HI 2014 Congressional Elections

[morgieb]

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either. God forbid he actually face ONE competitive election to prove himself before having the seat for life (the main election in a Hawaii Senate race is obviously the Democratic primary).

Schatz isn't any more entitled to the seat than Hanabusa is. If he wins, then good. He earned it. But stop acting like Hanabusa shouldn't even run.

^^ This. Why should Abercrombie get to decide who is Senator for life from Hawaii? If Inouye doesn't have the right to decide his successor, neither does Abercrombie have the right to appoint someone for life. Schatz should be challenged and the people of Hawaii should get a choice.

Yes, but Hanabusa's fans are acting like "Inouye's wishes is the only consideration for me". That's a sh**t argument. At least some of Schatz's fans have been more coherent about their arguments.

[Sbane]

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either. God forbid he actually face ONE competitive election to prove himself before having the seat for life (the main election in a Hawaii Senate race is obviously the Democratic primary).

Schatz isn't any more entitled to the seat than Hanabusa is. If he wins, then good. He earned it. But stop acting like Hanabusa shouldn't even run.

^^ This. Why should Abercrombie get to decide who is Senator for life from Hawaii? If Inouye doesn't have the right to decide his successor, neither does Abercrombie have the right to appoint someone for life. Schatz should be challenged and the people of Hawaii should get a choice.

Yes, but Hanabusa's fans are acting like "Inouye's wishes is the only consideration for me". That's a sh**t argument. At least some of Schatz's fans have been more coherent about their arguments.

Really? I find their arguments to be the most incoherent. Just because someone got appointed Senator they shouldn't receive a primary challenge? No Senator should be immune from a challenge and most certainly not some Lieutenant Governor who got appointed by his Governor.

[Napoleon]

Just because someone got appointed Senator they shouldn't receive a primary challenge?

I think our argument is more like "offer a reason to vote for you in a primary besides some dead guy supporting you for the seat" and that still hasn't happened. Even Ed Case had ideological differences from Akaka when he made his primary challenge. And yes, I understand that in Hawaii many of the natives and Asian residents hold a reverence for their elders and the passed, but it's not really a solid political argument at all. A sense of entitlement makes Hanabusa seem more sour grapes about not being appointed than actually having a vision for the future.

[Zioneer]

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either. God forbid he actually face ONE competitive election to prove himself before having the seat for life (the main election in a Hawaii Senate race is obviously the Democratic primary).

Schatz isn't any more entitled to the seat than Hanabusa is. If he wins, then good. He earned it. But stop acting like Hanabusa shouldn't even run.

^^ This. Why should Abercrombie get to decide who is Senator for life from Hawaii? If Inouye doesn't have the right to decide his successor, neither does Abercrombie have the right to appoint someone for life. Schatz should be challenged and the people of Hawaii should get a choice.

Yes, but Hanabusa's fans are acting like "Inouye's wishes is the only consideration for me". That's a sh**t argument. At least some of Schatz's fans have been more coherent about their arguments.

Really? I find their arguments to be the most incoherent. Just because someone got appointed Senator they shouldn't receive a primary challenge? No Senator should be immune from a challenge and most certainly not some Lieutenant Governor who got appointed by his Governor.

Nobody thinks Schatz shouldn't be challenged, most of us just think that Hanabusa's challenge doesn't make sense.

[Sbane]

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either. God forbid he actually face ONE competitive election to prove himself before having the seat for life (the main election in a Hawaii Senate race is obviously the Democratic primary).

Schatz isn't any more entitled to the seat than Hanabusa is. If he wins, then good. He earned it. But stop acting like Hanabusa shouldn't even run.

^^ This. Why should Abercrombie get to decide who is Senator for life from Hawaii? If Inouye doesn't have the right to decide his successor, neither does Abercrombie have the right to appoint someone for life. Schatz should be challenged and the people of Hawaii should get a choice.

Yes, but Hanabusa's fans are acting like "Inouye's wishes is the only consideration for me". That's a sh**t argument. At least some of Schatz's fans have been more coherent about their arguments.

Really? I find their arguments to be the most incoherent. Just because someone got appointed Senator they shouldn't receive a primary challenge? No Senator should be immune from a challenge and most certainly not some Lieutenant Governor who got appointed by his Governor.

Nobody thinks Schatz shouldn't be challenged, most of us just think that Hanabusa's challenge doesn't make sense.

