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ChrisFromNJ
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« on: February 28, 2013, 04:15:12 pm »

Has there been any municipality, or preferably, precinct-level data released by the NJ Division of Elections for the 2012 presidential elections? I have combed their website, and I have been unable to find anything. It's almost March, and this hasn't been released yet?
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2013, 04:23:00 pm »

I definitely saw the data back in December or so. Not sure where. I'll see if I can dig it up.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 12:27:28 am »

Ive called em they said it will be up this week but thats slow. Hudson, Bergen, Morris, Camden and Somerset have theirs up.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 12:01:12 pm »

Ive called em they said it will be up this week but thats slow. Hudson, Bergen, Morris, Camden and Somerset have theirs up.

Hmm... Maybe I only saw the data for one county or something. Thanks for calling!
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 07:39:19 pm »

Ive called em they said it will be up this week but thats slow. Hudson, Bergen, Morris, Camden and Somerset have theirs up.

Thanks for the heads up!
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 01:12:24 am »

http://www.njelections.org/election-information-archive-2012.html#mun

Finally up!
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2013, 05:25:25 pm »
« Edited: April 01, 2013, 05:34:28 pm by johnbuterbaugh »


Do with this what you will.
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2013, 09:58:44 am »
« Edited: April 03, 2013, 10:11:44 am by homelycooking »

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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2013, 10:39:16 am »

Nutley swung to Obama this time?  Nice.
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2013, 11:16:12 am »
« Edited: April 03, 2013, 11:28:01 am by Benj »


Clear move to Obama in all the white lower-middle class/Italian towns in that area. Lyndhurst, North Arlington, Nutley, Carlstadt, Hasbrouck Heights, etc. all went McCain -> Obama.
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2013, 02:15:50 pm »


Clear move to Obama in all the white lower-middle class/Italian towns in that area. Lyndhurst, North Arlington, Nutley, Carlstadt, Hasbrouck Heights, etc. all went McCain -> Obama.

Dis those whites that you mention voted for Obama or was it hispanics there?
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2013, 02:51:44 pm »


Clear move to Obama in all the white lower-middle class/Italian towns in that area. Lyndhurst, North Arlington, Nutley, Carlstadt, Hasbrouck Heights, etc. all went McCain -> Obama.

Dis those whites that you mention voted for Obama or was it hispanics there?

Not that many Hispanics in any of those towns. Some, but not that many (10-18%, depending on the town). I mean, I'm sure they made the difference between voting for Obama or Romney in some places since the margins were very small, but Hispanics are not a major political force in that area. Yet, anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2013, 05:35:42 pm »


Clear move to Obama in all the white lower-middle class/Italian towns in that area. Lyndhurst, North Arlington, Nutley, Carlstadt, Hasbrouck Heights, etc. all went McCain -> Obama.

Nutley is definitely a notch or two richer than "lower middle-class".  Heck, that whole area is probably just straight-up middle class by the standards of the country at large, and Nutley is definitely the wealthiest of all those towns.

I do wonder to what extent the Hispanic percentage there has increased in the past several years; they have historically been very white but that may be changing.
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2013, 07:48:53 pm »
« Edited: April 03, 2013, 07:53:47 pm by Benj »


Clear move to Obama in all the white lower-middle class/Italian towns in that area. Lyndhurst, North Arlington, Nutley, Carlstadt, Hasbrouck Heights, etc. all went McCain -> Obama.

Nutley is definitely a notch or two richer than "lower middle-class".  Heck, that whole area is probably just straight-up middle class by the standards of the country at large, and Nutley is definitely the wealthiest of all those towns.

I do wonder to what extent the Hispanic percentage there has increased in the past several years; they have historically been very white but that may be changing.

Well, it's a class issue more than an income issue, but you get the point. Hasbrouck Heights is also pretty wealthy. Regardless, the area is clearly different in kind from other heavily white areas like northern Bergen/Passaic or far western Essex (which, among other things, are more monolithic in their wealth).

Also, while increases in the Hispanic population could explain things, all of these towns trended Republican in 2008. Some, like North Arlington, even swung towards McCain. It seems unlikely that the Hispanic population controlled trends in 2012 but not in 2008.
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2013, 08:23:57 pm »


Clear move to Obama in all the white lower-middle class/Italian towns in that area. Lyndhurst, North Arlington, Nutley, Carlstadt, Hasbrouck Heights, etc. all went McCain -> Obama.

Nutley is definitely a notch or two richer than "lower middle-class".  Heck, that whole area is probably just straight-up middle class by the standards of the country at large, and Nutley is definitely the wealthiest of all those towns.

I do wonder to what extent the Hispanic percentage there has increased in the past several years; they have historically been very white but that may be changing.

Well, it's a class issue more than an income issue, but you get the point. Hasbrouck Heights is also pretty wealthy. Regardless, the area is clearly different in kind from other heavily white areas like northern Bergen/Passaic or far western Essex (which, among other things, are more monolithic in their wealth).

Also, while increases in the Hispanic population could explain things, all of these towns trended Republican in 2008. Some, like North Arlington, even swung towards McCain. It seems unlikely that the Hispanic population controlled trends in 2012 but not in 2008.

So the blue collar Italians in those towns favored Obama?
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2013, 12:05:22 am »

Camden was 96.8% for Obama.  It's a hellish piece of urban decay, but still... wow. 
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2013, 09:35:09 pm »

Manville went for Obama too after going for McCain 2008...for some reason the white-working class towns in the northeast swung Democratic. Look at Scranton, Staten Island, parts of Philly and Providence.
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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2013, 09:47:54 pm »

Camden was 96.8% for Obama.  It's a hellish piece of urban decay, but still... wow. 

Obama hit 98.5% in East Orange! Romney was outvoted there 75-1.
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2013, 12:10:18 am »

Im guessing it was three things:

1) Hurricane Sandy: That swung a lot of NJ and NY to Obama

2) White Democrats coming home: Obama was an incumbent so the racial issues were less salient this time

3) Class: Obama ran a more populist campaign in 2012 and Romney ran a more upper-crust campaign. While parts of NE Essex and SW Bergen swung to Obama, Madison and Morris Plains went from Obama to Romney, and Obama dropped from a double-digit percentage win in Summit to a razor-thin win.

Thoughts?
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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2013, 12:59:35 pm »

basically Romney lost the whole Rt 1 corridor(Woodbridge(mall area) to Trenton), whole Rt 1&9(Fairview by GWB Bridge) to Woodbridge(Mall area)(Middlesex County) corridor, entire(ok mostly) Palisades Parkway and 9W corridor(Fort Lee by GWB Bridge up to NY State Line), mostly entire I-295 corridor(Trenton down to Delaware Memorial Bridge, and Garden State Parkway(Exit 166 in Hillsdale to Exit 117 in Matawan.)
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2013, 03:19:32 pm »

Camden was 96.8% for Obama.  It's a hellish piece of urban decay, but still... wow. 

Obama hit 98.5% in East Orange! Romney was outvoted there 75-1.

East Orange was 65% Republican in 1948, in sharp contrast. But then again, it was 90% white back then.
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2013, 05:58:06 pm »

Could have left off that Romney lost Rt 1&9, Rt 1, and I-295 corridor and just said NJ Turnpike Corridor. What did Romney win 5 towns in the NJ Turnpike Corridor?
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