Four Bay Area counties swung toward Obama

[All Along The Watchtower]

San Francisco, Alameda, Santa Clara, and Solano.

2008
San Francisco: Obama win, 83.96%-13.62%
Alameda: Obama win, 78.52%-19.19%
Santa Clara: Obama win, 69.45%-28.55%
Solano: Obama win, 63.18%-34.68%

2012
San Francisco: Obama win, 83.40%-13.01%
Alameda: Obama win, 78.69%-18.12%
Santa Clara: Obama win, 70.10%-27.19%
Solano: Obama win, 63.32%-34.08%

Long live the Bay Area!

[Siloch]

Yeah, the Bay Area is so awesome that Americans are leaving it in droves.

https://www.baycitizen.org/news/census-2010/bay-area-residents-leaving-droves/

Liberals priced out of their paradise, now onto Colorado to make all the same mistakes all over again.

[old timey villain]

Yeah, the Bay Area is so awesome that Americans are leaving it in droves.

https://www.baycitizen.org/news/census-2010/bay-area-residents-leaving-droves/

Liberals priced out of their paradise, now onto Colorado to make all the same mistakes all over again.

The bay area is doing fine. It was never meant to accommodate an ever growing number of people because housing space is boxed in by geography. Areas like NYC, South Florida and LA have the same problem (LA specifically is boxed in on two sides by the mountains and the ocean.) And if anything, people aren't being pushed out by liberal economic policies but by the free market instead. The bay area is one of the most desirable areas of the country in which to live so housing and rent prices are pushed sky high because of simple supply and demand. The average home price in Marin county alone is 650k.

The bay area obviously isn't some kind of socialist paradise, or else we wouldn't see these kinds of prices. The liberal imprint on the region comes in the form of diversity, advanced LGBT rights, a thriving high tech sector as well as a favorable startup climate and some of the best schools in the country, which is why so many people want to live there.

[old timey villain]

By the way, businesses aren't lured by tax incentives alone. If that were the case then every major company in America would be moving to states like Alabama- they offer corporations a hell of a tax package to relocate there but they don't get too many nibbles. Businesses also care about good schools, transportation infrastructure and a general high quality of life. That's why so many of the big tech companies have stayed in the Bay area despite higher taxes.

Alabama gets a few manufacturers who only care about right to work laws, while Intel, Google, HP and Apple care more about ensuring their employees have an overall good quality of life, which the bay area offers.

[memphis]

Even more than that, businesses care about prestige. Above all, they're constantly trying to sell their brand. And states like Mississippi have zero prestige to offer. Quite the opposite, they carry a burdensome stigma. Fair or not, nobody is going to take a company from Mississippi seriously. It's just a pet peeve of mine when people act like business decisions or marketplace behavior are rational things. In theory, nobody would be doing business in the Bay Area or New York. Everything is crazy expensive. Real estate. Salaries. Taxes. But they are the nation's commercial zeniths. Go figure.

[old timey villain]

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Yeah, the Bay Area is so awesome that Americans are leaving it in droves.

https://www.baycitizen.org/news/census-2010/bay-area-residents-leaving-droves/

Liberals priced out of their paradise, now onto Colorado to make all the same mistakes all over again.

LOL, look at the fastest growing counties in California *this* decade.

http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=bkmk

We have


3. Santa Clara- most populous bay area county)
4. Alameda - 2nd most populous bay area county
5. San Benito - near bay area
6. Contra Costa - 3rd most populous bay area county
7. San Mateo - 5th most populous bay area county
8. Monterey - near bay area
11. San Francisco - 4th most populous bay area county

[Siloch]

[Siloch]

Alabama gets a few manufacturers who only care about right to work laws, while Intel, Google, HP and Apple care more about ensuring their employees have an overall good quality of life, which the bay area offers.

Yes that is why they would rather pay cheaper new immigrants, than Americans, because they have their quality of life in mind. You liberals really do live in la la land. Let me guess you think everyone in southern California lives like Lauren Conrad.

