Glenn Beck Says He Has Proof There Is Government Coverup On Boston Bombing

[patrick1]

Facts are now "narratives", I guess. Unfortunately it seems that despite evidence to the contrary many people continue to think what they want to on nearly every single issue.

[The Mikado]

why are people so sensitive to suggestions of a conspiracy/coverup?  it isn't tantamount to claiming nobody legitimately suffered as a result.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/338/transcript

Read the transcript of Act 1 for an account of how a conspiracy theory actually ended up seriously complicating the life of a survivor of the 7/7 subway bombing in London after conspiracy theorists started accusing her of being a liar who was never on the train.

[Badger]

I've never said a word about the merits of the official narrative, nor any of the alternative narratives.  I have only commented on the touching-a-nerve reaction that the development of alternative narratives draws out of people.

The fact you define such conspiracies as 'alternative narratives' instead of, rightly, 'crazy-ass sh#t from internet trolls' speaks volumes.

[DrScholl]

nobody exploits the event with greater potency than those who develop the official narrative.

It isn't fiction, it's real life, there is no narrative. So far, we have no clue as to motive or reasoning and nothing is official yet.

And if there was a grand conspiracy, wouldn't the grand conspirators be a lot more, I don't know, secretive? If there conspirators are as devious and powerful as the conspiracy theorists claim, there wouldn't be any "clues" left behind for amateurs to discover.

[BluegrassBlueVote]

why are people so sensitive to suggestions of a conspiracy/coverup?  it isn't tantamount to claiming nobody legitimately suffered as a result.

Seriously?

[© tweed]

I've never said a word about the merits of the official narrative, nor any of the alternative narratives.  I have only commented on the touching-a-nerve reaction that the development of alternative narratives draws out of people.

The fact you define such conspiracies as 'alternative narratives' instead of, rightly, 'crazy-ass sh#t from internet trolls' speaks volumes.

'conspiracy' is the loaded language, 'alternative narrative' is the neutral language, only appears otherwise due to the dominance of the loaded language.

[© tweed]

nobody exploits the event with greater potency than those who develop the official narrative.

It isn't fiction, it's real life, there is no narrative. So far, we have no clue as to motive or reasoning and nothing is official yet.

nothing is more official and final than bodily injury.  no Senate commission is more final than death, mobilization, shutdown, and Friday's lost wages.

as a comment on this fiction/real life dichotomy, the fact that we have 98% of us only experienced this event through smartphone and computer and tv screens, renders that dichotomy an anarchronism, a relic of past time.  everything now is a mix of the fake and the real.

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again, I have never tried to comment on any of these issues.  bark up another tree, if you wish.

[© tweed]

why are people so sensitive to suggestions of a conspiracy/coverup?  it isn't tantamount to claiming nobody legitimately suffered as a result.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/338/transcript

Read the transcript of Act 1 for an account of how a conspiracy theory actually ended up seriously complicating the life of a survivor of the 7/7 subway bombing in London after conspiracy theorists started accusing her of being a liar who was never on the train.

well, alright, at least you're trying, but even assuming that this here proves everything you want it to prove and nothing you don't, it's but one data point, and I hope we can agree that official narratives have 'unjustly complicated' the lives of innocents on plenty of occasions, even if just by accident, makes no difference.


and, also, few people have heard of this, so it doesn't answer my question "why are people so sensitive...?"  99.99% are not so sensitive precisely because of this London woman.

[patrick1]

why are people so sensitive to suggestions of a conspiracy/coverup?  it isn't tantamount to claiming nobody legitimately suffered as a result.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/338/transcript

Read the transcript of Act 1 for an account of how a conspiracy theory actually ended up seriously complicating the life of a survivor of the 7/7 subway bombing in London after conspiracy theorists started accusing her of being a liar who was never on the train.

well, alright, at least you're trying, but even assuming that this here proves everything you want it to prove and nothing you don't, it's but one data point, and I hope we can agree that official narratives have 'unjustly complicated' the lives of innocents on plenty of occasions, even if just by accident, makes no difference.


and, also, few people have heard of this, so it doesn't answer my question "why are people so sensitive...?"  99.99% are not so sensitive precisely because of this London woman.

Half baked conspiracies distract from the real issues and problems our nation and society face. So on both, rather large margins, you get things like 9/11 truthers or alternatively the simplistic line that "they" hate us for our freedoms. 

In Boston the paranoids are already going off about Craft International and private security on site- ah no $hit. There are demonstrable reasons for them to be there. You stir up that pot and instead of looking at the threats posed and perhaps making it harder for people like the bombers having access to assault rifles; You instead get people blaming some shadow conspiracy. These people then stand in the way of any reform that would actually save lives in day to day America.

[King]

I wish more people believed in this truth.  Then, I could start robbing banks and doing whatever I want and be let go while the American people go search for who in the higher ups is really behind it.

[DrScholl]

nothing is more official and final than bodily injury.  no Senate commission is more final than death, mobilization, shutdown, and Friday's lost wages.

as a comment on this fiction/real life dichotomy, the fact that we have 98% of us only experienced this event through smartphone and computer and tv screens, renders that dichotomy an anarchronism, a relic of past time.  everything now is a mix of the fake and the real.

again, I have never tried to comment on any of these issues.  bark up another tree, if you wish.

