-15's and the like. Say the military of the national starts publicly going after law abiding citizen without cause, the citizen and the law enforcement officer need to be as well armed as our military with the exception of the WMD.

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TNF, your views on Israel are extremely flawed. Israel has been the one acting in self-defense since May of 1948. When nearly every country in your region wants to drive you into the sea and have attempted to do so on numerous occasions, wouldn't you understand why the have to maintain the military that they do. The sanctions against Israel by the Atlasian government must end and we treat all countries as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and both Ron and Rand Paul and that is this. Peace, commerce and honest trade with all nations and entangling alliances with none. With that said, we should end all foreign aid by this government to even the playing field. Israel's enemies receive nearly ten times what Israel does in any sort of aid.

Black Friday is not a holiday. Forcing businesses to double pay on that day will hurt the economy.

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TNF, your views on Israel are extremely flawed. Israel has been the one acting in self-defense since May of 1948. When nearly every country in your region wants to drive you into the sea and have attempted to do so on numerous occasions, wouldn't you understand why the have to maintain the military that they do. The sanctions against Israel by the Atlasian government must end and we treat all countries as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and both Ron and Rand Paul and that is this. Peace, commerce and honest trade with all nations and entangling alliances with none. With that said, we should end all foreign aid by this government to even the playing field. Israel's enemies receive nearly ten times what Israel does in any sort of aid.

Black Friday is not a holiday. Forcing businesses to double pay on that day will hurt the economy.

Israel is a colonial state intent upon the conquest of and expansion into the Palestinian territories. I do not find it appropriate that the Republic of Atlasia should arm those who aim to wipe out those living in one region in order to confiscate their lands and set up prime real estate there. I am fully supportive of any and all means to end foreign aid and would only wish to see the Republic authorize such aid to help nations being attacked by other nations. Israel is under attack from no one and thus deserves not a single dime from the Republic of Atlasia, especially when it can afford its own defense.

Actually, Black Friday, at least in the context of Atlasia, is a holiday. President Nix made it so on September 7 with his signing of the Black Friday Means Black Friday Act of 2013. For the record, I don't give a damn about the increased costs some businesses may face as a result of that legislation. If it's going to cost them too much to stay open on Black Friday -- so be it. Either they'll pay their workers what they are worth or they'll give them the day off. It's a win-win situation for everyone but the greedy fat-cat employer, the only person with whom you seem to have sympathy.

You should give a care. It's not a holiday and that's that. The employer should win as well. We know you have no respect for the business owner given your socialist proclivities.

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My opponent likes to pretend he's a moderate, but his actions today seem to speak otherwise. Governor Lumine has of course made known his interest in joining a vile "think-tank" named after known anti-semite and Nazi-sympathizer Walt Disney, and is even considering seeking the Vice Chairmanship of that organization as we speak.

I could consider being Vice-Chairman, but forgive me if I wait a few hours or a couple of days to see if more people join. In the meantime, may I suggest changing Walt Disney for James Lovelock? The man is more important than Disney on the field, his Gaia hypothesis was been extremely relevant (as Superique pointed out to me a few days ago), and he might be a less controversial choice.

As if that weren't enough, the Governor has praised the election of JCL, a known far-right, homophobic reactionary who supports banning abortion and destroying working class living standards by supporting "right-to-work" legislation and the curtailment of the welfare state.

Unlike my opponent, I will not pander to the far-right to win it's vote for Senate. My goal is the destruction of capitalism and all unjust hierarchical systems which enslave working people in this country. My opponent is fine with cozying up with fascism if it means he'll be able to get some votes in the process.

The only language we should be speaking to fascists is that of fire, of brimstone, of lead.

TNF FOR SENATE
Fight Nazis, not Freedom

I make no bones about it that I'm an advocate of market based economics , rather than government based solutions, to promote job growth.  Your brand of socialism has failed every time it has been tried. Just look at what you guys exacerbated in the Pacific region.

The faith communities have much better ideas on how to help the less fortunate than the government. That's why the government should look to them for help on this issue. It's also why family matters should be handled closer to home. The national government simply doesn't cut it.

Yes I am passionately pro-life but I'm wanting to work out a fair and just compromise that my regions citizens want with as little, preferably none, intervention by the Nyman government as possible. One size doesn't always fit all.

