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« Reply #75 on: April 08, 2013, 11:22:13 PM »

Sorry, I ment Snowe. They're mentioned together so often I got them mixed up.

Snowe isn't in the Senate anymore.  Her term finished a few months ago.


Sorry, It's just with the ".....and now" titles got me confused as to thinking everyone was an incumbent Senator.
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« Reply #76 on: April 09, 2013, 10:17:26 AM »

A large fraction of the SSM opponents in Congress support civil unions, and have done so for years.  You're welcome to start a brand new map about that, but integrating it into the existing map doesn't make much sense.


Civil unions are a compromise.

Yes, a 3/5ths compromise.

...but the masters were voting, so to speak, on behalf of the slaves without asking the slaves wanted (which of course would have been freedom).
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« Reply #77 on: June 22, 2013, 12:54:19 AM »
« Edited: June 25, 2013, 03:38:25 AM by pbrower2a »

Updated:

(Lautenberg deceased, Murkowski has switched)

Democrats:
49 48 Supporters
6 Opponents (Donnelly, Manchin, Heitkamp, Johnson, Nelson, Pryor)
3 Ambiguous (Casey, Hagan, Landrieu)

Republicans:
2 3 Supporters (Portman, Kirk, Murkowski)
41 40 Opponents
2 Ambiguous (Collins, the new R Senator in New Jersey -- but the Governor is not a homophobe and the appointee will be up for re-election in November 2013)

Notes:
  • I counted Carper, Kaine, and Rockefeller as supporters; they haven't explicitly endorsed gay marriage, but have made statements that make their beliefs somewhat obvious (and all three signed onto an amicus brief arguing that DADT be overturned in full)
  • Hagan and Tester both sound like they'd be obvious supporters of gay marriage if they didn't have reelection concerns
  • Landrieu  is evolving!
  • Casey looks to be in the middle of an "evolution" on the issue and is clearly hoping the Supreme Court solves everything so he won't have to make any difficult votes
  • Donnelly sounds like he's beginning an "evolution" of his own
  • Heitkamp would probably support gay marriage if she was from a liberal state; the other five Democratic opponents appear to genuinely oppose it on principle

Also here's a map!



30% shade means one Senator from the state has an ambiguous position. Gray states have one Senator in support and one opposed.


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« Reply #78 on: June 24, 2013, 04:26:15 PM »

Republicans:
2 3 Supporters (Portman, Kirk, Murkowski)
41 40 Opponents
2 Ambiguous (Collins, the new R Senator in New Jersey -- but the Governor is not a homophobe and the appointee will be up for re-election in November 2013)

Jeff Chiesa is a place-holder and the state GOP has already ceded the 2013 special election.
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« Reply #79 on: June 24, 2013, 09:58:19 PM »

Republicans:
2 3 Supporters (Portman, Kirk, Murkowski)
41 40 Opponents
2 Ambiguous (Collins, the new R Senator in New Jersey -- but the Governor is not a homophobe and the appointee will be up for re-election in November 2013)

Jeff Chiesa is a place-holder and the state GOP has already ceded the 2013 special election.

Well, it is much easier to get the Democrat type of Republican than an honest Republican elected in NJ.
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« Reply #80 on: June 24, 2013, 10:05:19 PM »

Donnelly evolved back in April.
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« Reply #81 on: June 24, 2013, 10:09:14 PM »

The only Democratic senators who have not publicly voiced their support (or, have said they support it but would not vote in favour of it) are Pryor, Landrieu and Manchin.
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« Reply #82 on: June 24, 2013, 10:14:48 PM »

The only Democratic senators who have not publicly voiced their support (or, have said they support it but would not vote in favour of it) are Pryor, Landrieu and Manchin.

Yep.

Landrieu said she is personally in favor, but that she wouldn't vote in favor
Pryor has best tried to avoid the issue
Manchin just hates the gays
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« Reply #83 on: June 25, 2013, 12:57:07 AM »


I'm pretty sure he and Heitkamp announced on the same day.
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« Reply #84 on: June 25, 2013, 01:28:02 AM »

Donnelly, Heitkamp and Johnson have announced their support for gay marriage in April.

Landrieu probably supports it, but won't officially endorse it until she has won re-election next year, because her state hates the gays and if she supports it now it could lead to her defeat or make it much more likely.

The only 2 hard-core-against-Democrats are Pryor and Manchin.
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