For Christians: Which of Spong's "Twelve points" do you agree with?
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  For Christians: Which of Spong's "Twelve points" do you agree with?
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#1
Theism, as a way of defining God, is dead. So most theological God-talk is today meaningless. A new way to speak of God must be found.
 
#2
Since God can no longer be conceived in theistic terms, it becomes nonsensical to seek to understand Jesus as the incarnation of the theistic deity. So the Christology of the ages is bankrupt.
 
#3
The Biblical story of the perfect and finished creation from which human beings fell into sin is pre-Darwinian mythology and post-Darwinian nonsense.
 
#4
The virgin birth, understood as literal biology, makes Christ's divinity, as traditionally understood, impossible.
 
#5
The miracle stories of the New Testament can no longer be interpreted in a post-Newtonian world as supernatural events performed by an incarnate deity.
 
#6
The view of the cross as the sacrifice for the sins of the world is a barbarian idea based on primitive concepts of God and must be dismissed.
 
#7
Resurrection is an action of God. Jesus was raised into the meaning of God. It therefore cannot be a physical resuscitation occurring inside human history.
 
#8
The story of the Ascension assumed a three-tiered universe and is therefore not capable of being translated into the concepts of a post-Copernican space age.
 
#9
There is no external, objective, revealed standard written in scripture or on tablets of stone that will govern our ethical behavior for all time.
 
#10
Prayer cannot be a request made to a theistic deity to act in human history in a particular way.
 
#11
The hope for life after death must be separated forever from the behavior control mentality of reward and punishment. The Church must abandon, therefore, its reliance on guilt as a motivator of behavior.
 
#12
All human beings bear God's image and must be respected for what each person is. Therefore, no external description of one's being, whether based on race, ethnicity, gender or sexual orientation, can properly be used as the basis for either reje
 
#13
I'm not a Christian
 
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« Reply #50 on: April 03, 2013, 11:58:46 PM »

You're taking a rather high church Anglo-Catholic slanted perspective here

As a rather high church Anglo-Catholic, I should hope so, but point taken.
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« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2013, 07:30:06 PM »

I fail to see how anyone could accept #6 and call himself a Christian.  If you can't accept Paul's notion that humanity became tainted with original sin by Adam and that Christ's crucifixion atoned for said sin and allowed for universal salvation, you've rejected the fundamental intellectual premise (and point!) of Christianity.

Or, in other words, Christianity can survive the fall of the Virgin Birth.  Christianity cannot survive the fall of the Resurrection.

The doctrine of original sin isn't a major biblical theme. It developed its central role some time after the New Testament was written (particularly at the Council of Carthage in 418) and is much less significant in Eastern Orthodox theology.
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