Blue states, Red states, and the flow of taxes

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So you don't see any problem with what red states are doing to blue states? State's rights never seems to apply to California.

To repeat: There is no such thing as a "blue stater" or a "red stater". You happen to be a bigot against a non-existent enemy.

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Yes, but he's never really campaigned on that (and certainly not in Kentucky).
People will only find this out if things like the Perkins act go.

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I'm a crazy social conservative now? Jesus... get out into the real world please...

Substitute Republican and Democrat if it makes you feel better.
It's not like Democrats weren't screaming about the south voting against their economic self-interests. Maybe they shouldn't have voted for Bush.

Here in the real world, people don't give a sh**t what consenting adults do behind closed doors, how easy it is to get an abortion, and other stupid culture issues.

Califoria is very pro-environment, which doesn't work so well when the feds ignore our laws.

[KEmperor]

Al attacked for being conservative?  Now I've seen everything!

[Wakie]

The complaint you have is the same complaint southerners had in 1860. I love historical irony.

There was no federal taxation prior to the Civil War.

[KEmperor]

The complaint you have is the same complaint southerners had in 1860. I love historical irony.

There was no federal taxation prior to the Civil War.

Not on income.  But there were certainly federal taxes, how do you think the Federal Government raised money?

[David S]

two comments;
1) My home state of Michigan was one of the losers.
2) No Libertarian state received one dime.

[Blue Rectangle]

The complaint you have is the same complaint southerners had in 1860. I love historical irony.

There was no federal taxation prior to the Civil War.

Not on income.  But there were certainly federal taxes, how do you think the Federal Government raised money?

Tariffs were one major source of revenue and heavily favored the North and hurt the South.  Tariffs are more to blame than slavery in causing the Civil War.

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A lot of this has to do with state's relative power in the Senate. Obviously the smaller the state the more relative power.

New Hampshire (2) , Deleware(1), Nevada(3), and Connecticut (5) are the only screwed states with fewer than 7 congressional districts

The big 3 (CA, NY, TX) are all screwed, and 4th place FL is break-even.

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This link has more information:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxingspending.html

This is the per capita money

State / Tax burder by state / Expentures by state

CA / $6634  /  $5203
TX / $5542 / $5440
NY/ $7546 / $6008
FL / $5946 / $5974

US Average/ $6025 /  $6025 (it's normalized)


California loses over $50 billion a year.
Remember when NY got that $20 billion from the feds because of 9/11? Well, NY was still a donor state that year, even taking that into account.

[David S]

Wll let's see. In Michigan for every dollar we send to  Washington they send us back 86 cents. What a swell deal! If any Michiganians would like a better deal just sent me $1.00 and I'll send you back 90 cents!

Maybe one day people will wake up and realize what a scam government is.

[??????????]

The complaint you have is the same complaint southerners had in 1860. I love historical irony.

There was no federal taxation prior to the Civil War.

Not on income.  But there were certainly federal taxes, how do you think the Federal Government raised money?

Tariffs were one major source of revenue and heavily favored the North and hurt the South.  Tariffs are more to blame than slavery in causing the Civil War.

I was going to say all of that but I didn't want to argue with JFraud.