I think Hanabusa challenging him would make most sense considering her current position. Who else do you have in mind?

[Zioneer]

The seat doesn't belong to Schatz either. God forbid he actually face ONE competitive election to prove himself before having the seat for life (the main election in a Hawaii Senate race is obviously the Democratic primary).

Schatz isn't any more entitled to the seat than Hanabusa is. If he wins, then good. He earned it. But stop acting like Hanabusa shouldn't even run.

^^ This. Why should Abercrombie get to decide who is Senator for life from Hawaii? If Inouye doesn't have the right to decide his successor, neither does Abercrombie have the right to appoint someone for life. Schatz should be challenged and the people of Hawaii should get a choice.

Yes, but Hanabusa's fans are acting like "Inouye's wishes is the only consideration for me". That's a sh**t argument. At least some of Schatz's fans have been more coherent about their arguments.

Really? I find their arguments to be the most incoherent. Just because someone got appointed Senator they shouldn't receive a primary challenge? No Senator should be immune from a challenge and most certainly not some Lieutenant Governor who got appointed by his Governor.

Nobody thinks Schatz shouldn't be challenged, most of us just think that Hanabusa's challenge doesn't make sense.

I think Hanabusa challenging him would make most sense considering her current position. Who else do you have in mind?

I honestly have no idea. I suppose Hanabusa would make sense, but the reasoning for her challenge (because you always have to have some variation of "the current guy/lady isn't doing good enough) doesn't. Maybe Tulsi Gabbard? Dunno.

Anyway, Daily Kos makes the case for why Hanabusa is not right for Hawaii (though they make the mistake of relying on a deceased politician's legacy that Hanabusa herself is doing), and I think they make a pretty good case.

[Miles]

Hanabusa was on POLITICO'S 50 Politicos to Watch list.


Also, guys, at this point, I think we might as well turn this into the offical Hawaii 2014 Senate race thread!

[windjammer]

Hanabusa was on POLITICO'S 50 Politicos to Watch list.


Also, guys, at this point, I think we might as well turn this into the offical Hawaii 2014 Senate race thread!

I agree! It will be an expensive primary.

[Morning in Atlas]

Al Gore has endorsed Schatz.

[Miles]

Peter Boylan, who was deputy chief of staff for Inouye, has joined Hanabusa's campaign.

In the open HI-01, State Senator Will Espero (D) becomes the first candidate to officially launch a bid:

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[windjammer]

Yes!!!!! We need a new woman in the us senate

[Zioneer]

I do like how Schatz is basically running as a cross between Al Gore and Bernie Sanders.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Yes!!!!! We need a new woman in the us senate

Not one like Hannabusa. There are far better female choices in the country. Michelle Nunn in Georgia, Alison Lundergan-Grimes in Kentucky, Denise Juneau in Montana. And they're just the Democrats running.

[RogueBeaver]

Hanabusa could be ensnared in campaign finance violations.

[Zioneer]

Hanabusa could be ensnared in campaign finance violations.

Ouch, Big Pharma? Glad that I'm supporting Schatz.

[Miles]

MoveOn is endorsing Schatz.

[Miles]

Inouye's widow is helping Hanabusa with fundraising.

[Miles]

We must have missed this, as its a few weeks old, but Akaka endorsed Hanabusa.

[tmthforu94]

We must have missed this, as its a few weeks old, but Akaka endorsed Hanabusa.

HanabUSA!

Love it - while I'd prefer having a Republican winning this race, Hanabusa is certainly my preferred choice of the two.

[Miles]

Hanabusa needs to pick up the fundraising pace:

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[publicunofficial]

It's been a few months, but Schatz and Hanabusa's camps have had their first back-and-forth.


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/328815-schatz-campaign-touts-his-position-in-memo

Schatz sent out a memo to his fundraisers, touting his endorsements, his fundraising edge over Hanabusa, and the fact that he is the more Progressive choice for Senator.


Hanabusa's spokesman rebutted with this:

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Sounds like loserspeak to me. A good sign that Hanabusa's campaign is failing and Schatz can remain Senator.

[Flake]

Gabbard should just run

[Lief 🗽]

lol Hanabusa is throwing progressives under the bus now? Gross.

[Morning in Atlas]

Gabbard should just run

No. Schatz is a great Senator and I'm looking forward to his service.

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Hanabusa is a pawn of the defense contractors. This primary is a no-brainer.