EP elections 2014

[Zanas]

Well... that's... disturbing.

Oh and anyone who is against abortion and in favor of capital punishment is outright deprived of any credibility whatsoever.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Oh and anyone who is against abortion and in favor of capital punishment is outright deprived of any credibility whatsoever.

Oh?  What crime did a fetus ever commit?

[Keystone Phil]

Well... that's... disturbing.

Oh and anyone who is against abortion and in favor of capital punishment is outright deprived of any credibility whatsoever.

There's the dose of stupidity I needed today.

[Franzl]

Well... that's... disturbing.

Oh and anyone who is against abortion and in favor of capital punishment is outright deprived of any credibility whatsoever.

There's the dose of stupidity I needed today.

That position can be justified, but those who go on about the sanctity of life when speaking of abortion but believe executing people is ok....are hypocrites.

[afleitch]

Survation (another out of the ass poll) for Britain

UKIP 31%
LAB 28%
CON 24%
LIB 7%

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I understand that that is literally how they produce their numbers.

[Keystone Phil]

Well... that's... disturbing.

Oh and anyone who is against abortion and in favor of capital punishment is outright deprived of any credibility whatsoever.

There's the dose of stupidity I needed today.

That position can be justified, but those who go on about the sanctity of life when speaking of abortion but believe executing people is ok....are hypocrites.

Ok so as long as we don't talk about it being the "sanctity," we're justified in saying it's more of a priority for us to protect innocent, defenseless life, right?

And before this turns into a flame war, let's note who started by questioning the credibility of those opposed to abortion/in favor of the death penalty.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Change the record comrades, or the player will be abruptly smashed.

[Franzl]

Well... that's... disturbing.

Oh and anyone who is against abortion and in favor of capital punishment is outright deprived of any credibility whatsoever.

There's the dose of stupidity I needed today.

That position can be justified, but those who go on about the sanctity of life when speaking of abortion but believe executing people is ok....are hypocrites.

Ok so as long as we don't talk about it being the "sanctity," we're justified in saying it's more of a priority for us to protect innocent, defenseless life, right?

And before this turns into a flame war, let's note who started by questioning the credibility of those opposed to abortion/in favor of the death penalty.

You're kind of moving the goalposts here. It's not about priorities. Of course you can reasonably say that.

That's not at all equivalent to supporting the death penalty.

[Tender Branson]

From the ÖGfE poll:

"Which of these people would you vote for as Commission President ?"

18% Juncker
14% Schulz
22% None of these people
31% I don't know those names
15% Undecided/No opinion

[Keystone Phil]

Well... that's... disturbing.

Oh and anyone who is against abortion and in favor of capital punishment is outright deprived of any credibility whatsoever.

There's the dose of stupidity I needed today.

That position can be justified, but those who go on about the sanctity of life when speaking of abortion but believe executing people is ok....are hypocrites.

Ok so as long as we don't talk about it being the "sanctity," we're justified in saying it's more of a priority for us to protect innocent, defenseless life, right?

And before this turns into a flame war, let's note who started by questioning the credibility of those opposed to abortion/in favor of the death penalty.

You're kind of moving the goalposts here. It's not about priorities. Of course you can reasonably say that.

That's not at all equivalent to supporting the death penalty.

I'm going to respect the moderator's wishes (the post clearly immediately above yours) and not engage beyond this point.

[doktorb]

*wanders into thread*

*speed reads*

*wanders out again*

[Middle-aged Europe]

*wanders into thread*

*speed reads*

*wanders out again*

Thank you for stopping by.

[Tender Branson]

Found the first 2009 ORF projection for Austria on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUjLh2I2Io8

The first "exit poll" (actually it's not an exit poll, because it is based on already-counted precincts) was very good and almost identical to the final results.

Only the FPÖ-share was a bit too high, mostly because the FPÖ always loses big when the postal votes are counted the Monday after the election.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Please behave. Final warning to all concerned.

[You kip if you want to...]

Anti-immigrant UKIP hiring immigrants, not British people, to deliver their leaflets.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/07/ukip-eastern-european-leaflet-distribution-_n_5279567.html?1399473398&utm_hp_ref=uk

[Tender Branson]

McPomm (= German state) EU poll by Infratest dimap for NDR:

[Tender Branson]

3rd Green poster campaign:



"People are more important than lobbies. For clean and transparent politics." (picture features MEP Ernst Strasser from the ÖVP, recently sentenced to a prison term for lobbying and corruption)



"Monsanto, get off the field. For biological agriculture and clean energy."

(literally means though: "Monsanto, get the f**k out of the EU !")

[Tender Branson]

New Austria poll (Meinungsraum for NEWS magazine, sample=800):

24.0% ÖVP
23.0% SPÖ
21.0% FPÖ
14.0% NEOS
12.0% Greens
  1.5% EA
  1.5% BZÖ
  1.5% REKOS
  1.5% EU-STOP

http://neuwal.com/wahlumfragen/stream-eu14.php?cid=44

[Tender Branson]

So, tonight at 8:15pm on ORF1 (TV channel) the Eurovision Song Contest will be shown live - where a polarizing Austrian transvestite is singing for her entry into the Finals on Saturday.

On ORF2, a EP-debate in Berlin between Schulz and Juncker will be shown live - hosted jointly by the German ZDF TV and the Austrian ORF TV.

...

I wonder which "show" gets more viewers ...

[Middle-aged Europe]

And I'm gonna be in front of the ZDF studio in Berlin as part of a Green party protest against the exclusion of the "smaller" parties from the debate.

Not gonna watch the debate myself, because it's probably gonna be boring.

[Tender Branson]

And I'm gonna be in front of the ZDF studio in Berlin as part of a Green party protest against the exclusion of the "smaller" parties from the debate.

Not gonna watch the debate myself, because it's probably gonna be boring.

I'll probably watch some of the debate, then switch over to the Song Contest - to see how many points our Conchita gets from the homophobic Eastern European countries ...

[Velasco]

CIS poll for the EP elections in Spain with some surprises:

[Tender Branson]

ÖVP/EPP ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PzHIwy-VO8

Not bad, music is horrible though (at least from minute 1 onwards) ...

[Tender Branson]

Live streams of the debate between Schulz and Juncker (starts in ca. 1 hour and 20 minutes):

ORF

ZDF