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WalterMitty
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« on: February 16, 2005, 03:22:01 PM »

i assume it is a vote getting tactic--play on people's fear/prejudices.

that is an effective election strategy.  however, history will not remember them kindly.  60 years from now i dont want to explain to my grandchildren why im still a republican even though they were so intolerant to a segment of the population.

and democrats are only slightly better.  they just  sound more tolerant.  very few dems are willing to  grant homosexuals rights that other americans enjoy.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2005, 03:34:25 PM »
« Edited: February 16, 2005, 03:40:09 PM by opebo »

WalterMitty, you are thinking just as I was before I switched parties.  There are so many ways in which the religious party is the enemy of individual liberty, but the issue of hating and oppressing gays was for me the straw that broke the camel's back.  To compromise with such a bunch of religious intolerants for the sake of a few points lower top tax rate suddenly seemed to me embarrassingly stupid!
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2005, 03:36:03 PM »

Homophobia is gay.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2005, 03:41:38 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2005, 03:49:26 PM »

Mostly because homosexuals (or 70% of them) are ideologically committed Leftists who demand society's recognition of their pleasure, even when that pleasure leads to lethal diseases among their own population.

The way gay people call people with 'traditional' (i.e. ordinary) values "fascists" is particularly disgusting.

But neither of those things are homophobic. So the premise of your question is false.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2005, 03:53:41 PM »

Mostly because homosexuals (or 70% of them) are ideologically committed Leftists who demand society's recognition of their pleasure, even when that pleasure leads to lethal diseases among their own population.

The way gay people call people with 'traditional' (i.e. ordinary) values "fascists" is particularly disgusting.

But neither of those things are homophobic. So the premise of your question is false.

i disagree.

the only reason gays may vote heavily democrat is because the republicans are so hostile to their agenda.

is their something about being gay that makes you more prone to be liberal?  of course not.  the republicans just have no interest in them.  that's all.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2005, 04:07:33 PM »

Mostly because homosexuals (or 70% of them) are ideologically committed Leftists who demand society's recognition of their pleasure, even when that pleasure leads to lethal diseases among their own population.

The way gay people call people with 'traditional' (i.e. ordinary) values "fascists" is particularly disgusting.

But neither of those things are homophobic. So the premise of your question is false.

i disagree.

the only reason gays may vote heavily democrat is because the republicans are so hostile to their agenda.

is their something about being gay that makes you more prone to be liberal?  of course not.  the republicans just have no interest in them.  that's all.

I don't think it's so down pat and simple. But I do think that the way homosexuals force people, not only oh-so sophisticated Manhattanites, but also little baptist grannies in Georgia, to not only recognize, but congratulate and cheerlead homosexuality, is severly alienating to Republicans in general.

That said, I congratulate the 30% of gay people who aren't on the left-wing reservation. Republican, libertarian, unaffiliated, whatever, I salute them.

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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2005, 05:05:34 PM »
« Edited: February 17, 2005, 12:52:52 PM by opebo »

Mostly because homosexuals (or 70% of them) are ideologically committed Leftists who demand society's recognition of their pleasure, even when that pleasure leads to lethal diseases among their own population.

Plenty of breeders are promiscuous or into butt-sex, Storebought.  You're being bigoted.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2005, 06:22:14 PM »

Mostly because homosexuals (or 70% of them) are ideologically committed Leftists who demand society's recognition of their pleasure, even when that pleasure leads to lethal diseases among their own population.

The way gay people call people with 'traditional' (i.e. ordinary) values "fascists" is particularly disgusting.

But neither of those things are homophobic. So the premise of your question is false.

i disagree.

the only reason gays may vote heavily democrat is because the republicans are so hostile to their agenda.

is their something about being gay that makes you more prone to be liberal?  of course not.  the republicans just have no interest in them.  that's all.

Homosexuals tend to have higher incomes, therefore they *should* be voting Republican. But, gays vote on social issues -- where Democrats are light years ahead of Republicans.
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2005, 06:27:41 PM »

Because God hates fags.... unfortunatley many people believe this way and these people gravitate inordinately to the Republican party.  These people vote and some Republicans officials also believe this or they pay them lip service to capture their votes.
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2005, 08:19:13 PM »

Mostly because homosexuals (or 70% of them) are ideologically committed Leftists who demand society's recognition of their pleasure, even when that pleasure leads to lethal diseases among their own population.

The way gay people call people with 'traditional' (i.e. ordinary) values "fascists" is particularly disgusting.

But neither of those things are homophobic. So the premise of your question is false.

Yeah, I agree with you. So do most Americans, the problem is that the far-religious right will not shut up long enough for them mainstream to tell the homosexual comminity to tone it down or else. The religious right's automatic and immeadiate condemning leads people to be wary of them more than those they accuse.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2005, 08:25:11 PM »

Because it helps get the Fundies to the polls to vote for them.
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2005, 08:25:47 PM »

I'm not hostile to gays, just the militant, screw anyone, anytime crowd of radicals.  The 80% of gays who are radicals like this need to shut down the wingnuts if they ever want rights.
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2005, 08:26:05 PM »

The Republican party is hostile to the radical gay political agenda, not gays per se.

Just as the party opposes the radical feminist agenda, and this does not mean that it is hostile to women.

We need to stop allowing the most radical and self-serving fringe of interest groups define the whole group.

Surely, there are some Republicans (as well as some Democrats) who are hostile to homosexual behavior.  That is their right, like it or not.  But defense of traditional values is not necessarily hostility to gays, just as defense of traditional marriage is not hostility to women.
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2005, 09:41:56 PM »

Many Republicans are hostile to gays because they (Republicans) feel that the existence of homosexuality goes against traditional values.

Of course, from a Democratic perspective, Republicans are less tolerant of any group outside the mainstream.
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2005, 09:43:31 PM »

I'm hostile to gays because I hate them, they make me sick, and I don't want to be around them.
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2005, 10:17:51 PM »

what exactly is this radical gay agenda? To be treated with equality?
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2005, 10:19:15 PM »

Why the hell should I have to treat gay people with "equality?"
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2005, 10:23:25 PM »

the same reason you should have to treat blacks that way.
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2005, 10:24:02 PM »

what exactly is this radical gay agenda? To be treated with equality?

that's pretty much it....... Wink 
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« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2005, 10:25:28 PM »

the same reason you should have to treat blacks that way.

Why the hell should I have to treat blacks with "equality?"
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« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2005, 10:28:23 PM »

Because peopel should not have harder lives because of bigoted morons like you.
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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2005, 10:28:34 PM »

the same reason you should have to treat blacks that way.

Why the hell should I have to treat blacks with "equality?"

well, you don't really have to.  of course, you can walk into a black neighborhood on your lonesome and call them 'ns' if you'd like -no one is going to stop you.  or better yet, don the white robes of the Ku Klux Klan and burn a cross amongst a crowd of black people.  Just don't come running and crying because they beat the living sh**t out of you.  deal? 
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« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2005, 10:29:25 PM »

the same reason you should have to treat blacks that way.

Why the hell should I have to treat blacks with "equality?"

What about treating people as people and equally without giving a crap if they are straight or gay, white or black, etc?Huh/
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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2005, 10:31:52 PM »

the same reason you should have to treat blacks that way.

Why the hell should I have to treat blacks with "equality?"

What about treating people as people and equally without giving a crap if they are straight or gay, white or black, etc?Huh/

blasphemy! Wink
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