Homophobia implies I fear the LGBT community. That couldn't be further from the truth. While I oppose gay marriage and always will, I've not made a single move to change the current laws to hinder gay rights in Atlasia. Marriage should be a strictly regional legal matter.

Right to Work legislation is legislation to defend individuals against forced union membership. How is that reactionary? It's common sense. If you've looked at specific tax policies I've outlined in my office thread you'll see that no one pays more than 40% in income taxes.

I'll give you reactionary when it comes to my healthcare policy. I sure want to restore the free market it's rightful place in this industry. Sure, I'm ok with a small safety net to help the poor but let people decide on how they conduct their healthcare decisions. Quit making those for them.

As it is, I'm proud to endorse your opponent. We need more like him in the Atlasian Senate.

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You speak as if private social assistance is deficient and the government is a worker of miracles. That's clearly just not the case. Churches and youth organizations have done more to combat hunger and poverty than government. Take my home of Appalachia for example, government intervention has entirely failed to solve the issue of chronic poverty. Meanwhile, private organizations like Workforce West Virginia and churches have made large strides in combating extreme poverty.

As far as college aid, the big government top down approach has COMPLETELY failed to make college affordable. An education gets more and more expensive the more the federal government spends. That's not a coincidence. Private aid, however, scales to the value offered by an education. It injects free market variables and increases efficiency. It is far superior to government aid. This bill devastates that opportunity.

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The only thing this bill "devastates" is the ability of social parasites to pass on wealth they stole from the working class to their children.

The wealthy are not the social parasites. What is your problem with individuals passing their assets and wealth to their kids? They didn't steal anything from those of us in the working class. We work in their businesses and they pay us. How is it wrong for job creators to profit from the good the working class does for them? It actually gives them more money to promote further job creation.  Keaton has totally nailed it on the head.  The government should make a better argument for why it should have the level of control it currently has rather than the faith communities and youth organizations because the current level of government control is just way too much.

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So you're not just bankrupting Social Security, you're bankrupting the entire federal budget?

Not sure how that would bankrupt the entire federal budget when there are plenty of cuts that could be made elsewhere (especially in the realm of military spending and the national security state) and plenty of tax increases we could enact upon the wealthy to make up the difference.

Putting the tax burden on the wealthy to maintain a failed and broken entitlement system is simply unjust TNF.  It's the moral obligation of our government to have a strong defense apparatus. Strong but one that's reluctant in use and still seeking to preserve as much life and liberty as possible even in the situation. Look up the Just War Doctrine taught by St. Augustine and expounded upon by Dr. Ron Paul. Then you'll understand why a strong national defense is needed.

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Yankee is the rightful PPT. You lost the race even with your votes counting.  Stand down your directive immediately.

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Official seal of the Office of the President Pro Tempore of the Senate

SENATE DIRECTIVE NO. 1
Proletarianization of the Senate
President Pro Tempore of the Senate and Regional Senator TNF of the Midwest

The salary for members of the Senate shall be reduced from its present $174,000 per year to that of the average median income for a skilled worker. Henceforth, the salary for all members of the Senate shall be $50,000 per year, adjusted annually to account for increases in the average median income for skilled labor in the Republic of Atlasia.

Henceforth, the Senate leadership shall no longer be paid a salary higher than what is paid to rank-and-file members of the Senate.

Henceforth, no Senator shall be permitted to claim an income outside that of income earned as a Senator, until his or her term has expired.

This directive shall take effect immediately.

Forbidding a senator from their private job and the rights of said income from private labor is a no no.

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Official seal of the Office of the President Pro Tempore of the Senate

SENATE DIRECTIVE NO. 2
Regulations concerning the Senate cafeteria
President Pro Tempore of the Senate and Regional Senator TNF of the Midwest

The Senate cafeteria shall henceforth only procure materials from worker owned and managed cooperatives. In cases where a worker owned or managed cooperative does not produce materials needed by the Senate cafeteria, the procurement of materials must be from a company that uses union labor.

All renovations to the Senate cafeteria, or to any part of the Senate chambers, shall henceforth be made with union labor.

The Senate cafeteria shall henceforth not employ managers except those chosen by the workers of the Senate cafeteria themselves by secret ballot. The workers shall manage the cafeteria themselves, set working hours, and determine their roles at work by democratic means from this point forward.