[Sbane]

Yeah, the Bay Area is so awesome that Americans are leaving it in droves.

https://www.baycitizen.org/news/census-2010/bay-area-residents-leaving-droves/

Liberals priced out of their paradise, now onto Colorado to make all the same mistakes all over again.

The Bay Area is the fastest growing region in California right now, and California is growing faster than the country. As for cheap immigrants, the median income in Santa Clara county is 90k and around the same in San Mateo County. San Francisco has one of the highest per capita incomes out there (not a lot of families). The poorest county in the Bay Area, Alameda County, which includes the city of Oakland, has a median income of 70k, about 20k more than the country. A lot of "cheap immigrants" make 6 figures in the Bay Area. I know that personally.

And isn't the cost of living pretty high in Britain? America is a very lucky country. They have a cost of living much lower than most developed countries. Alas, some of the more sought out places in the country have a cost of living equivalent to other developed countries.

[old timey villain]

Alabama gets a few manufacturers who only care about right to work laws, while Intel, Google, HP and Apple care more about ensuring their employees have an overall good quality of life, which the bay area offers.

Yes that is why they would rather pay cheaper new immigrants, than Americans, because they have their quality of life in mind. You liberals really do live in la la land. Let me guess you think everyone in southern California lives like Lauren Conrad.

The Bay Area is in Northern California. And did the UK just get 'The Hills' five years late? You could have at least mentioned the Kardashians if you wanted a savvy pop culture reference to drive home your point...

But back to your argument. So you admit that most corporations are evil monstrosities that don't give a damn about their employees' quality of life, which the liberals in la la land have been saying for years?? Good to know.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The Bay Area rocks!

[minionofmidas]

It's the Asian parts of Alameda, Sta Clara, San Francisco that are responsible for these swings. No idea about Solano.

[traininthedistance]

Yeah, the Bay Area is so awesome that Americans are leaving it in droves.

https://www.baycitizen.org/news/census-2010/bay-area-residents-leaving-droves/

Liberals priced out of their paradise, now onto Colorado to make all the same mistakes all over again.

The bay area is doing fine. It was never meant to accommodate an ever growing number of people because housing space is boxed in by geography. Areas like NYC, South Florida and LA have the same problem (LA specifically is boxed in on two sides by the mountains and the ocean.) And if anything, people aren't being pushed out by liberal economic policies but by the free market instead. The bay area is one of the most desirable areas of the country in which to live so housing and rent prices are pushed sky high because of simple supply and demand. The average home price in Marin county alone is 650k.

The bay area obviously isn't some kind of socialist paradise, or else we wouldn't see these kinds of prices. The liberal imprint on the region comes in the form of diversity, advanced LGBT rights, a thriving high tech sector as well as a favorable startup climate and some of the best schools in the country, which is why so many people want to live there.

This is why the Bay Area needs to make more goddamn supply and build taller.  It's really a great place, but it would be better if more people could live there.

[Sbane]

Although there isn't a big move towards growing taller, there is a lot of growth in condos and the like in downtown areas of Bay Area cities.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Impressive, especially considering there is so little room to move.  Amazing how the urban/rural divide just keeps growing... and consistently so, everywhere. 

[Siloch]

The Bay Area is in Northern California. And did the UK just get 'The Hills' five years late? You could have at least mentioned the Kardashians if you wanted a savvy pop culture reference to drive home your point...

But back to your argument. So you admit that most corporations are evil monstrosities that don't give a damn about their employees' quality of life, which the liberals in la la land have been saying for years?? Good to know.

If liberals think that most coporations are evil monstrosities why is President Obama lowering the corporate tax rate. Then there is all that evil corporation money Obama took in the form of campaign donations, yet liberals voted for him in droves.

What does that say about liberals..... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[minionofmidas]

That the Left does not actually have a party of their own, and will not while the current American political system stands.

[CountryClassSF]

San Francisco, Alameda, Santa Clara, and Solano.

2008
San Francisco: Obama win, 83.96%-13.62%
Alameda: Obama win, 78.52%-19.19%
Santa Clara: Obama win, 69.45%-28.55%
Solano: Obama win, 63.18%-34.68%

2012
San Francisco: Obama win, 83.40%-13.01%
Alameda: Obama win, 78.69%-18.12%
Santa Clara: Obama win, 70.10%-27.19%
Solano: Obama win, 63.32%-34.08%

Long live the Bay Area!

