2004 Democratic Primary

[© tweed]

How many Inderpendents are in office?

1-Bernie Sanders of vermont, who is a socialist.

[DarthKosh]

How many Inderpendents are in office?

1-Bernie Sanders of vermont, who is a socialist.

That tells you alot about Vermont.

[© tweed]

How many Inderpendents are in office?

1-Bernie Sanders of vermont, who is a socialist.

That tells you alot about Vermont.

Why's that?  You think vermont is a commie hideout?

[NHPolitico]

How many Inderpendents are in office?

1-Bernie Sanders of vermont, who is a socialist.

That tells you alot about Vermont.

Why's that?  You think vermont is a commie hideout?

They call it social justice, not communism/socialism.

[12th Doctor]

How many Inderpendents are in office?

1-Bernie Sanders of vermont, who is a socialist.

That tells you alot about Vermont.

Why's that?  You think vermont is a commie hideout?

They call it social justice, not communism/socialism.

A rose by any other name....

[jravnsbo]

VT- bernie sanders socialist

Sen Leahy, next best thing to Bernie

Sen Jumping Jim Jeffords, Independant to give Dem power


Civil union laws

Howard Dean

enough said about VT and its lefties

[© tweed]

VT- bernie sanders socialist

Sen Leahy, next best thing to Bernie

Sen Jumping Jim Jeffords, Independant to give Dem power


Civil union laws

Howard Dean

enough said about VT and its lefties

How is Jeffords a lefty?  He is an anti-GOP centrist libertarian.  McCain hates his own party too, and he isn't a lefty.

[jravnsbo]

First off Mccain does not hate his party.  That is a bit over the top.  Plus he has a great convservative voting record.  He disagrees with them ona  few issues which the press loves to trumpet but not on a great majority of them.

Jeffords has some extreme environmental views for one and that is one of the reasons he switched to get control of that committee, when GOP didn't give it to him he was fuming.  

VT- bernie sanders socialist

Sen Leahy, next best thing to Bernie

Sen Jumping Jim Jeffords, Independant to give Dem power


Civil union laws

Howard Dean

enough said about VT and its lefties

How is Jeffords a lefty?  He is an anti-GOP centrist libertarian.  McCain hates his own party too, and he isn't a lefty.

[ABD]

Labour would be unwise to remove Tony Blair.  The UK is essentially a small-c conservative country.  Blair is the face of Labour acceptability and electability.  Remove Blair and Labour will make it that much harder for itself.

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Er....I've been called far worse than a "rightist" (and although I am a tribal party "true believer", I would definitely describe myself as centre-right in Australian politics, and saw myself as a fairly moderate  Tory in the UK).  "Leftie" ain't exactly a damning term.  And  I seem to recall a few people looking benignly on Mark Latham's fairly bald statements, listed on this site shortly after he became leader.... about how Aussies are outspoken in a way only we can be.... : )

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[RhodeRage]

Wow!  Realpolitic has my total respect as an international observer.  Anyone who can take interest in THAT much politics is good in my books

[© tweed]

Wow!  Realpolitic has my total respect as an international observer.  Anyone who can take interest in THAT much politics is good in my books

And he isn't even 20 years old yet.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Factory New Orders at 54 year high!

The Institute for Supply Management (ISM) said its new orders index jumped to 77.6, the highest level since 80.3 in July 1950, from 73.7 in November.

The ISM index of manufacturing activity jumped to 66.2 from 62.8 in November. Economists, on average, expected an ISM index of 61, the highest since 69.9 in December 1983 and has been above 50, a number that indicates expansion in the sector, for six straight months.

The ISM's employment index rose to 55.5 from 51 in November, marking the second straight month above 50, following 37 months below that mark. That raises the chances that December saw the first gain in manufacturing payrolls since July 2000.

http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/02/news/economy/ism/index.htm

[afleitch]

Blair may not be universally popular, that is true, but he is far far more popular (and populist) than Michael Howard. Even with a low turn out in 2005/06, Labour are a shoe in. What we do have is a 'Blair Effect'. In the 1980's as Thatcher herself once admitted to a backbencher, people voted for her, rather than for the party, or even for their own MP. This same effect is apparent with Blair, leader for 10 years, Prime Minister for 7, people are comfortable with him, especially when faced with the alternatives.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

A bit scary though

[© tweed]

A bit scary though

How old are you?

[Gustaf]

Wow!  Realpolitic has my total respect as an international observer.  Anyone who can take interest in THAT much politics is good in my books

He even read up on Finnish and Swedish politics recently...

Damn! He will soon know more about that than I do!

[© tweed]

Wow!  Realpolitic has my total respect as an international observer.  Anyone who can take interest in THAT much politics is good in my books

He even read up on Finnish and Swedish politics recently...

Damn! He will soon know more about that than I do!

He knows just as much or more about American politics than most Americans at the forum do.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Construction spending at ALL TIME HIGH for 5th straight month!

Construction spending jumped 1.2 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of $934.5 billion in the month from an upwardly revised $923.8 billion in October, the Commerce Department said. Analysts polled by Reuters were expecting a 0.5 percent increase.

It was the fifth month in a row in which total construction spending hit a new high. Total private construction, total public construction, private residential construction and state and local construction all climbed to fresh records.

http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/05/news/economy/construction.reut/index.htm

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I'm under 20. No more information will be given

And I don't think that knowing more about U.S politics than PD is much of an achievment

[English]

I can't either. But it's a possibility.

Isn't the NDP popular in Nova Scotia?  

I understand the NDP are popular in Halifax NS, but not so elsewhere in Nova Scotia, except perhaps Sydney. Personally I love Nova Scotia, it suffers high unemployment especially in Cape Breton however the people are incredibly friendly. Nova Scotia is one of the few places were the Tories still do fairly well. The NDP's best province is Saskatchewan. Largely due to the socialist voting farmers.

[English]

I agree, everything points to another Labour win in 2005. Labour are unpopular, but not so unpopular that people would kick them out in favour of the most hated politician of the 1990's! (Howard).

[Peter]

Been away for a while, so just catching up:

What I meant by good job with reference to Peter Hain is that (at the time) the EU Constitution looked a rather dangerous prospect for Britain, and therefore Peter Hain would not be viable as he negoitiated it on the UKs behalf.

I see Milburn as the longer term successor to Blair, however, I do wonder whether Labour could elect another Blairite. Brown is still waiting in the shadows, and if anything were to happen to Blair (politically or health), then he would take over. I dont see Estelle Morris as a viable candidate, especially after the A-levels fiasco (I had to live thro' that, didnt really endear me to her). Stephen Twigg is an intereting thought, although I think the country may need twenty more years to be ready for a gay PM (not that is a good thing).

Whoever has been reading the Mail ought to stop buying it, it just encourages the right wing lunatics to print more of their crap.

[English]

Twigg hardly features at all. I can't imagine him being very popular. Morris and Milburn made a hash of their departments so would be out of the running. Robin Cook looks like a garden knome and Blunkett is too authoritarian. There's only Brown who looks like leader material.

[opebo]

Speaking of statistics that may effect the election - check out the unemployement rate by state and its change over the year:
http://www.bls.gov/web/laumstch.htm

I think this has a strong effect on certain swing states, though all states may be so improved by November it won't matter.

[Michael Z]

"Leftie" ain't exactly a damning term.

Sorry, I'll admit I am quite sensitive about the term. It just reminds me of when The Sun were at their most slanderous. More of a connotation thing.