Seems to me a good time for some good ol' fashion union bustin'.

Hey, you're not a Senator, so perhaps you shouldn't tell the Senate how to manage its employees.

Forced unionization is immoral dude. Sounds like someone needs to read Hayek and Mises.

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Official seal of the Office of the President Pro Tempore of the Senate

SENATE DIRECTIVE NO. 2
Regulations concerning the Senate cafeteria
President Pro Tempore of the Senate and Regional Senator TNF of the Midwest

The Senate cafeteria shall henceforth only procure materials from worker owned and managed cooperatives. In cases where a worker owned or managed cooperative does not produce materials needed by the Senate cafeteria, the procurement of materials must be from a company that uses union labor.

All renovations to the Senate cafeteria, or to any part of the Senate chambers, shall henceforth be made with union labor.

The Senate cafeteria shall henceforth not employ managers except those chosen by the workers of the Senate cafeteria themselves by secret ballot. The workers shall manage the cafeteria themselves, set working hours, and determine their roles at work by democratic means from this point forward.

Seems to me a good time for some good ol' fashion union bustin'.

Hey, you're not a Senator, so perhaps you shouldn't tell the Senate how to manage its employees.

Forced unionization is immoral dude. Sounds like someone needs to read Hayek and Mises.

What chapter and verse is that in the NIV version?

Uh I read ESV KJV, or NLT most of the time.

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Official seal of the Office of the President Pro Tempore of the Senate

SENATE DIRECTIVE NO. 2
Regulations concerning the Senate cafeteria
President Pro Tempore of the Senate and Regional Senator TNF of the Midwest

The Senate cafeteria shall henceforth only procure materials from worker owned and managed cooperatives. In cases where a worker owned or managed cooperative does not produce materials needed by the Senate cafeteria, the procurement of materials must be from a company that uses union labor.

All renovations to the Senate cafeteria, or to any part of the Senate chambers, shall henceforth be made with union labor.

The Senate cafeteria shall henceforth not employ managers except those chosen by the workers of the Senate cafeteria themselves by secret ballot. The workers shall manage the cafeteria themselves, set working hours, and determine their roles at work by democratic means from this point forward.

Seems to me a good time for some good ol' fashion union bustin'.

Hey, you're not a Senator, so perhaps you shouldn't tell the Senate how to manage its employees.

Forced unionization is immoral dude. Sounds like someone needs to read Hayek and Mises.

What chapter and verse is that in the NIV version?

Uh I read ESV KJV, or NLT most of the time.

Your Bible-illiteracy disgusts me. Pick up an NRSV next time you go to the Bible store and read the real Bible.

I've also read Holman Christian Standard, The Geneva Bible (the one the reformers used). Why should I read the NRSV? Is that the one where they "politically correctify" the Bible

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Official seal of the Office of the President Pro Tempore of the Senate

SENATE DIRECTIVE NO. 2
Regulations concerning the Senate cafeteria
President Pro Tempore of the Senate and Regional Senator TNF of the Midwest

The Senate cafeteria shall henceforth only procure materials from worker owned and managed cooperatives. In cases where a worker owned or managed cooperative does not produce materials needed by the Senate cafeteria, the procurement of materials must be from a company that uses union labor.

All renovations to the Senate cafeteria, or to any part of the Senate chambers, shall henceforth be made with union labor.

The Senate cafeteria shall henceforth not employ managers except those chosen by the workers of the Senate cafeteria themselves by secret ballot. The workers shall manage the cafeteria themselves, set working hours, and determine their roles at work by democratic means from this point forward.

Seems to me a good time for some good ol' fashion union bustin'.

Hey, you're not a Senator, so perhaps you shouldn't tell the Senate how to manage its employees.

Forced unionization is immoral dude. Sounds like someone needs to read Hayek and Mises.

What chapter and verse is that in the NIV version?

Uh I read ESV KJV, or NLT most of the time.

Your Bible-illiteracy disgusts me. Pick up an NRSV next time you go to the Bible store and read the real Bible.

I've also read Holman Christian Standard, The Geneva Bible (the one the reformers used). Why should I read the NRSV? Is that the one where they "politically correctify" the Bible

It's the most accurate with regards to the original Hebrew and Greek texts, hence my statement that it was the "real Bible".

