SENATE BILL: Stimulating Efficient Automotive Sales Act (Passed)
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« Reply #75 on: April 30, 2013, 08:13:42 PM »
Nay. Moving someone from a gas guzzler to a hybrid is even better than moving them to a Honda accord.
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« Reply #76 on: April 30, 2013, 09:15:28 PM »
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« Reply #77 on: May 01, 2013, 07:25:12 AM »
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« Reply #78 on: May 01, 2013, 08:50:09 AM »
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« Reply #79 on: May 01, 2013, 04:05:48 PM »
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« Reply #80 on: May 03, 2013, 11:43:49 AM »
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« Reply #81 on: May 03, 2013, 05:20:51 PM »
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« Reply #82 on: May 04, 2013, 05:08:29 AM »
I don't think the other bill covers hybrid cars.

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« Reply #83 on: May 04, 2013, 11:32:41 AM »
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« Reply #84 on: May 04, 2013, 11:45:57 AM »
Quote from: Ѕenator Αverroës on May 04, 2013, 11:26:56 AM
Quote from: Senator MaxQue on May 04, 2013, 05:08:29 AM
I don't think the other bill covers hybrid cars.

It doesn't? How can that be the case?

I was rather confused. I thought we were voting on the repeal of FL. 11-4.
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« Reply #85 on: May 04, 2013, 01:42:35 PM »
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« Reply #86 on: May 04, 2013, 02:11:03 PM »
Quote from: Ѕenator Αverroës on May 04, 2013, 11:48:52 AM
Quote from: Senator MaxQue on May 04, 2013, 11:45:57 AM
Quote from: Ѕenator Αverroës on May 04, 2013, 11:26:56 AM
Quote from: Senator MaxQue on May 04, 2013, 05:08:29 AM
I don't think the other bill covers hybrid cars.

It doesn't? How can that be the case?

I was rather confused. I thought we were voting on the repeal of FL. 11-4.

Oh no, we're only voting on my proposal that we prevent "double dipping" by allowing automobile owners to claim only one subsidy or the other.

Well, so, it offers to the buyer to choose between 3000$ or 1500$ + 750$/year?
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« Reply #87 on: May 04, 2013, 06:11:15 PM »
Switching to Aye.
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« Reply #88 on: May 05, 2013, 04:34:37 PM »
Aye (6): Αverroës Nix, Ben, HagridoftheDeep, jdb, MaxQue and NC Yankee
Nay (4): Kalwejt, Napoleon, sbane and Snowstalker
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (0):

Duke you can declare this passed as time expired at 3:08 PM.
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« Reply #89 on: May 07, 2013, 09:54:31 AM »
Oops. Missed this one.

This amendment is adopted. Debate resumes.
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« Reply #90 on: May 07, 2013, 04:57:43 PM »
IT isn't the only one either. Tongue
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« Reply #91 on: May 09, 2013, 06:04:25 PM »
Is this done at this point?
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« Reply #92 on: May 09, 2013, 06:18:58 PM »
It is time for a final vote!

Senators, please vote aye, nay or abstain on this bill
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« Reply #93 on: May 09, 2013, 07:19:55 PM »
Duke can you or Nappy compose a final text here?
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« Reply #94 on: May 10, 2013, 12:20:14 PM »
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« Reply #95 on: May 10, 2013, 02:24:50 PM »
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« Reply #96 on: May 10, 2013, 02:42:19 PM »
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« Reply #97 on: May 10, 2013, 04:59:19 PM »
Nix? Anybody?
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« Reply #98 on: May 10, 2013, 08:14:40 PM »
Nay

Just doing some rough math in my head, I'm seeing that this program could cost a lot of money, and I don't think there's enough pay-off for it to be worth it. Despite the president's veto, the mood in Atlasia is obviously one in favour of modest tax cuts. If that's going to be the case, we just can't be spending all this money. Sorry.
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« Reply #99 on: May 10, 2013, 08:31:29 PM »
Quote from: HagridOfTheDeep on May 10, 2013, 08:14:40 PM
Nay

Just doing some rough math in my head, I'm seeing that this program could cost a lot of money, and I don't think there's enough pay-off for it to be worth it. Despite the president's veto, the mood in Atlasia is obviously one in favour of modest tax cuts. If that's going to be the case, we just can't be spending all this money. Sorry.

It would be a few billion at most. It's modeled directly after a program passed in the real-life stimulus back in 2009, one of the most successful programs in the stimulus. It only cost about 2.8 billion, and that program was much more expansive than this one is. If you're voting against it because of costs, you're being disingenuous. We've allotted a max of 2 billion, and the economic benefits far outweigh that piddly number.

As for tax cuts, if you're bringing that argument into this, you're just being petty. I never said I was against modest tax cuts, but that tax bill wasn't satisfactory. And you abstained on it so why are you getting all uppity about taxes anyway. Write a more comprehensive bill, with more careful tax cuts, and the implementation of a rainy day fund, and I'll sign it.

But that's neither here nor there. This program will cost 2 billion dollars, and the economic benefits will be a lot more immediate and impactful than a billions-dollar permanent tax cut would've been.

Nice seeing you show up to the Senate, though.
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