Oh yeah, gotta love having to pay thousands of dollars a month just to rent a place here. Got to love the smell of and filthy streets and bums everywhere and loud people. Yeah, San Francisco is great.

My guess is that many conservative people are leaving both the Bay Area and California in droves. The only people left here are those who are forced to stay for work or family obligations, or the lefties that love the free handouts and hippies that still haven't figured out that it's not 1969 anymore.

Although there isn't a big move towards growing taller, there is a lot of growth in condos and the like in downtown areas of Bay Area cities.

This is true. Just going down Market Street you'll see a crane every two blocks. Problem is, the NIMBY mentality around here prevents any upward growth.  San Francisco itself needs more high rises, you know, like a REAL city, but every time someone attempts to build a development that's not a public housing project, the usual suspects always complain and complain and complain.

We actually have a ballot initiative in November on whether to "approve" a luxury development by the Embarcadero. With limited land, you have to build up if you want to grow.

The quaint victorian homes are great, but there comes a point where modernization and improvizing has to occur.  Population IS Growing here, mainly because of the tech industry--but regulations and political correctness continues to hamper growth.

[danny]

Oh yeah, gotta love having to pay thousands of dollars a month just to rent a place here. Got to love the smell of and filthy streets and bums everywhere and loud people. Yeah, San Francisco is great.

Clearly a lot of people want to live in San Francisco, otherwise it wouldn't cost so much.

[memphis]

Yeah, the Bay Area is so awesome that Americans are leaving it in droves.

https://www.baycitizen.org/news/census-2010/bay-area-residents-leaving-droves/

Liberals priced out of their paradise, now onto Colorado to make all the same mistakes all over again.

The bay area is doing fine. It was never meant to accommodate an ever growing number of people because housing space is boxed in by geography. Areas like NYC, South Florida and LA have the same problem (LA specifically is boxed in on two sides by the mountains and the ocean.) And if anything, people aren't being pushed out by liberal economic policies but by the free market instead. The bay area is one of the most desirable areas of the country in which to live so housing and rent prices are pushed sky high because of simple supply and demand. The average home price in Marin county alone is 650k.

The bay area obviously isn't some kind of socialist paradise, or else we wouldn't see these kinds of prices. The liberal imprint on the region comes in the form of diversity, advanced LGBT rights, a thriving high tech sector as well as a favorable startup climate and some of the best schools in the country, which is why so many people want to live there.

This is why the Bay Area needs to make more goddamn supply and build taller.  It's really a great place, but it would be better if more people could live there.

If you just spent $800,000 on a modest house, pretty sure you wouldn't be eager to see prices drop.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Yeah, the Bay Area is so awesome that Americans are leaving it in droves.

https://www.baycitizen.org/news/census-2010/bay-area-residents-leaving-droves/

Liberals priced out of their paradise, now onto Colorado to make all the same mistakes all over again.

The bay area is doing fine. It was never meant to accommodate an ever growing number of people because housing space is boxed in by geography. Areas like NYC, South Florida and LA have the same problem (LA specifically is boxed in on two sides by the mountains and the ocean.) And if anything, people aren't being pushed out by liberal economic policies but by the free market instead. The bay area is one of the most desirable areas of the country in which to live so housing and rent prices are pushed sky high because of simple supply and demand. The average home price in Marin county alone is 650k.

The bay area obviously isn't some kind of socialist paradise, or else we wouldn't see these kinds of prices. The liberal imprint on the region comes in the form of diversity, advanced LGBT rights, a thriving high tech sector as well as a favorable startup climate and some of the best schools in the country, which is why so many people want to live there.

This is why the Bay Area needs to make more goddamn supply and build taller.  It's really a great place, but it would be better if more people could live there.

Exactly. Lots of people want to live there, and they would if they could afford to. Exclusionary zoning practices are the only thing keeping them out.

Not true.