It is true that experiencing something in person rather than seeing it on television or the computer is more jarring, but that doesn't mean that anything that happened was fake.

I'm really not trying to argue, I'm just making a general point about how ridiculous conspiracy theories are and why many people take issue with them.

[Bacon King]

GLENN BECK HAS RELEASED THE TRUTH: he went whole hog with the "Saudi guy" conspiracy!

• Beck claims everything has been verified by his staff, and there's more stuff that hasn't been released yet because the proof hasn't been ascertained
• NCTC made an "event file" on the Arab national and was at "3B" level which apparently means he is a confirmed terrorist; 3B status needs "solid evidence" and requires consensus of all agencies involved with terrorist-fighting.
• John Kerry had suspicious meeting with Saudi Foreign Minister behind closed doors Tuesday, the next day Obama had "chance encounter" with Saudi Foreign Minister and Ambassador; then 3B charge was mysteriously dropped and deportation rescinded-- this can only be done by two people, NCTC chairman with all agencies signing off to it by using a complicated bureaucracy, or Secretary of State can sign off on changes immediately
• Saudi National was granted a student visa even though he was ineligible because he's on a terrorism watch-list; his student vis requires him to go to school in Finley, Ohio but he's been violating the visa and living in Boston
• DHS and ICE = claims that there are two Saudi nationals (without offering evidence?) who have the same full name and that's the reason for the discrepancy
• American Freedom Fighter Congressman Duncan retains an original copy of the the documentation before "3B Status" was changed, along with members of the House Homeland Security Committee (Reps King, McCaul, and Miller). They've sent request for a classified briefing on the Saudi National. and will "hold the government accountable".
  
• Beck predicts case will be transferred from DHS to DOJ to keep people from figuring things out, and predicts a few other tactics, America freedom socialism Benghazi truth etc okay he's moving on I'm not listening anymore thank christ

[King]

Yeah, nothing will come of this.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Beck went crazy years ago.  This is no surprise.

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

Yeah, nothing will come of this.

Nothing legitimate, no. But the right will cling to this just as they cling to anything else that would make Obama look like a bad guy.

[Bacon King]

Yeah, nothing will come of this.

Nothing legitimate, no. But the right will cling to this just as they cling to anything else that would make Obama look like a bad guy.

I am concerned that, given that four conservative congressmen are already questioning the administration, that this could quickly build up into being the next "Benghazi" or possibly even something on the scale of the Birther movement.

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

Yeah, nothing will come of this.

Nothing legitimate, no. But the right will cling to this just as they cling to anything else that would make Obama look like a bad guy.

I am concerned that, given that four conservative congressmen are already questioning the administration, that this could quickly build up into being the next "Benghazi" or possibly even something on the scale of the Birther movement.

Eugh.

[King]

Yeah, nothing will come of this.

Nothing legitimate, no. But the right will cling to this just as they cling to anything else that would make Obama look like a bad guy.

I am concerned that, given that four conservative congressmen are already questioning the administration, that this could quickly build up into being the next "Benghazi" or possibly even something on the scale of the Birther movement.

I don't see why you wouldn't want that.  It would totally backfire.  The only ones who would believe them are insane enough already. 

The Clinton impeachment show trial blew up in the far-right's face 15 years ago, and America was a lot more conservative back then.  The right doing the same to Obama by tossing a bunch of ridiculous conspiracy theories around will only prove them unfit to govern.

[badgate]

Yeah, nothing will come of this.

Nothing legitimate, no. But the right will cling to this just as they cling to anything else that would make Obama look like a bad guy.

I am concerned that, given that four conservative congressmen are already questioning the administration, that this could quickly build up into being the next "Benghazi" or possibly even something on the scale of the Birther movement.

That would be too much to hope for.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

why are people so sensitive to suggestions of a conspiracy/coverup?  it isn't tantamount to claiming nobody legitimately suffered as a result.

Have you heard about the guy who's received harassment and death threats from Sandy Hook truthers for sheltering some kids at his home who fled the school?

[© tweed]

why are people so sensitive to suggestions of a conspiracy/coverup?  it isn't tantamount to claiming nobody legitimately suffered as a result.

Have you heard about the guy who's received harassment and death threats from Sandy Hook truthers for sheltering some kids at his home who fled the school?

how many American Muslims have suffered due to the official 9/11 narrative?  at the hands of the organs of state power, no less.  put it all on a scale and the dabblers who upload YouTube videos are of no consequence.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

why are people so sensitive to suggestions of a conspiracy/coverup?  it isn't tantamount to claiming nobody legitimately suffered as a result.

Have you heard about the guy who's received harassment and death threats from Sandy Hook truthers for sheltering some kids at his home who fled the school?

how many American Muslims have suffered due to the official 9/11 narrative?  at the hands of the organs of state power, no less.  put it all on a scale and the dabblers who upload YouTube videos are of no consequence.

So you're saying the truth is bad because some people got unjustly hurt because of it? Should we have lied to the American people, or to any people for that matter?

[Mr. Morden]

The bombers' mother also thinks there was a coverup.  In fact, she doesn't think anyone really died.  It was all staged with paint!:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/25/us/boston-attack/?sr=google_news&google_editors_picks=true

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Then she immediately turns around and suggests that maybe people really did get hurt after all, when speaking of the victims:

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