I'll have to look further into that version.

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You have not brought down the Federal Marriage Amendment. It is very well alive.

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You have not brought down the Federal Marriage Amendment. It is very well alive.

Why do you hate region rights?

I'm pro-regional rights. I just want Cassius's amendment to get an up or down vote. I've got something down the pike that you just may like regarding senatorial powers regarding this very subject.

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As noted right-wing lunatic Cassius has announced that he will be challenging me for the Midwest Regional Senate seat, I will in the coming days unveil my re-election program. For now, let it be known that I welcome Cassius to the race and will thoroughly enjoy debating his particular brand of parasitic-apologism in any public forum and challenging whatever kind of buffet for the rich he proposes as his campaign program.

First calling President Lumine a facist now calling your opponent a right-wing lunatic, this is low TNF. Quit with the lack of respect towards those who are the opposite of you in terms of political viewpoint.

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I have no respect for the class enemy.

I along with Cassius are friends of the working class.

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Rumors of the death of the Federalist Party are greatly exaggerated. Life support maybe but dead is not the case. So put your head chopping off instruments away.

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As reported in Izvestia, there has been a cowardly attempt upon the life of my colleague, Senator windjammer, today. A brave proletarian, who opened that mail-bomb, is unfortunately injured and in the hospital as a result of this cowardly act. I wish a fully and speedy recovery to Comrade-Postman, and will be sending him a get well basket with a bottle of the finest union-made and worker-owned wine as soon as I conclude this statement.

The recent rise in terrorist activity is unfortunate and stems from the uncertainties of life in a socioeconomic system that prioritizes profit over people and promotes ignorance, bigotry, and hatred. I will not call for empowering the bourgeois state to combat this act of violence, but I will instead reiterate a call to arms on the part of the working masses. If you see something, say something to your fellow worker, not to the police. Join the Nat Turner Brigade or form a local workers' militia of your own to police your own communities. To the workers in the Pacific, heading out on the picket line, I encourage you to defend your pickets against the bourgeois dogs that call themselves police officers and against right-wing vigilantism. Si se puede!

Quit blaming every bad event on the right. We abhor any attempt on the lives of our fellow public officials and citizens. Stay on your jobs. Talk to your local law enforcement. Work together to preserve the rule of law.

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Why would I encourage the working people of this country to speak with their enemies? 'Law enforcement' is a euphemistic way of speaking when what we're really referring to is the modern day descendant of the slave catcher.

The police are not the enemy of the working people. They are working people themselves. They chose to serve the public trust. You're problem is you cast all who serve the government as law enforcement officers as stooges blind to the problems of the people they serve and you think they are blindly loyal to the so called richer of us. You are so far from the truth on this matter. If folks would talk and dialogue to find solutions locally, violence and high crimes would drop like a serious rock.

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My office has received the following communique from what I can only assume are right-wing terrorists:

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In light of this, I would like to reiterate that I will not be swayed into silence by the enemies of the working class. I will continue to act openly in the spirit of the communist project and will continue to fight for workers. If the 'True Atlasian Patriots' wish to make an attempt upon my life, so be it. I will be waiting for them with my trusty rifle and nerves of steel.

Um TNF, that poster is right wing bub. These terrorists could care less if you're Labor,D-R, Federalist or otherwise. An attack on one of us is one on all of us. How can you be so blind to that.

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I know, JCL is just jealous because no one thought of him important enough to murder

That is irrelevant. When the attempt on TNF occurred I spoke in support of him against these people.

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I know, JCL is just jealous because no one thought of him important enough to murder

That is irrelevant. When the attempt on TNF occurred I spoke in support of him against these people.

I just love when you take every single thing posted on this forum with dead seriousness.

Im just trying to play the game as you are Kal.

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What you're attempting to do is illegal TNF. If your regional guard steps even one boot into Missouri, I will petition my governor and other legal authorities to arrest you.

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TNF, I am currently living out in the Republic of Ireland, but after reading this thread I have been convinced that your cause is righteous.

Please crush the reactionaries!

Here is a suggestion for the new flag of New Mexico:

Don't ya know that TNF forces have been completely removed from the disputed states. Law and Liberty are restored. TNF is hereby a fugitive from justice and should he step a boot back into the Mideast region, shall be arrested.